6th sense academy

roddick_rulz

Semi-Pro
Hi,
I'd just like to know if anyone has had experience wit this academy.
It seems well developed and am considering both the academy in belgium and in florida.
If anyone has any info, that would be great.
 

notennis

Rookie
if you go there I heard you see dead people. :eek:

I'm not sure where you are getting your information, but if you mean dead people referring to the Resort itself than yes this would be considered a retirement community very similar to Saddlebrook.

On too Tennis. I have been to all the Academies in Florida and will tell you that the quality of students playing at Six Sense, which by the way is maybe about 10-15 people max, is far better than what you might see at an Academy of it's same size. They have 7 year olds that are hitting one handed backhands from the baseline with plenty of top spin. The Pro's are second to none and all european for the most part. You should fact find next time before making a comment about something you know nothing about.

I would emagine that folks will come on here like TCF and say that he has plenty of students hitting one handed backhands at age 5-6 from the baseline I might add......

The Academy is still new and Pat Etchebarry is up there as well full time...
 

10isDad

Hall of Fame
I'm not sure where you are getting your information, but if you mean dead people referring to the Resort itself than yes this would be considered a retirement community very similar to Saddlebrook.

You don't see many movies, eh? The movie the Sixth Sense where Bruce Willis sees dead people? Sixth Sense = 6th Sense...get it?
 

notennis

Rookie
You don't see many movies, eh? The movie the Sixth Sense where Bruce Willis sees dead people? Sixth Sense = 6th Sense...get it?

Yah, thats an old movie I forgot.Thats amuzing. For those of you who misunderstood like me, now you know about the 6th sense TENNIS academy...
 
I'm not sure where you are getting your information, but if you mean dead people referring to the Resort itself than yes this would be considered a retirement community very similar to Saddlebrook.

On too Tennis. I have been to all the Academies in Florida and will tell you that the quality of students playing at Six Sense, which by the way is maybe about 10-15 people max, is far better than what you might see at an Academy of it's same size. They have 7 year olds that are hitting one handed backhands from the baseline with plenty of top spin. The Pro's are second to none and all european for the most part. You should fact find next time before making a comment about something you know nothing about.

I would emagine that folks will come on here like TCF and say that he has plenty of students hitting one handed backhands at age 5-6 from the baseline I might add......

The Academy is still new and Pat Etchebarry is up there as well full time...

Actually we don't teach one handed backhands to kids that young. The muscle imbalance is too much, hitting both forehands and backhands with the same side of the body, especially when hitting the thousands of balls the little ones hit these days. Sports doctors have reported kids with growth deformities from using a one handed backhand from a very young age.

Its a better idea to teach them the 2HB and once they are 10-12 or so they can switch. Talented kids make the switch quickly if they so choose. We teach them to release to 1 hand when taking a short ball though.

I believe even Henin herself (who is behind the 6th Sense Academy) did not start with the one hander until at an older age, of course she also played lots of soccer so did not really hit a ton of tennis balls at age 5-9.

Pros second to none? Macci, Saviano, the IMG Bradenton guys, Sanchez-Vicario, Lansdorp and others who have actually developed multiple world class players might argue that claim. 6th Sense Florida is too new to make such claims, lets see the players they develop over time.
 
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notennis

Rookie
Actually we don't teach one handed backhands to kids that young. The muscle imbalance is too much, hitting both forehands and backhands with the same side of the body, especially when hitting the thousands of balls the little ones hit these days. Sports doctors have reported kids with growth deformities from using a one handed backhand from a very young age.

Its a better idea to teach them the 2HB and once they are 10-12 or so they can switch. Talented kids make the switch quickly if they so choose. We teach them to release to 1 hand when taking a short ball though.

I believe even Henin herself (who is behind the 6th Sense Academy) did not start with the one hander until at an older age, of course she also played lots of soccer so did not really hit a ton of tennis balls at age 5-9.

Pros second to none? Macci, Saviano, the IMG Bradenton guys, Sanchez-Vicario, Lansdorp and others who have actually developed multiple world class players might argue that claim. 6th Sense Florida is too new to make such claims, lets see the players they develop over time.

Not making any claims other than the fact that they have good coaches who apparently teach excellent fundamentals as eveident by the young raw talent that was there when I visited. 2HB is fine with me, but I'm not sure I agree with your analysys, and I'm quite sure Hennin started a one hander at a very young age and most certainly not 10-12 even though she played Soccer.
My only question to you is, would'nt it confuse your students to hit one handers on approach shots and than 2 handers on the baseline? There is no guarantees later on that they will even develop or have the talent to develop a one hander so why confuse them on something they may never really get anyway as apposed to teaching them at a young age (7-9)? I'm in a quandry over your statements TCF.........
 
Not making any claims other than the fact that they have good coaches who apparently teach excellent fundamentals as eveident by the young raw talent that was there when I visited. 2HB is fine with me, but I'm not sure I agree with your analysys, and I'm quite sure Hennin started a one hander at a very young age and most certainly not 10-12 even though she played Soccer.
My only question to you is, would'nt it confuse your students to hit one handers on approach shots and than 2 handers on the baseline? There is no guarantees later on that they will even develop or have the talent to develop a one hander so why confuse them on something they may never really get anyway as apposed to teaching them at a young age (7-9)? I'm in a quandry over your statements TCF.........

This is how Rick Macci teaches it. All the kids start out with two handed backhands. He feeds them balls at the baseline, then has them approach for short balls. At first he reminds them to release to one hand for the slice. Soon they do it on their own.

There is a video on tennis resources showing him doing this drill with 2 kids. I will post it next time I see it. Its not confusing, all top two handed players will release to a one handed backhand slice when needed.

The reason we do not teach the one handed backhand at that young age is the muscle imbalance can pull the spine out of alignment. The one handed players use their dominant side for both forehands and backhands. You must then do exercises to correct this imbalance, which we do with older kids who switch to the one hander. Below is how a sports medicine doctor explained it:

""The problem with the spine happens because the child is developing the muscles only on one side of the body if she plays a one-handed backhand. These stronger muscles then “pull” the spine towards them since they are stronger than the muscles on the other side of the spine. Thus, the spine gets under a lot of pressure and begins to curve.

The exercises need to be practiced before the problem. If the child is training regularly (competitive player) then it’s almost certain that the spine would eventually curve and become problematic.

The main purpose of the preventative exercises if to strengthen the other side of the body so that the muscle pull on the spine is equal from both sides."

notennis.....if 6th Sense has 7 year olds who are hitting topspin one handers from the baseline, that means they have been doing them since age 5-6. I hope to goodness they are on top of the prevention of the spinal curves.
 
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notennis

Rookie
This is how Rick Macci teaches it. All the kids start out with two handed backhands. He feeds them balls at the baseline, then has them approach for short balls. At first he reminds them to release to one hand for the slice. Soon they do it on their own.

There is a video on tennis resources showing him doing this drill with 2 kids. I will post it next time I see it. Its not confusing, all top two handed players will release to a one handed backhand slice when needed.

The reason we do not teach the one handed backhand at that young age is the muscle imbalance can pull the spine out of alignment. The one handed players use their dominant side for both forehands and backhands. You must then do exercises to correct this imbalance, which we do with older kids who switch to the one hander. Below is how a sports medicine doctor explained it:

""The problem with the spine happens because the child is developing the muscles only on one side of the body if she plays a one-handed backhand. These stronger muscles then “pull” the spine towards them since they are stronger than the muscles on the other side of the spine. Thus, the spine gets under a lot of pressure and begins to curve.

The exercises need to be practiced before the problem. If the child is training regularly (competitive player) then it’s almost certain that the spine would eventually curve and become problematic.

The main purpose of the preventative exercises if to strengthen the other side of the body so that the muscle pull on the spine is equal from both sides."

notennis.....if 6th Sense has 7 year olds who are hitting topspin one handers from the baseline, that means they have been doing them since age 5-6. I hope to goodness they are on top of the prevention of the spinal curves.

Good input, thanks........
 

chalkflewup

Hall of Fame
Hmmmm...the 2 students I've seen from SS both have 2 handed backhands.

If you're looking for something in the Orlando area, I would consider HPI or Richard Schmidt. HPI is not too big and they have great facilities. Lorenzo Beltraime is a solid coach.
 
Hmmmm...the 2 students I've seen from SS both have 2 handed backhands.

If you're looking for something in the Orlando area, I would consider HPI or Richard Schmidt. HPI is not too big and they have great facilities. Lorenzo Beltraime is a solid coach.

My hunch is that since the Sixth Sense is backed by Henin and her coach that some may assume it is full of one handed backhanding children.

I highly doubt that is the case.
 

notennis

Rookie
My hunch is that since the Sixth Sense is backed by Henin and her coach that some may assume it is full of one handed backhanding children.

I highly doubt that is the case.

TCF, it appewars you buy into and try to take an approach once again like you are Mr Tennis and everyone should believe everything you say. I know my credibility is a little tainted from my bouts with Mr Baughyman in the past. Please believe me when I say this that there was a kid there (1) kid I saw that was hitting 1 handers with medium flat balls if thats what there called. Regardless of Henins background I saw this with my own eyes and asked the age of the kid which the reply was 7......Now, was she an academy kid, i'm not sure. I will say she was european if you want to verify. This happend approximately 8-9 months ago. You and Chalkflewpoopoo need to not make statements with no facts or I will have to start calling you a Dummy like the rest..........
 
TCF, it appewars you buy into and try to take an approach once again like you are Mr Tennis and everyone should believe everything you say. I know my credibility is a little tainted from my bouts with Mr Baughyman in the past. Please believe me when I say this that there was a kid there (1) kid I saw that was hitting 1 handers with medium flat balls if thats what there called. Regardless of Henins background I saw this with my own eyes and asked the age of the kid which the reply was 7......Now, was she an academy kid, i'm not sure. I will say she was european if you want to verify. This happend approximately 8-9 months ago. You and Chalkflewpoopoo need to not make statements with no facts or I will have to start calling you a Dummy like the rest..........

Comments not addressed to you. Merely adding information to a thread about Sixth Sense. In fact one of the parents at our tennis club was talking the other day about wanting his son to go to a one hander and joked that he should send him over to Henin's place.

I am sure more than a few tennis people think the Sixth Sense must only teach 1HB. Like you saw, one kid use it but most of the rest did not.
 

notennis

Rookie
Comments not addressed to you. Merely adding information to a thread about Sixth Sense. In fact one of the parents at our tennis club was talking the other day about wanting his son to go to a one hander and joked that he should send him over to Henin's place.

I am sure more than a few tennis people think the Sixth Sense must only teach 1HB. Like you saw, one kid use it but most of the rest did not.

Very true......
 

chalkflewup

Hall of Fame
Notennis,

My information is factual. I know 2 of the students at SS... Both very nice kids with 2 handed backhands. That's all.
 

notennis

Rookie
Notennis,

My information is factual. I know 2 of the students at SS... Both very nice kids with 2 handed backhands. That's all.

The Kid I saw had a one handed backhand at age 7. As I explainerd to TCF, I'm not sure if the young girl was boarding at the Academy or a visitor but none the less she had a one handed backhand. I asked her age, thats it. Whats your point Chalkflewpoopoo? I have no reason to lie. What, do you think I try to impress wannabees like you, don't think so. Like I said to TCF, make a call and dig hard and ask all the pros /teachers or better yet ask Pat Etchebarry whos out there training the pro athletes, he was standing with me watching this. You make it seem like it is impossible to find kids with one handers at age 7. Please don't be a dummy.........Chalkflewdoodoo.......
 
The Kid I saw had a one handed backhand at age 7. As I explainerd to TCF, I'm not sure if the young girl was boarding at the Academy or a visitor but none the less she had a one handed backhand. I asked her age, thats it. Whats your point Chalkflewpoopoo? I have no reason to lie. What, do you think I try to impress wannabees like you, don't think so. Like I said to TCF, make a call and dig hard and ask all the pros /teachers or better yet ask Pat Etchebarry whos out there training the pro athletes, he was standing with me watching this. You make it seem like it is impossible to find kids with one handers at age 7. Please don't be a dummy.........Chalkflewdoodoo.......

Hey notennis....is Pat Etch angry about Agassi's book? He was the guy Gil Reyes was referring to in it. Pat had Andre doing all sorts of Olympic lifts, etc. Pat left town and Andre went to Reyes and showed him the routine. Reyes ripped it up and said Pat was clueless. Andre fired him when he came back from his trip.

Be interesting to get those two trainers in the same room!
 

chalkflewup

Hall of Fame
I didn't question you at all. I merely said I know 2 students there with 2 handed backhands and you go into name calling mode. What else is new? I will not stoop to your level.
 

EP1998

Semi-Pro
Hmmmm...the 2 students I've seen from SS both have 2 handed backhands.

If you're looking for something in the Orlando area, I would consider HPI or Richard Schmidt. HPI is not too big and they have great facilities. Lorenzo Beltraime is a solid coach.

Lorenzo is one of the best technical coaches out there. I think Kelvin Rivera (who used to work there but is now at Lake Nona) is also very good.
 

notennis

Rookie
Hey notennis....is Pat Etch angry about Agassi's book? He was the guy Gil Reyes was referring to in it. Pat had Andre doing all sorts of Olympic lifts, etc. Pat left town and Andre went to Reyes and showed him the routine. Reyes ripped it up and said Pat was clueless. Andre fired him when he came back from his trip.

Be interesting to get those two trainers in the same room!

I would definately say that Pat is much better with Football Players than Tennis. It seems he had the same situation with Jankovic. Her complaint was she was training to hard with him and that caused her to not stay at the top and consequently the top of her game. Pat is an Olympion and helped many Tennis players including Currier who completely endorses him along with Henin who he trained and helped her to become a top player. Andre and Gill just matched up perfectly I think. Andre is a little deep and carefree no doubt based on his style fits well with Gill. Pat is way more experienced and structured which in no way fits Andre's style, but Gill is more from the good old fashioned way of training. I hardly doubt Gill could work with Pro Football players the way Pat does, just my opinion.....Can't bash an Olympion like Pat and if they were in a room together talking about training that would be pretty amazing with both view points. If they tangled, I would take the old man to put a beat down on Gill.
 
I would definately say that Pat is much better with Football Players than Tennis. It seems he had the same situation with Jankovic. Her complaint was she was training to hard with him and that caused her to not stay at the top and consequently the top of her game. Pat is an Olympion and helped many Tennis players including Currier who completely endorses him along with Henin who he trained and helped her to become a top player. Andre and Gill just matched up perfectly I think. Andre is a little deep and carefree no doubt based on his style fits well with Gill. Pat is way more experienced and structured which in no way fits Andre's style, but Gill is more from the good old fashioned way of training. I hardly doubt Gill could work with Pro Football players the way Pat does, just my opinion.....Can't bash an Olympion like Pat and if they were in a room together talking about training that would be pretty amazing with both view points. If they tangled, I would take the old man to put a beat down on Gill.

I think you summed it up perfectly. But I'll take Reyes in the fight, he was an accomplished wrestler and has 100 pounds on Pat!
 
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