5 years since the last time

Lew II

Lew II

G.O.A.T.
In the next RG it will be 5 years since the last time Djokovic lost a Grand Slam match to any of the Big4.


Since then, 12 consecutive wins for Djokovic:

WI14 F b. Federer 6-7(7) 6-4 7-6(4) 5-7 6-4
UO14 QF b. Murray 7-6(1) 6-7(1) 6-2 6-4
AO15 F b. Murray 7-6(5) 6-7(4) 6-3 6-0
RG15 QF b. Nadal 7-5 6-3 6-1
RG15 SF b. Murray 6-3 6-3 5-7 5-7 6-1
WI15 F b. Federer 7-6(1) 6-7(10) 6-4 6-3
UO15 F b. Federer 6-4 5-7 6-4 6-4
AO16 SF b. Federer 6-1 6-2 3-6 6-3
AO16 F b. Murray 6-1 7-5 7-6(3)
RG16 F b. Murray 3-6 6-1 6-2 6-4
WI18 SF b. Nadal 6-4 3-6 7-6(9) 3-6 10-8
AO19 F b. Nadal 6-3 6-2 6-3
 
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Well as we can clearly see you need to beat more than Big4 to win RG. Tennis isnt boxing, you need to win 7 matches in a row to win a slam. You need to beat the field, not only Big4.

Edit: Sorry, got it wrong, thought the the thread was about RG only. Definetly impressive results by Djoker.
 
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TearTheRoofOff said:
Nope. Only the biggest matches with the biggest stakes count. Apparently.
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After all these unfair-claims regarding 2 HC slams and only one clay, whats next? Maybe we should change the format of the slams to how it is in boxing and chess? The title holder only plays one person who has to qualify to play a title match? :-D
 
Lew II said:
In the next RG it will be 5 years since the last time Djokovic lost a Grand Slam match to any of the Big4.


Since then, 12 consecutive wins for Djokovic:

WI14 F b. Federer 6-7(7) 6-4 7-6(4) 5-7 6-4
UO14 QF b. Murray 7-6(1) 6-7(1) 6-2 6-4
AO15 F b. Murray 7-6(5) 6-7(4) 6-3 6-0
RG15 QF b. Nadal 7-5 6-3 6-1
RG15 SF b. Murray 6-3 6-3 5-7 5-7 6-1
WI15 F b. Federer 7-6(1) 6-7(10) 6-4 6-3
UO15 F b. Federer 6-4 5-7 6-4 6-4
AO16 SF b. Federer 6-1 6-2 3-6 6-3
AO16 F b. Murray 6-1 7-5 7-6(3)
RG16 F b. Murray 3-6 6-1 6-2 6-4
WI18 SF b. Nadal 6-4 3-6 7-6(9) 3-6 10-8
AO19 F b. Nadal 6-3 6-2 6-3
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Impressive and interesting....
 
Lew II said:
In the next RG it will be 5 years since the last time Djokovic lost a Grand Slam match to any of the Big4.


Since then, 12 consecutive wins for Djokovic:

WI14 F b. Federer 6-7(7) 6-4 7-6(4) 5-7 6-4
UO14 QF b. Murray 7-6(1) 6-7(1) 6-2 6-4
AO15 F b. Murray 7-6(5) 6-7(4) 6-3 6-0
RG15 QF b. Nadal 7-5 6-3 6-1
RG15 SF b. Murray 6-3 6-3 5-7 5-7 6-1
WI15 F b. Federer 7-6(1) 6-7(10) 6-4 6-3
UO15 F b. Federer 6-4 5-7 6-4 6-4
AO16 SF b. Federer 6-1 6-2 3-6 6-3
AO16 F b. Murray 6-1 7-5 7-6(3)
RG16 F b. Murray 3-6 6-1 6-2 6-4
WI18 SF b. Nadal 6-4 3-6 7-6(9) 3-6 10-8
AO19 F b. Nadal 6-3 6-2 6-3
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Pure dominance. 7 years since he lost to Fed in a gs
 
Very impressive. Man for the big occasion undoubtedly.

Time for Nadal to end that streak. ;)
 
tennisaddict said:
By being No 1 in 2018, by winning 3 majors at 36, by being no 1 in the race at 38.. should I go on ??
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Oh so he can be no1 only when top player is out? That sounds like opportunistic to me in same way he became no 1 when Nadal was out of pic in 2009. Best beats best ,they don't wait for opportunities.
 
Obviously impressive, but Djoko’s 2 year down period was so bad he didn’t meet these guys. Smart tactically because he retained his mental edge, but Djokovic has racked up tons of wins on Nadal/Fed when they were clearly not in top form.
 
RelentlessAttack said:
Obviously impressive, but Djoko’s 2 year down period was so bad he didn’t meet these guys. Smart tactically because he retained his mental edge, but Djokovic has racked up tons of wins on Nadal/Fed when they were clearly not in top form.
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Lmao excuse he owns both deal with it.
 
Noletheking said:
Lmao excuse he owns both deal with it.
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I like all 3 (slight preference for Nadal) but am a Tennis fan first and foremost. It’s the same as when young Nadal wasn’t meeting Federer deep in tournaments off clay but was owning him on clay. Even though I preferred Nadal it was obvious that the H2H was skewed by this phenomenon.
 
RelentlessAttack said:
I like all 3 (slight preference for Nadal) but am a Tennis fan first and foremost. It’s the same as when young Nadal wasn’t meeting Federer deep in tournaments off clay but was owning him on clay. Even though I preferred Nadal it was obvious that the H2H was skewed by this phenomenon.
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You're an excuse fan. Nadal was in top form in Wimbledon 2018 and Ao open 2019 , you don't go to deep without being in great form . In all slam meeting Nadal was in top form except Rg 2015. Weak competition is bs. Nadal alone is a 100times tougher opponent in a semi and final of a slam than anyone fed faced in his era . Also don't forget Fed was playing at very high level in wim and us open finals when he defeated him so dong come up with bs like they were not in form. He owns both.
 
Noletheking said:
You're an excuse fan. Nadal was in top form in Wimbledon 2018 and Ao open 2019 , you don't go to deep without being in great form . In all slam meeting Nadal was in top form except Rg 2015. Weak competition is bs. Nadal alone is a 100times tougher opponent in a semi and final of a slam than anyone fed faced in his era . Also don't forget Fed was playing at very high level in wim and us open finals when he defeated him so dong come up with bs like they were not in form. He owns both.
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How many times did Djokovic make it deep enough to meet these guys from mid 2016-mid 2018?
 
Noletheking said:
Oh so he can be no1 only when top player is out? That sounds like opportunistic to me in same way he became no 1 when Nadal was out of pic in 2009. Best beats best ,they don't wait for opportunities.
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What a load of b.s. The best try to win the biggest events in whatever it takes & against whomever happens to be in their way. As for you 2009 comment , Nadal was winning slams from 2005 onward & ranked #2 from 07.25.2005 up until post Wimbly 2008. 3 consecutive years being #2! Nadal was in the pic 4 years prior.
 
Lew II said:
In the next RG it will be 5 years since the last time Djokovic lost a Grand Slam match to any of the Big4.


Since then, 12 consecutive wins for Djokovic:

WI14 F b. Federer 6-7(7) 6-4 7-6(4) 5-7 6-4
UO14 QF b. Murray 7-6(1) 6-7(1) 6-2 6-4
AO15 F b. Murray 7-6(5) 6-7(4) 6-3 6-0
RG15 QF b. Nadal 7-5 6-3 6-1
RG15 SF b. Murray 6-3 6-3 5-7 5-7 6-1
WI15 F b. Federer 7-6(1) 6-7(10) 6-4 6-3
UO15 F b. Federer 6-4 5-7 6-4 6-4
AO16 SF b. Federer 6-1 6-2 3-6 6-3
AO16 F b. Murray 6-1 7-5 7-6(3)
RG16 F b. Murray 3-6 6-1 6-2 6-4
WI18 SF b. Nadal 6-4 3-6 7-6(9) 3-6 10-8
AO19 F b. Nadal 6-3 6-2 6-3
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Nadal doesn't appear until 2018.

Weak.

2015 FO doesn't count.
 
Jonas78 said:
After all these unfair-claims regarding 2 HC slams and only one clay, whats next? Maybe we should change the format of the slams to how it is in boxing and chess? The title holder only plays one person who has to qualify to play a title match? :-D
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Just like the good 'ol days of yesteryear when the then current title holders had a'bye' through to the final lol
 
I suppose it's better to lose to the Kholi's & RBA's of the world throughout mickey mouse rounds than to make it to the final & lose to Fed?

That's the one thing that DjokerDal fans can never pin us down on , Fed's sheer consistency vs the field. Yeah his H2H vs his main rivals is weak , but it's conveniently ignored as to how much more superior Fed is vs the field than DjokerDal. Especially Nadal.
 
mr tonyz said:
I suppose it's better to lose to the Kholi's & RBA's of the world throughout mickey mouse rounds than to make it to the final & lose to Fed?

That's the one thing that DjokerDal fans can never pin us down on , Fed's sheer consistency vs the field. Yeah his H2H vs his main rivals is weak , but it's conveniently ignored as to how much more superior Fed is vs the field than DjokerDal. Especially Nadal.
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His H2H vs his main rivals is nothing out of the ordinary. He is in line with the historic trends in that regard.

8-)
 
Great accomplishment for Novak.... And mountains of unsecurity from majority ((y) for objective minority) of Fed fans trying to degrade success... Like it so much :-D
 
This just proves Djokovic is GOAT. It's clearly much more impressive to lose to Istomin, Chung and Cecchinato than to fellow Big 3 players.

It is an impressive record and shows Djokovic's dominance and mental strength. Some of these victories were brilliant achievements, such as last year's Wimbledon SF. But it just highlights the flaws in these kind of metrics. Djokovic was trash from 2017 to the first half of 2018. He lost both times he played Nadal. Why should he be congratulated for failing to reach Fedal in this period?
 
Dissapointed with the insecure comments from some (not all) Fed fans. Please note how Lew II was being very moderate with this thread. He did not say anything offensive, he just stated a meritory stat from Djokovic, yet I read a lot of dismissing comments.
 
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Lew II said:
In the next RG it will be 5 years since the last time Djokovic lost a Grand Slam match to any of the Big4.


Since then, 12 consecutive wins for Djokovic:

WI14 F b. Federer 6-7(7) 6-4 7-6(4) 5-7 6-4
UO14 QF b. Murray 7-6(1) 6-7(1) 6-2 6-4
AO15 F b. Murray 7-6(5) 6-7(4) 6-3 6-0
RG15 QF b. Nadal 7-5 6-3 6-1
RG15 SF b. Murray 6-3 6-3 5-7 5-7 6-1
WI15 F b. Federer 7-6(1) 6-7(10) 6-4 6-3
UO15 F b. Federer 6-4 5-7 6-4 6-4
AO16 SF b. Federer 6-1 6-2 3-6 6-3
AO16 F b. Murray 6-1 7-5 7-6(3)
RG16 F b. Murray 3-6 6-1 6-2 6-4
WI18 SF b. Nadal 6-4 3-6 7-6(9) 3-6 10-8
AO19 F b. Nadal 6-3 6-2 6-3
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He beat them 12 times in 10 GS, winning 8. USO18 was the only GS during the period he won without beating Fedal/Murray.
 
About Novak failing to reach Nadal and Federer in mentioned period:
PS. If player skipped tournament its counted as failed to reach competition because that way competition didn't have opportunity to beat player...

W14: Rafa failed to reach Nole, Rafa failed to reach Fed
U14: Rafa failed to reach Nole, Rafa failed to reach Fed (Rafa did not played, Nole and Fed both lost in SF so no fail)
A15: Rafa failed to reach Nole, Fed failed to reach Nole
R15: Fed failed to reach Nole
W15: Rafa failed to reach Fed, Rafa failed to reach Nole
U15: Rafa failed to reach Fed, Rafa failed to reach Nole
A16: Rafa failed to reach Nole
R16: Rafa failed to reach Nole, Fed failed to reach Nole, Fed failed to reach Rafa
W16: Nole failed to reach Fed, Rafa failed to reach Nole, Rafa failed to reach Fed
U16: Rafa failed to reach Nole, Fed failed to reach Nole, Fed failed to reach Rafa
A17: Nole failed to reach Fed, Nole failed to reach Rafa
R17: Nole failed to reach Rafa, Fed failed to reach Nole, Fed failed to reach Rafa
W17: Nole failed to reach Fed, Rafa failed to reach Fed
U17: Nole failed to reach Rafa, Nole failed to reach Fed, Fed failed to reach Rafa
A18: Nole failed to reach Fed, Rafa failed to reach Fed
R18: Nole failed to reach Rafa, Fed failed to reach Nole, Fed failed to reach Rafa
W18: Fed failed to reach Nole
U18: Fed failed to reach Nole, Rafa failed to reach Nole
A18: Fed failed to reach Nole, Fed failed to reach Rafa

Recapitulation:
Rafa denied Nole 10 chances to beat him, loosing in previous round or not showing at all...
Rafa denied Fed 7 chances to beat him, loosing in previous round or not showing at all...
Fed denied Nole 9 chances to beat him, loosing in previous round or not showing at all...
Fed denied Rafa 6 chances to beat him, loosing in previous round or not showing at all...
Nole denied Fed 5 chances to beat him, loosing in previous round or not showing at all...
Nole denied Nadal 4 chances to beat him, loosing in previous round or not showing at all...

Combined:
Novak denied his rivals 9 chances to beat him
Fed denied his rivals 15 chances to beat him
Rafa denied his rivals 17 chances to beat him

I somehow always sensed this facts, but now its confirmed....
 
It’s really an incredible stat. If he wasn’t so consistent at RG only to lose to Nadal, it might have been longer. The streak could be in real danger if he ends up meeting Nadal at RG this year though.
 
Phoenix1983 said:
So what you’re telling me is that all of Novak Djokovic’s slam defeats for 5 years have been to mugs.

Good to know.
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No, I showed that all winning about "Novak didn't give chance to rivals to beat him" was BS.
And yes, Novak lost to some mugs, but this thread is about his rivalry with greatest rivals.
And he gave every chance to his rivals to beat him, at least he gave much more chances to them than his rivals gave to him.
 
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