4.0: Who wins each of the 19 40+ Sectionals?

CaptainCal

New User
Let’s keep this clean to not lose another one. We are all grownups and play USTA for many reasons. Who wins each section? Looks like some really tough sections this year.

Florida looks really deep with some single UTRs close to 9

Colorado might be a favorite if they make it

Do we have a back to back winner

Southern CA has some 7.8-8.7 UTRs. Impressive

The Carolina’s are also building something big

Texas has 4 teams that can take the crown

Who does everyone have from each section?
 

J_R_B

Hall of Fame
Middle States will be very strong again. The 1-4 format will only help that team as they are always very deep with double players.
 

J_R_B

Hall of Fame
The winter 18 plus 4.0 male team?
No, the Philly district team that won nationals last year. The guy has a conveyor belt of players moving up and down from 4.5 every year and slightly shady inside connections on the self-rating appeals committee, so he can reload every year despite MU/BU rules. He doesn't look for the egregiously out of level singles ringers (which are harder to find for 40+ anyway), but can put together a roster of 25 4.0/4.5 borderline guys who are typically very good at doubles, so depth at doubles is their strength and the 4th doubles court will only serve to help them.
 

naylor73

Rookie
No, the Philly district team that won nationals last year. The guy has a conveyor belt of players moving up and down from 4.5 every year and slightly shady inside connections on the self-rating appeals committee, so he can reload every year despite MU/BU rules. He doesn't look for the egregiously out of level singles ringers (which are harder to find for 40+ anyway), but can put together a roster of 25 4.0/4.5 borderline guys who are typically very good at doubles, so depth at doubles is their strength and the 4th doubles court will only serve to help them.
Is this the team that won nationals yet only had 3 players move up to 4.5? That sounds like we’re playing by a different rating scale as we lost at sectionals and had 9 guys move up. Gotta love it
 

J_R_B

Hall of Fame
Is this the team that won nationals yet only had 3 players move up to 4.5? That sounds like we’re playing by a different rating scale as we lost at sectionals and had 9 guys move up. Gotta love it
This is a function of their roster construction. They typically don't go for the laughably out of level ringers but rather a full roster of 25 guys who are borderline 4.0/4.5, so because they have so many guys right on the border, there is a lot of fluctuation in the number of guys who get bumped. They have had years with 11 or 12 bumps, too.
 

TennisOTM

Professional
Utah should be a strong contdender Intermountain. Last year Utah finished second to Colorado, and that Utah team is intact and improved - I don't think they had any bump-ups and have added some new high-end guys. A bit early to tell though, the season has not even started yet and Sectionals are not until September.
 

naylor73

Rookie
Looks like as promised, Dallas whipped up on their competition today with their roster full of average 4.0 players winning all but 9 games in 4 of their first round matches and an odd 1-1 loss on line 2 doubles just to keep the game winning percentage below 90%.

Their second round was a bit tougher it seems as they lost line 1 doubles to a good team but won the remainder of the lines fairly easily.
 

silverwyvern4

Semi-Pro
Looks like as promised, Dallas whipped up on their competition today with their roster full of average 4.0 players winning all but 9 games in 4 of their first round matches and an odd 1-1 loss on line 2 doubles just to keep the game winning percentage below 90%.

Their second round was a bit tougher it seems as they lost line 1 doubles to a good team but won the remainder of the lines fairly easily.
Are you on the Naylor's Run Philadelphia 40+ 4.0 team?
 

CaptainCal

New User
Looks like as promised, Dallas whipped up on their competition today with their roster full of average 4.0 players winning all but 9 games in 4 of their first round matches and an odd 1-1 loss on line 2 doubles just to keep the game winning percentage below 90%.

Their second round was a bit tougher it seems as they lost line 1 doubles to a good team but won the remainder of the lines fairly easily.
Thanks for the post and positive words Naylor. It was a good tough weekend. SA was the toughest team. Came down to singles. 3-2. Everyone took Waco for granted and they grinded 3-2 wins all the way through. Corpus defaulted two lines and really most players on that team were 3.5. They came with 7 guys total and had a heat injury along the way. The same for Valley and Fort Worth. They each played 3.5 players as many top guys didn’t come. That was some great captain work by Waco and he did a great job in the other flight. The finals would have been closer if Austin or Houston made it. We got pretty lucky in this one. We had losses where one guy just couldn’t handle the pressure. That was a really good team and one of our guys 62+ years of age just couldn’t handle the heat or power of the other team. The other losses were simply bad matchups for our guys. Overall great lineups and we guessed right. We look forward to representing Texas.
 

Roforot

Hall of Fame
Congratulations on the wins. Were you able to record any match play? Or do you have links to other vids. I confess Im curious to see if you guys look like ex d1 players or typical but strong 4.0s.
 

naylor73

Rookie
Their line 1 team vs SA were very strong for 4.0 players, with the exception of CP line calls lol. Singles was a baseline slicer/lobber grinder that wore out the SA singles player. They’re a solid team.
 

CaptainCal

New User
Congratulations on the wins. Were you able to record any match play? Or do you have links to other vids. I confess Im curious to see if you guys look like ex d1 players or typical but strong 4.0s.
A couple people filmed on phones but none from our team. We don’t have any college players from any level on this team unless you count basketball and soccer. The SA team had a guy that played at Kstate but he was hurt so didn t play. That could have been the difference in our match from them losing to winning. We just have some crafty players that can adjust to different styles and lucky with our matchups. We didn’t see anyone really out of level from any of the ten teams we watched. I would say you had three types of players this go around. You had 24 top tier 4.0 players from the total of 10 teams. You had below average to average 4.0 players. You had mid 3.5 players playing up.
 
Thanks for the post and positive words Naylor. It was a good tough weekend. SA was the toughest team. Came down to singles. 3-2. Everyone took Waco for granted and they grinded 3-2 wins all the way through. Corpus defaulted two lines and really most players on that team were 3.5. They came with 7 guys total and had a heat injury along the way. The same for Valley and Fort Worth. They each played 3.5 players as many top guys didn’t come. That was some great captain work by Waco and he did a great job in the other flight. The finals would have been closer if Austin or Houston made it. We got pretty lucky in this one. We had losses where one guy just couldn’t handle the pressure. That was a really good team and one of our guys 62+ years of age just couldn’t handle the heat or power of the other team. The other losses were simply bad matchups for our guys. Overall great lineups and we guessed right. We look forward to representing Texas.
I can't believe Austin didn't punch their way through on the other flight, good guys, solid hitters, and certainly on the more serious side, haha, without quite the dedication to strategy shall we say as your team haha.
 
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dode

Rookie
A couple people filmed on phones but none from our team. We don’t have any college players from any level on this team unless you count basketball and soccer. The SA team had a guy that played at Kstate but he was hurt so didn t play. That could have been the difference in our match from them losing to winning. We just have some crafty players that can adjust to different styles and lucky with our matchups. We didn’t see anyone really out of level from any of the ten teams we watched. I would say you had three types of players this go around. You had 24 top tier 4.0 players from the total of 10 teams. You had below average to average 4.0 players. You had mid 3.5 players playing up.

K-state hasn't had men's tennis since the mid 80s. I just went and looked at the roster and if it is CS you are talking about, a woman played tennis there by that name in the 90s and I actually practiced against her a decent amount. If it is someone else, I would be interested to know who...
 

Roforot

Hall of Fame
So captain is the next stop nationals? Where and when? I don’t know anyone playing at that stage so I am hoping to follow your teams progress.

As for sectionals, arr you allowed to share any strategies? The one time I went it turned into ok who is less injured and not cramping, go youre in the lineup!
 

naylor73

Rookie
I can't believe Austin didn't punch their way through on the other flight, good guys, solid hitters, and certainly on the more serious side, haha, without quite the dedication to strategy shall we say as your team haha.
My guess is they didn’t take Waco seriously and didn’t put out their best lineup or their best players just weren’t available for that Friday early match.
 

CaptainCal

New User
So captain is the next stop nationals? Where and when? I don’t know anyone playing at that stage so I am hoping to follow your teams progress.

As for sectionals, arr you allowed to share any strategies? The one time I went it turned into ok who is less injured and not cramping, go youre in the lineup!
Yes sir. I can't share strategies but we had 50-60 hours of research and data of each team at sectionals. We had some luck along the way and many teams missed some of the better players. Some data was good and some was bad based on this. I will say our team was the most prepared. All the data was shared with our players the day before each match. We meet and go over plan and other teams players. We had some mishaps, but overall luck was on our side along the way. I will share more in depth after nationals once this is all done. I will say we are still behind the really good captains. I will say someone on here has an even better system and data that they have built. This does become an obsession if you are not careful. :)
 

naylor73

Rookie
I disagree with your claim that your team was the most prepared. Injuries to 2 key players drastically hurt SA chances. They never had yalls depth, too many guys got bumped after pissing off usta last year and fighting amongst local captains broke up the super team possibility early on. Your roster depth won you sectionals.
 

CaptainCal

New User
I disagree with your claim that your team was the most prepared. Injuries to 2 key players drastically hurt SA chances. They never had yalls depth, too many guys got bumped after pissing off usta last year and fighting amongst local captains broke up the super team possibility early on. Your roster depth won you sectionals.
I completely agree, however we missed 2 of our top guys in that match as well. 3-2 was a great match. I still think it would have been 3-2 if we both had our top 2 guys. One guy chose the French Open which I can't blame him for. Every team we played had injuries, including ourselves. I do think we got lucky to say the least. We will have to be more prepared for the next matches or we stand no chance.
 
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