4 yr old serve and volley video never gets old

Devil_dog

Hall of Fame
Put her on the WTA tour! She'll befuddle at least half the top 100 with her serve and volley technique. The other half will lose to her cuteness. :)
 

Alchemy-Z

Hall of Fame
I just hope while getting a great tennis game she is also having an enjoyable childhood. Their is this maybe 11/12 year old girl that practices with her dad at our local courts often - also Asian (and I only mention that because it seems to be a little different in parental culture) She practices hard and we have heard the Dad yell ( in another language ) throw his racquet in anger at the fence etc... once or twice I have seen him with a full hopper of balls kick it over grab his bag get in his car an leave her. She then picked up all the balls puts them in the hopper - grabs all her stuff and starts walking home -

Twice during this after he left we walked over to ask if she was ok and she not speaking just nods and continues to pick up balls
I have no idea how far she lives from the courts and have offered a ride once when I past her walking while I was on my way home - which of course she declined.

As a father with a daughter it kinda breaks my heart to witness a relationship like that cause while it may not be physical abuse it might be worse I don't know. So anytime I see these super young kids with near adult level talents (be it sports/music etc) I just get a pit in my stomach and wonder...I mean who knows maybe one day she will be a multi slam champion with millions of dollars but at what cost.

She is good - I've seen her hit with 4.5 guys and hang and I have to imagine she has some passion for it but still it's uncomfortable to witness
 

NuBas

Legend
I just hope while getting a great tennis game she is also having an enjoyable childhood. Their is this maybe 11/12 year old girl that practices with her dad at our local courts often - also Asian (and I only mention that because it seems to be a little different in parental culture) She practices hard and we have heard the Dad yell ( in another language ) throw his racquet in anger at the fence etc... once or twice I have seen him with a full hopper of balls kick it over grab his bag get in his car an leave her. She then picked up all the balls puts them in the hopper - grabs all her stuff and starts walking home -

Twice during this after he left we walked over to ask if she was ok and she not speaking just nods and continues to pick up balls
I have no idea how far she lives from the courts and have offered a ride once when I past her walking while I was on my way home - which of course she declined.

As a father with a daughter it kinda breaks my heart to witness a relationship like that cause while it may not be physical abuse it might be worse I don't know. So anytime I see these super young kids with near adult level talents (be it sports/music etc) I just get a pit in my stomach and wonder...I mean who knows maybe one day she will be a multi slam champion with millions of dollars but at what cost.

She is good - I've seen her hit with 4.5 guys and hang and I have to imagine she has some passion for it but still it's uncomfortable to witness
Way to turn a feel good story into your personal rant about something that you are only perceiving on the outside without knowledge as you mentioned about cultural differences and their life.
 

GuyClinch

Legend
Way to turn a feel good story into your personal rant about something that you are only perceiving on the outside without knowledge as you mentioned about cultural differences and their life.
This.

Kids might actually like a kid's game! Shocking Truth.
 

meltphace 6

Hall of Fame
I just hope while getting a great tennis game she is also having an enjoyable childhood.
Please don't generalise. Below is a vid of my son (5 y/o). We play tennis for about 2-3 hours/week (a bit less in winter because we don't play indoors). The weird thing is that when we play in the park parents who are mostly busy with their smartphones while drinking latte macchiato seem to suggest that the kid is drilled endlessly by his freak tennis dad. Reality is that we only play when he asks me to (definitely too early for specialization so I try not to play too much with him which is not easy because we both enjoy tennis). I'll help him develop decent fundamentals and whatever he'll do with it is up to him (no money will be spent on coaching). The coolest thing is that I have a good hitting partner in my son now (yes, I enjoy red court tennis, too).

 
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Alchemy-Z

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Please don't generalise. Below is a vid of my son (5 y/o). We play tennis for about 2-3 hours/week (a bit less in winter because we don't play indoors). The weird thing is that when we play in the park parents who are mostly busy with their smartphones while drinking latte macchiato seem to suggest that the kid is drilled endlessly by his freak tennis dad. Reality is that we only play when he asks me to (definitely too early for specialization so I try not to play too much with him which is not easy because we both enjoy tennis). I'll help him develop decent fundamentals and whatever he'll do with it is up to him (no money will be spent on coaching). The coolest thing is that I have a good hitting partner in my son now (yes, I enjoy red court tennis, too).

Well as I stated I hope she is enjoying it as well - nothing wrong with a healthy love for the game and if your kid is passionate about something encouraging that is a great thing - I maybe came off a little judgmental but as someone who's been a player/coach and ref of local recreation sports for 15 years I can tell you I have run into a good amount of (Over the top ) parents who have turned a fun character building sport into a future therapy session for their kids.

So I apologize for the generalization

and I am all for parents that want to play with their kids instead of sipping coffee and surfing facebook so good on you
 

Holliman

Rookie
I just hope while getting a great tennis game she is also having an enjoyable childhood. Their is this maybe 11/12 year old girl that practices with her dad at our local courts often - also Asian (and I only mention that because it seems to be a little different in parental culture) She practices hard and we have heard the Dad yell ( in another language ) throw his racquet in anger at the fence etc... once or twice I have seen him with a full hopper of balls kick it over grab his bag get in his car an leave her. She then picked up all the balls puts them in the hopper - grabs all her stuff and starts walking home -

Twice during this after he left we walked over to ask if she was ok and she not speaking just nods and continues to pick up balls
I have no idea how far she lives from the courts and have offered a ride once when I past her walking while I was on my way home - which of course she declined.

As a father with a daughter it kinda breaks my heart to witness a relationship like that cause while it may not be physical abuse it might be worse I don't know. So anytime I see these super young kids with near adult level talents (be it sports/music etc) I just get a pit in my stomach and wonder...I mean who knows maybe one day she will be a multi slam champion with millions of dollars but at what cost.

She is good - I've seen her hit with 4.5 guys and hang and I have to imagine she has some passion for it but still it's uncomfortable to witness
I'm glad I wasn't there to witness that.
 

kiteboard

Banned
She's a little killer. Good to see.

Who says kids can't learn to hit a one handed back hand? This girl can be a slam winner with her speed, attitude, strokes, confidence, deadly nature. Have never seen any kid, let alone a girl, at this level so soon. Sampras was closest.
 
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Well as I stated I hope she is enjoying it as well - nothing wrong with a healthy love for the game and if your kid is passionate about something encouraging that is a great thing - I maybe came off a little judgmental but as someone who's been a player/coach and ref of local recreation sports for 15 years I can tell you I have run into a good amount of (Over the top ) parents who have turned a fun character building sport into a future therapy session for their kids.

So I apologize for the generalization

and I am all for parents that want to play with their kids instead of sipping coffee and surfing facebook so good on you
Making your daughter walk home and berating her (in public) because of performance in a practice session: Not cool...IN ANY CULTURE.
 

rogerroger917

Hall of Fame
Shows you how vested tennis parents are. Rest of you sit down and shut up when it involves junior tennis. Unless you are in it like the tennis parents. Lol. Ha ha...
 

Curious

Legend
Federer says his dad used to leave him at the courts when he threw tantrums and drive home and he had to go back home using public transport that took a few hours to get home. But I guess that was a bit different, he warned him a few times and said if he continued the same way he would leave him and go home. Maybe that's more of a firm, decisive attitude/parenting.
 

kaninfaan

Rookie
It's pretty normal in a lot of cultures. I beg to differ. Plus kids are not dolls. They are not that fragile.
Even if your statement is right; "It's pretty normal in a lot of cultures", that does NOT mean that it's a good thing.
And good things are better than normal things.
 

rogerroger917

Hall of Fame
Even if your statement is right; "It's pretty normal in a lot of cultures", that does NOT mean that it's a good thing.
And good things are better than normal things.
I'm just saying other people have different priorities. And different ways of raising the kids. Not better or worse. Just different.
 

kaninfaan

Rookie
I'm just saying other people have different priorities. And different ways of raising the kids. Not better or worse. Just different.
No. You were defending bad parental behaviour that no child should have to suffer.
And the "just different"-illness that is spreading in the world is idiotic Objectivism that adult humans should be able to rise above.
 

rogerroger917

Hall of Fame
No. You were defending bad parental behaviour that no child should have to suffer.
And the "just different"-illness that is spreading in the world is idiotic Objectivism that adult humans should be able to rise above.
Yes and you know the exact circumstances of the encounter. You know it All? Lmao. Do not impose your judgement on things you do not know. I'm pretty certain if I watch you for 10min I can find something wrong with you without any insight into you. But that would be making assumptions and wrong. Like you are doing.
 

rogerroger917

Hall of Fame
No. You were defending bad parental behaviour that no child should have to suffer.
And the "just different"-illness that is spreading in the world is idiotic Objectivism that adult humans should be able to rise above.
Did your self help books tell you exactly how to raise a kid? Trophy for losing? It's ok to not try?
 

Dartagnan64

G.O.A.T.
OK This all makes me realize i started tennis way too old. Sigh. I actually wish I had a dad that was more interested in teaching me stuff like this than in making money.
 

SystemicAnomaly

Talk Tennis Guru
The OP video showed us 4-yr old Maki in 2015. Where is 6-yr old Maki? Playing the ITF circuit in Japan/Asia?

Nice agressive game she has.. she doesn't actually happen to be from North Korea, does she?
Her name appears to me to be Japanese, not Korean.
 
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