5th set winning percentage?

[BGod]

The Top 10:

Johan Kriek: 81.82% (18-4)
Bjorn Borg: 80% (24-6)
Kei Nishikori: 80% (12-3)
Rafael Nadal: 77.27% (17-5)
Harold Solomon: 76.19% (16-5)
Tommy Robredo: 76.19% (16-5)
Aaron Krickstein: 75.68% (28-9)
Novak Djokovic: 75% (24-8)
Thierry Champton: 73.33% (11-4)
Chris Lewis: 72.22% (13-5)

*Purple is under 20 matches

Looking at that list what impresses me most is Krickstein, who is best remembered for a 5 set loss. His 28 wins are the most in the Top 10 but Djokovic is tied with Borg with 24 wins himself.

 

[Zoolander]

Goes to show what a maching Borg was. And im not talking about star trek.

I imagine Nishi has the time to improve even more but Rafa may slip a fair bit if he hangs around a while, unless he dosent actually get to 5 sets anymore!

 

[Zoolander]

Sorry meant machine. My fat fingers.

 

[Complete Trash]

I don't want to be indelicate or anything, but why are you posting this if we can find this data on the atp website?

 

[Inanimate_object]

Sad, sad Krickstein. However many 5 sets he won, he'll be losing to Connors for eternity.

 

[Inanimate_object]

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[Zoolander]

I don't want to be indelicate or anything, but why are you posting this if we can find this data on the atp website?

So indelicate! People posting it means we dont have to find it ourselves!

 

[vive le beau jeu !]

(double post)

 

[vive le beau jeu !]

The Top 10:

Johan Kriek: 81.82% (18-4)
Bjorn Borg: 80% (24-6)
Kei Nishikori: 80% (12-3)
Rafael Nadal: 77.27% (17-5)
Harold Solomon: 76.19% (16-5)
Tommy Robredo: 76.19% (16-5)
Aaron Krickstein: 75.68% (28-9)
Novak Djokovic: 75% (24-8)
Thierry Champton: 73.33% (11-4)
Chris Lewis: 72.22% (13-5)

*Purple is under 20 matches

Looking at that list what impresses me most is Krickstein, who is best remembered for a 5 set loss. His 28 wins are the most in the Top 10 but Djokovic is tied with Borg with 24 wins himself.

there's a nice old thread with lots of 5-sets records:
http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/index.php?threads/atp-5-set-records-five-set.335267/#post-4803469
(it might need some update !)

el aynaoui appears to be 13-5 as lewis.
as regards active players, chardy is 8-2 at the moment... not so bad !

 

[THE FIGHTER]

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c'mon guys. you have to be more careful

 

[THE FIGHTER]

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c'mon guys. you have to be more careful

 

[RF-18]

Where is Federer? What is his 5ht set percentage?

I know it is pretty bad but I'd like to know the percentage

 

[Gazelle]

Where is Federer? What is his 5ht set percentage?

I know it is pretty bad but I'd like to know the percentage

It's better than Djoks convertion rate in slam finals

 

[RF-18]

It's better than Djoks convertion rate in slam finals

Was not the topic. Where is Federer in this list.

 

[Nathaniel_Near]

@RF-18

Roger is way too noob to have a higher win rate than 55% in 5 setters.

 

[vanioMan]

Borg

 

[HipRotation]

Nishikori gets his 5 set wins from playing Raonic all the time

 

[Steve0904]

Goes to show what a maching Borg was. And im not talking about star trek.

I imagine Nishi has the time to improve even more but Rafa may slip a fair bit if he hangs around a while, unless he dosent actually get to 5 sets anymore!

Borg most likely benefited from retiring early in this regard though. I mean, if we're talking about Rafa slipping if he hangs around then the same would be true of Borg, yes? Don't get me wrong, 24-6 is still crazy good though.

 

[NatF]

@RF-18

Roger is way too noob to have a higher win rate than 55% in 5 setters.

Too be fair he's won more 5 setters than many of these kids have played. He's also lost more than they've played as well...

Yeah total noob you're right.

 

[Nathaniel_Near]

@NatF
Exactly.

 

[nolefam_2024]

The Top 10:

Johan Kriek: 81.82% (18-4)
Bjorn Borg: 80% (24-6)
Kei Nishikori: 80% (12-3)
Rafael Nadal: 77.27% (17-5)
Harold Solomon: 76.19% (16-5)
Tommy Robredo: 76.19% (16-5)
Aaron Krickstein: 75.68% (28-9)
Novak Djokovic: 75% (24-8)
Thierry Champton: 73.33% (11-4)
Chris Lewis: 72.22% (13-5)

*Purple is under 20 matches

Looking at that list what impresses me most is Krickstein, who is best remembered for a 5 set loss. His 28 wins are the most in the Top 10 but Djokovic is tied with Borg with 24 wins himself.

Since this thread was created Nadal and Djokovic went in reverse direction

Djokovic went 16-3 in fifth set
Nadal went 9-8 in fifth set

Nadal lost his freak physicality.

 

[Deleted member 810491]

Alcaraz 11-1
Djokovic 40-11
Nadal 26-13

Ultimate Tennis Statistics should update its site more often... it still has Alcaraz at 9-1, and Djokovic at 37-11, and Nadal at 26-12.
https://www.ultimatetennisstatistics.com/
And its got Borg at 27-6...

Ultimate Tennis Statistics - Bjorn Borg

Bjorn Borg profile at Ultimate Tennis Statistics

www.ultimatetennisstatistics.com

 

[tudwell]

Has anyone ever started 11-1 in five setters? Or, better, 12-0?

Or is Alcaraz the first?

 

[Tano]

Has anyone ever started 11-1 in five setters? Or, better, 12-0?

Or is Alcaraz the first?

Borg, perhaps?

 

[buscemi]

Borg, perhaps?

He started 10-2, then won 2 more to get to 12-2, then lost his next 2 to get to 12-4.

 

[nolefam_2024]

Has anyone ever started 11-1 in five setters? Or, better, 12-0?

Or is Alcaraz the first?

Nadal was 12-2

 

[Backspin1183]

Nishikori is 29-7 in 5 setters.

 

[Pheasant]

Here are Borg’s comeback wins from either 2-0 down or 2-1 down

1973 USO: In the 1st round, 17-year old Borg trailed Barth 2-0, then came back and won
1974 Davis Cup: trailed Nowicki 2-1, then came back and won
1974 Rome: Trailed Vilas 2-0 in the semis, then came back and won. Afterwards, he smoked Nastase in straight sets to win the title
1974 FO: trailed Oranges 2-0 in the final, then came back and won
1975 Dallas: trailed Laver 2-1 in the semi, then came back and won
1976 USO: trialed Gottfried 2-0 in R16, then came back and won
1977 Wimbledon: trailed Edmonson 2-0 in R16, then came back and won
1979 Wimbledon: trailed Amritraj 2-1 in the 2nd round, then came back and won
1980 USO: trailed Tanner 2-1 in the QF, then came back and won
1980 USO: trailed Kriek 2-0 in the semi, then came back and won
1981 Wimbledon: trailed Connors 2-0 in the semis, then came back and won

That’s 7 times he came back from 2-0 down and 4 times that he came back from 2-1 down. Nearly half of his 5-set wins are when he trailed 2-0 or 2-1. That is ridiculous. That is why they called him The Iceman.

 

[roysid]

The numbers do not tell the full story. What matters more is

Against whom you are playing in 5th set.
At what stage is the 5th set played. A grand slam final is highest importance.

And given history, significance , opponent difficulty etc which 5th set win is the most credible.

Given all these, the most impressive 5th set victory this decade is Alcatraz against Djokovic in Wimbledon.

To compare, Alcatraz win against zverev is not so difficult because by then zverev was spent force.
Against Djokovic till match point is over, nothing is over

 

[Im(moral) Winner]

The numbers do not tell the full story. What matters more is

Against whom you are playing in 5th set.
At what stage is the 5th set played. A grand slam final is highest importance.

And given history, significance , opponent difficulty etc which 5th set win is the most credible.

Given all these, the most impressive 5th set victory this decade is Alcatraz against Djokovic in Wimbledon.

To compare, Alcatraz win against zverev is not so difficult because by then zverev was spent force.
Against Djokovic till match point is over, nothing is over

Alcaraz himself played a 5-setter before the final

 

[buscemi]

Here are Borg’s comeback wins from either 2-0 down or 2-1 down

1973 USO: In the 1st round, 17-year old Borg trailed Barth 2-0, then came back and won
1974 Davis Cup: trailed Nowicki 2-1, then came back and won
1974 Rome: Trailed Vilas 2-0 in the semis, then came back and won. Afterwards, he smoked Nastase in straight sets to win the title
1974 FO: trailed Oranges 2-0 in the final, then came back and won
1975 Dallas: trailed Laver 2-1 in the semi, then came back and won
1976 USO: trialed Gottfried 2-0 in R16, then came back and won
1977 Wimbledon: trailed Edmonson 2-0 in R16, then came back and won
1979 Wimbledon: trailed Amritraj 2-1 in the 2nd round, then came back and won
1980 USO: trailed Tanner 2-1 in the QF, then came back and won
1980 USO: trailed Kriek 2-0 in the semi, then came back and won
1981 Wimbledon: trailed Connors 2-0 in the semis, then came back and won

That’s 7 times he came back from 2-0 down and 4 times that he came back from 2-1 down. Nearly half of his 5-set wins are when he trailed 2-0 or 2-1. That is ridiculous. That is why they called him The Iceman.

And then, there's "Marathon Man" Aaron Krickstein, who was 28-9 in five setters.

Comebacks from 2-0 down in sets (10 wins):

-Vitas Gerulaitis at the 1983 U.S. Open​

-Bruce Manson at 1986 Dallas​

-Karel Novacek at the 1986 U.S. Open​

-Paul Annacone at the 1986 U.S. Open​

-Andre Agassi at the 1988 Lipton​

-Luiz Mattar at the 1989 Lipton​

-Alexander Volkov at the 1989 U.S. Open​

-Malivai Washington at the 1992 French Open​

-Stefan Edberg at the 1995 Australian Open​

-Christian Bergstrom at 1995 Wimbledon​

Comebacks from 2-1 down in sets (9 wins):

-Paul Mcnamee at the 1985 French Open​

-Peter Lundgren at the 1988 Lipton​

-Richard Vogel at the 1989 French Open​

-Javier Frana at 1989 Wimbledon​

-Andrew Sznajder at the 1990 U.S. Open​

-Eduardo Masso at the 1991 French Open​

-Alexander Volkov at the 1992 Australian Open​

-Olivier Delaitre at 1993 Wimbledon​

-Tomas Carbonell at 1995 WImbledon​

So, that's an incredible 19/28 five set wins from 2-0 or 2-1 down in sets!

 

[Mustard]

And then, there's "Marathon Man" Aaron Krickstein, who was 28-9 in five setters.

I thought it was 27-8?

1983 US Open R128: Aaron Krickstein def. Stefan Edberg (6-3, 6-2, 3-6, 4-6, 7-6)
1983 US Open R32: Aaron Krickstein def. Vitas Gerulaitis (3-6, 3-6, 6-4, 6-3, 6-4)
1984 French Open R64: Wojtek Fibak def. Aaron Krickstein (6-3, 2-6, 6-7, 7-5, 10-8 )
1984 US Open R128: Aaron Krickstein def. Bruce Manson (3-6, 2-6, 7-6, 6-2, 4-0 ret.)
1985 WCT Dallas R16: Aaron Krickstein def. Eliot Teltscher (7-5, 2-6, 6-3, 2-6, 7-5)
1985 French Open R32: Aaron Krickstein def. Paul McNamee (7-5, 5-7, 1-6, 6-2, 6-1)
1985 Davis Cup QF: Hans Schwaier def. Aaron Krickstein (2-6, 6-1, 2-6, 6-1, 8-6)
1986 French Open R64: Mats Wilander def. Aaron Krickstein (6-1, 3-6, 5-7, 6-3, 6-4)
1986 US Open R128: Aaron Krickstein def. Karel Novacek (5-7, 4-6, 7-6, 6-1, 6-3)
1986 US Open R64: Aaron Krickstein def. Paul Annacone (4-6, 4-6, 6-3, 6-4, 7-6)
1987 Davis Cup 1R: Aaron Krickstein def. Hugo Chapacu (5-7, 6-3, 6-1, 4-6, 6-4)
1988 Miami R64: Aaron Krickstein def. Peter Lundgren (4-6, 7-5, 2-6, 7-5, 7-5)
1988 Miami R32: Aaron Krickstein def. Andre Agassi (4-6, 4-6, 6-3, 7-5, 1-0 ret.)
1988 Miami R16: Aaron Krickstein def. Ramesh Krishnan (6-2, 2-6, 6-3, 3-6, 7-5)
1988 US Open R16: Aaron Krickstein def. Stefan Edberg (5-7, 7-6, 7-6, 4-6, 7-5)
1988 US Open QF: Darren Cahill def. Aaron Krickstein (6-2, 5-7, 7-6, 5-7, 6-3)
1989 Miami R128: Aaron Krickstein def. Luiz Mattar (4-6, 3-6, 7-6, 6-0, 7-6)
1989 Miami R32: Aaron Krickstein def. Alexander Mronz (4-6, 6-1, 6-2, 6-7, 7-6)
1989 French Open R128: Aaron Krickstein def. Richard Vogel (4-6, 6-3, 5-7, 6-2, 6-0)
1989 French Open R64: Mark Woodforde def. Aaron Krickstein (1-6, 6-7, 6-4, 6-4, 6-4)
1989 Wimbledon R64: Aaron Krickstein def. Javier Frana (4-6, 6-3, 3-6, 7-6, 7-5)
1989 US Open R32: Aaron Krickstein def. Alexander Volkov (3-6, 3-6, 6-4, 6-2, 6-3)
1990 Davis Cup QF: Aaron Krickstein def. Milan Srejber (4-6, 7-6, 7-6, 6-7, 6-3)
1990 US Open R128: Aaron Krickstein def. Andrew Sznajder (6-1, 4-6, 6-7, 6-1, 6-1)
1991 Wimbledon R128: Aaron Krickstein def. Stefano Pescosolido (6-1, 6-3, 6-7, 6-7, 7-5)
1991 US Open R16: Jimmy Connors def. Aaron Krickstein (3-6, 7-6, 1-6, 6-3, 7-6)
1992 Australian Open R32: Aaron Krickstein def. Alexander Volkov (6-4, 5-7, 6-7, 6-1, 8-6)
1992 Australian Open R16: Amos Mansdorf def. Aaron Krickstein (6-2, 4-6, 1-6, 7-6, 4-1 ret.)
1992 French Open R64: Aaron Krickstein def. MaliVai Washington (4-6, 5-7, 6-4, 7-6, 6-3)
1994 Wimbledon R64: Aaron Krickstein def. Olivier Delaitre (6-7, 7-5, 1-6, 7-6, 6-2)
1995 Australian Open R16: Aaron Krickstein def. Stefan Edberg (6-7, 5-7, 6-4, 7-6, 6-4)
1995 Wimbledon R128: Aaron Krickstein def. Christian Bergstrom (4-6, 0-6, 7-6, 6-2, 6-2)
1995 Wimbledon R32: Aaron Krickstein def. Tomas Carbonell (6-7, 7-5, 5-7, 6-3, 6-2)
1995 US Open R128: Aaron Krickstein def. Lionel Roux (3-6, 6-3, 6-1, 3-6, 6-4)
1995 US Open R64: Jason Stoltenberg def. Aaron Krickstein (6-2, 6-4, 2-6, 4-6, 6-1)

 

[GAS]

And future 30-Slam winner Jannik Sinner is at 50%? Oh my...

 

[PMChambers]

5-Set win only mean something if you're beating someone better or near your ranking. Otherwise it's 5 setter that should have finished in 3 or 4 sets.

 

[buscemi]

I thought it was 27-8?

1983 US Open R128: Aaron Krickstein def. Stefan Edberg (6-3, 6-2, 3-6, 4-6, 7-6)
1983 US Open R32: Aaron Krickstein def. Vitas Gerulaitis (3-6, 3-6, 6-4, 6-3, 6-4)
1984 French Open R64: Wojtek Fibak def. Aaron Krickstein (6-3, 2-6, 6-7, 7-5, 10-8 )
1984 US Open R128: Aaron Krickstein def. Bruce Manson (3-6, 2-6, 7-6, 6-2, 4-0 ret.)
1985 WCT Dallas R16: Aaron Krickstein def. Eliot Teltscher (7-5, 2-6, 6-3, 2-6, 7-5)
1985 French Open R32: Aaron Krickstein def. Paul McNamee (7-5, 5-7, 1-6, 6-2, 6-1)
1985 Davis Cup QF: Hans Schwaier def. Aaron Krickstein (2-6, 6-1, 2-6, 6-1, 8-6)
1986 French Open R64: Mats Wilander def. Aaron Krickstein (6-1, 3-6, 5-7, 6-3, 6-4)
1986 US Open R128: Aaron Krickstein def. Karel Novacek (5-7, 4-6, 7-6, 6-1, 6-3)
1986 US Open R64: Aaron Krickstein def. Paul Annacone (4-6, 4-6, 6-3, 6-4, 7-6)
1987 Davis Cup 1R: Aaron Krickstein def. Hugo Chapacu (5-7, 6-3, 6-1, 4-6, 6-4)
1988 Miami R64: Aaron Krickstein def. Peter Lundgren (4-6, 7-5, 2-6, 7-5, 7-5)
1988 Miami R32: Aaron Krickstein def. Andre Agassi (4-6, 4-6, 6-3, 7-5, 1-0 ret.)
1988 Miami R16: Aaron Krickstein def. Ramesh Krishnan (6-2, 2-6, 6-3, 3-6, 7-5)
1988 US Open R16: Aaron Krickstein def. Stefan Edberg (5-7, 7-6, 7-6, 4-6, 7-5)
1988 US Open QF: Darren Cahill def. Aaron Krickstein (6-2, 5-7, 7-6, 5-7, 6-3)
1989 Miami R128: Aaron Krickstein def. Luiz Mattar (4-6, 3-6, 7-6, 6-0, 7-6)
1989 Miami R32: Aaron Krickstein def. Alexander Mronz (4-6, 6-1, 6-2, 6-7, 7-6)
1989 French Open R128: Aaron Krickstein def. Richard Vogel (4-6, 6-3, 5-7, 6-2, 6-0)
1989 French Open R64: Mark Woodforde def. Aaron Krickstein (1-6, 6-7, 6-4, 6-4, 6-4)
1989 Wimbledon R64: Aaron Krickstein def. Javier Frana (4-6, 6-3, 3-6, 7-6, 7-5)
1989 US Open R32: Aaron Krickstein def. Alexander Volkov (3-6, 3-6, 6-4, 6-2, 6-3)
1990 Davis Cup QF: Aaron Krickstein def. Milan Srejber (4-6, 7-6, 7-6, 6-7, 6-3)
1990 US Open R128: Aaron Krickstein def. Andrew Sznajder (6-1, 4-6, 6-7, 6-1, 6-1)
1991 Wimbledon R128: Aaron Krickstein def. Stefano Pescosolido (6-1, 6-3, 6-7, 6-7, 7-5)
1991 US Open R16: Jimmy Connors def. Aaron Krickstein (3-6, 7-6, 1-6, 6-3, 7-6)
1992 Australian Open R32: Aaron Krickstein def. Alexander Volkov (6-4, 5-7, 6-7, 6-1, 8-6)
1992 Australian Open R16: Amos Mansdorf def. Aaron Krickstein (6-2, 4-6, 1-6, 7-6, 4-1 ret.)
1992 French Open R64: Aaron Krickstein def. MaliVai Washington (4-6, 5-7, 6-4, 7-6, 6-3)
1994 Wimbledon R64: Aaron Krickstein def. Olivier Delaitre (6-7, 7-5, 1-6, 7-6, 6-2)
1995 Australian Open R16: Aaron Krickstein def. Stefan Edberg (6-7, 5-7, 6-4, 7-6, 6-4)
1995 Wimbledon R128: Aaron Krickstein def. Christian Bergstrom (4-6, 0-6, 7-6, 6-2, 6-2)
1995 Wimbledon R32: Aaron Krickstein def. Tomas Carbonell (6-7, 7-5, 5-7, 6-3, 6-2)
1995 US Open R128: Aaron Krickstein def. Lionel Roux (3-6, 6-3, 6-1, 3-6, 6-4)
1995 US Open R64: Jason Stoltenberg def. Aaron Krickstein (6-2, 6-4, 2-6, 4-6, 6-1)

If I have this right, the 28th win was over Eduardo Masso in the first round of the 1991 French Open, 6-7, 6-4, 2-6, 6-4, 7-5

And the 9th loss was against Mikael Tillstrom in the first round of the 1996 Australian Open, 6-4, 6-4, 1-6, 5-7, 6-2.

 

[buscemi]

5-Set win only mean something if you're beating someone better or near your ranking. Otherwise it's 5 setter that should have finished in 3 or 4 sets.

This is where Krickstein shines. I have him as 10-1 in five setters against higher ranked players, with the only loss being to Wilander at the 1986 French Open.

 

[buscemi]

And future 30-Slam winner Jannik Sinner is at 50%? Oh my...

In fairness, Federer was 11-11 in his first 22 five set matches.

 

[PMChambers]

This is where Krickstein shines. I have him as 10-1 in five setters against higher ranked players, with the only loss being to Wilander at the 1986 French Open.

I liked his game, made an effort to see him practise live late 80s. Don't think I saw him live though. He was very much high percentage no weapon player like Wilander. Very solid, like a slow hard court version of Bruguera.

 

[Pheasant]

And then, there's "Marathon Man" Aaron Krickstein, who was 28-9 in five setters.

Comebacks from 2-0 down in sets (10 wins):

-Vitas Gerulaitis at the 1983 U.S. Open​

-Bruce Manson at 1986 Dallas​

-Karel Novacek at the 1986 U.S. Open​

-Paul Annacone at the 1986 U.S. Open​

-Andre Agassi at the 1988 Lipton​

-Luiz Mattar at the 1989 Lipton​

-Alexander Volkov at the 1989 U.S. Open​

-Malivai Washington at the 1992 French Open​

-Stefan Edberg at the 1995 Australian Open​

-Christian Bergstrom at 1995 Wimbledon​

Comebacks from 2-1 down in sets (9 wins):

-Paul Mcnamee at the 1985 French Open​

-Peter Lundgren at the 1988 Lipton​

-Richard Vogel at the 1989 French Open​

-Javier Frana at 1989 Wimbledon​

-Andrew Sznajder at the 1990 U.S. Open​

-Eduardo Masso at the 1991 French Open​

-Alexander Volkov at the 1992 Australian Open​

-Olivier Delaitre at 1993 Wimbledon​

-Tomas Carbonell at 1995 WImbledon​

So, that's an incredible 19/28 five set wins from 2-0 or 2-1 down in sets!

Wow!!!! Thanks for sharing that. That is wicked! I had no idea.

 

[nolefam_2024]

Nishikori is now 27-6 so 81.81%

 

[Rovesciarete]

Nishikori is now 27-6 so 81.81%

Crazy indeed, speaks for his endurance...

 

[Tano]

Crazy indeed, speaks for his endurance...

It sounds like a joke when it comes to Nishikori.

 

[tennisjedi]

Nishikori is now 27-6 so 81.81%

 

[Rovesciarete]

It sounds like a joke when it comes to Nishikori.

sadly yes...

 

[Deleted member 810491]

In fairness, Federer was 11-11 in his first 22 five set matches.

Too bad Sinner (and the hundreds of others with 11-11 in their first 22) has nothing in common with Federer other than that...

 

[JasonZ]

Here are Borg’s comeback wins from either 2-0 down or 2-1 down

1973 USO: In the 1st round, 17-year old Borg trailed Barth 2-0, then came back and won
1974 Davis Cup: trailed Nowicki 2-1, then came back and won
1974 Rome: Trailed Vilas 2-0 in the semis, then came back and won. Afterwards, he smoked Nastase in straight sets to win the title
1974 FO: trailed Oranges 2-0 in the final, then came back and won
1975 Dallas: trailed Laver 2-1 in the semi, then came back and won
1976 USO: trialed Gottfried 2-0 in R16, then came back and won
1977 Wimbledon: trailed Edmonson 2-0 in R16, then came back and won
1979 Wimbledon: trailed Amritraj 2-1 in the 2nd round, then came back and won
1980 USO: trailed Tanner 2-1 in the QF, then came back and won
1980 USO: trailed Kriek 2-0 in the semi, then came back and won
1981 Wimbledon: trailed Connors 2-0 in the semis, then came back and won

That’s 7 times he came back from 2-0 down and 4 times that he came back from 2-1 down. Nearly half of his 5-set wins are when he trailed 2-0 or 2-1. That is ridiculous. That is why they called him The Iceman.

actually they should call him very slow starter borg. more a sign of mental weakness to lose the first 2 sets against clearly inferior players.

 

[Mustard]

Here are Borg’s comeback wins from either 2-0 down or 2-1 down

1973 USO: In the 1st round, 17-year old Borg trailed Barth 2-0, then came back and won
1974 Davis Cup: trailed Nowicki 2-1, then came back and won
1974 Rome: Trailed Vilas 2-0 in the semis, then came back and won. Afterwards, he smoked Nastase in straight sets to win the title
1974 FO: trailed Oranges 2-0 in the final, then came back and won
1975 Dallas: trailed Laver 2-1 in the semi, then came back and won
1976 USO: trialed Gottfried 2-0 in R16, then came back and won
1977 Wimbledon: trailed Edmonson 2-0 in R16, then came back and won
1979 Wimbledon: trailed Amritraj 2-1 in the 2nd round, then came back and won
1980 USO: trailed Tanner 2-1 in the QF, then came back and won
1980 USO: trailed Kriek 2-0 in the semi, then came back and won
1981 Wimbledon: trailed Connors 2-0 in the semis, then came back and won

That’s 7 times he came back from 2-0 down and 4 times that he came back from 2-1 down. Nearly half of his 5-set wins are when he trailed 2-0 or 2-1. That is ridiculous. That is why they called him The Iceman.

Borg trailed Tanner 1-2 in sets in the 1979 Wimbledon final. Borg won 6-7, 6-1, 3-6, 6-3, 6-4.

Tanner's performance was definitely one of the best from a loser in a major final. He went down an early break in the fifth set, but then put a lot of pressure on Borg for the rest of the set as Tanner sought to break back, including narrowly missing the line on break point, and getting it to deuce when Borg had been 40-0 up when serving for the title.

 

[xFedal]

Carlos will enter this list in 2026?

 

[Pheasant]

Borg trailed Tanner 1-2 in sets in the 1979 Wimbledon final. Borg won 6-7, 6-1, 3-6, 6-3, 6-4.

Tanner's performance was definitely one of the best from a loser in a major final. He went down an early break in the fifth set, but then put a lot of pressure on Borg for the rest of the set as Tanner sort to break back, including narrowly missing the line on break point, and getting it to deuce when Borg had been 40-0 up when serving for the title.

Wow. Nice pickup there. That’s one helluva comeback, considering how damn good of a server that Tanner was(likely top-5 ever).

 

[halbrikj]

Here are Borg’s comeback wins from either 2-0 down or 2-1 down

1973 USO: In the 1st round, 17-year old Borg trailed Barth 2-0, then came back and won
1974 Davis Cup: trailed Nowicki 2-1, then came back and won
1974 Rome: Trailed Vilas 2-0 in the semis, then came back and won. Afterwards, he smoked Nastase in straight sets to win the title
1974 FO: trailed Oranges 2-0 in the final, then came back and won
1975 Dallas: trailed Laver 2-1 in the semi, then came back and won
1976 USO: trialed Gottfried 2-0 in R16, then came back and won
1977 Wimbledon: trailed Edmonson 2-0 in R16, then came back and won
1979 Wimbledon: trailed Amritraj 2-1 in the 2nd round, then came back and won
1980 USO: trailed Tanner 2-1 in the QF, then came back and won
1980 USO: trailed Kriek 2-0 in the semi, then came back and won
1981 Wimbledon: trailed Connors 2-0 in the semis, then came back and won

That’s 7 times he came back from 2-0 down and 4 times that he came back from 2-1 down. Nearly half of his 5-set wins are when he trailed 2-0 or 2-1. That is ridiculous. That is why they called him The Iceman.

or, was there something more at play? and some of those down-two-set comebacks had "ridiculous" scores. You better believe if someone wins 4-6 4-6 6-1 6-1 6-1 today, with no injuries to the losing player, there would be an investigation.