8 Golden Factors why Djokovic is going to get absolutely OBLITERATED TOMORROW

1. Djokovic relies heavily upon his movement. How is he able to move along the baseline and keep with Federer when Roger is attacking on the front-foot if he is struggling to keep footing? The area of the baseline is extremely dry and slippery. Rollerblading on ice will be Djokovic.

2. The entire crowd are going to be with Federer. Everytime he is in a grandslam final, it's a home stadium for him. The Davis Cup pro - fed atmosphere will enable him to serve clutch with angle and variety on the big points.

3. Djokovic doesn;t have the sort of patterns of footwork required for moving efficiently on grass. A lot of the time Djokovic is an efficient mover. Meaning he gives himself much needed time to prepare for every groundie. That time enables him to gain an edge his opponent. His preparation around the ball with his feet on grass is basically not the same as it is on hard-court. (Which is how I think you believe the rallies will pan like, as they do there)

4. Novak hasn't won a grandslam in over 18 months, I know that is banal to mention, but it is a crucial in assessing whether he will play with feedom or tension. Against Dimitrov, during parts, he looked very stiff and nervous. You could see. He isn't in the best state of mind possible.

5. Federer has momentum on his side. He's cruised through the draw. You talk about Djokovic being in a better baseline rythm, but Federer is in a better serving rhythm and the crucial number one factor in grass-court tennis is the serve. Everywhere else it is the return of serve.

6. Since teaming up with Eddberg, Federer has learned better how to anticipate when the best time is to come to net. This will enable him to keep rallies short and cut Djokovic off from in his defenses of the Federer serve and forehand. Eddberg and him have been playing little net games in and around the service box, faking and outfoxing your opponent at the net. Now Federer knows how to read where his opponent THINKS the volley is going to go, or knows how to 'dummie' into a direction making his opponent think it's going to go somewhere it isn't.

7. Federer will find it easier to smother Djokovic with his serve and forehand one two punch as Djokovic's defenses are cut short from being handicapped at the baseline by the dry slippery court.

8. Dimitrov plays a Federer style game, only a little less aggressive shall we say, weaker court positioning and obviously a weaker serve and forehand. Logic tells you if Djokovic is struggling to contain Dimitrov on a grass court, Federer's successful impersonator, then he'll surely, in equal measure, struggle even more to contain Federer himself.
 

kishnabe

Talk Tennis Guru
Don't set yourself up for disappointment. I am rooting for Federer but I understand that Djokovic can become a pain.
 

TeamOB

Professional
If Federr0r shows up tomorrow (which is a significant possibility, don't forget that Fed is not nearly as consistent as he was 3 years ago), Djokovic will cruise. An Olympics Final type match is a possibility. Fed could simply not show up. If Fed shows up to play, he will win a close match against Nole (if Nole is average or below). If both guys show up at their best, I think Nole will edge him out.
 

winstonlim8

Professional
I like both of them and I will be rooting for both tonight but I don't think it is going to be as easy as it sounds. Djokovic has been to more Slam finals than Fed recently, regardless of whether Djokovic actually won any of them, so he's going to come out fighting and the guy is all heart. I just hope he doesn't choke. Federer on the other hand, will want No. 18 if only so's he can retire on a winning note (and get another huge endorsement pay cheque) so he's going to give it everything he's got, too. I only hope he doesn't go walkabout if he's leading two sets up.

Whoever wins, I am praying for a glorious slugfest with lots of all-court magic from Federer and an equal amount of baseline sorcery from Djokovic...but I wouldn't complain if Nole decided to take the fight to Roger and attacked from all over the court to force Roger to come up with some demonically deadly defensive drama of his own, too!
 
Would you bet something on tomorrow's match? You seem so sure of yourself.
Been there and placed it. Will have my feet up on the sofa leg rest and sipping on a Bacardi.

I am feeling too confident though and need soemone to give me reasons why I should be slightly worried?
 
=If both guys show up at their best, I think Nole will edge him out.
I appreciate that input, but you can't just say that without explaining why.

It's your opinion, but an explanation for why it is your opinion, at the very least will be needed brother.
 

MTF07

Semi-Pro
If Federr0r shows up tomorrow (which is a significant possibility, don't forget that Fed is not nearly as consistent as he was 3 years ago), Djokovic will cruise. An Olympics Final type match is a possibility. Fed could simply not show up. If Fed shows up to play, he will win a close match against Nole (if Nole is average or below). If both guys show up at their best, I think Nole will edge him out.
Federer's best grass court tennis level far exceeds Novak.
 
With the roof over the conditions become humid and the ball travels through the air faster. (Aerodynamic) and also, with humidity, the grass becomes moistured and thus a little bit more slick.... so if the roof goes over, it will be fast.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aTBnapGXEs

It is predicted by the British weather forecast that there will be on and off showers through the day.
 

FanOfLu

Professional
Reality will hit hard for Federer who has been cruising on his cakewalk draw and scheduling advantage. Djokovic will send this pensioner back to his rest home for good.
 

ctoth666

Banned
I dont think it will be easy tomorrow and I am a fed fan.The key thing for federer is his serve and his slice
I think that the court conditions, believe it or not, favor Federer more than they did, say, in 2012. The match, played on Federer's terms, could be a straightforward proposition, I feel. If he gets up quickly, and gets in a serving rhythm right away...game over?

God. I am very excited for tomorrow. It's just...there's so much nostalgia with Federer, and I've never really cared for Nadal or Murray or Novak. He plays with grace and style, and when he wins it's a win for the game. There's really no mystery why he is the most popular player ever, and why he will be the crowd favorite over Novak. Just go on YouTube and watch any of the videos of him laughing uncontrollably. They are infectious. I was always a fan of Roger from the getgo, and I thought maybe it was because I was a frontrunner, but no. Even through the past 4 years and the ups and downs, he's been my favorite player. His tennis is just more interesting than everyone else's, and I want him to win very badly. It's clear that the overwhelming majority of people do, rightly so. I do fear tennis without him, and Dimitrov may be the only hope.
 
I think that the court conditions, believe it or not, favor Federer more than they did, say, in 2012. The match, played on Federer's terms, could be a straightforward proposition, I feel. If he gets up quickly, and gets in a serving rhythm right away...game over?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0t_QYgjLYDg

Federer loving the slippery blue clay at the Madrid Masters in 2012.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dh-t2vh1Aao

Djokovic detesting the slippery blue clay at the Madrid Masters in 2012.

How are they each going to fare with the slippery 2nd week green grass at the All England Championships, in Wimbledon 2014?

The words, 'go' and 'figure' spring to mind.
 
1. Djokovic relies heavily upon his movement. How is he able to move along the baseline and keep with Federer when Roger is attacking on the front-foot if he is struggling to keep footing? The area of the baseline is extremely dry and slippery. Rollerblading on ice will be Djokovic.

2. The entire crowd are going to be with Federer. Everytime he is in a grandslam final, it's a home stadium for him. The Davis Cup pro - fed atmosphere will enable him to serve clutch with angle and variety on the big points.

3. Djokovic doesn;t have the sort of patterns of footwork required for moving efficiently on grass. A lot of the time Djokovic is an efficient mover. Meaning he gives himself much needed time to prepare for every groundie. That time enables him to gain an edge his opponent. His preparation around the ball with his feet on grass is basically not the same as it is on hard-court. (Which is how I think you believe the rallies will pan like, as they do there)

4. Novak hasn't won a grandslam in over 18 months, I know that is banal to mention, but it is a crucial in assessing whether he will play with feedom or tension. Against Dimitrov, during parts, he looked very stiff and nervous. You could see. He isn't in the best state of mind possible.

5. Federer has momentum on his side. He's cruised through the draw. You talk about Djokovic being in a better baseline rythm, but Federer is in a better serving rhythm and the crucial number one factor in grass-court tennis is the serve. Everywhere else it is the return of serve.

6. Since teaming up with Eddberg, Federer has learned better how to anticipate when the best time is to come to net. This will enable him to keep rallies short and cut Djokovic off from in his defenses of the Federer serve and forehand. Eddberg and him have been playing little net games in and around the service box, faking and outfoxing your opponent at the net. Now Federer knows how to read where his opponent THINKS the volley is going to go, or knows how to 'dummie' into a direction making his opponent think it's going to go somewhere it isn't.

7. Federer will find it easier to smother Djokovic with his serve and forehand one two punch as Djokovic's defenses are cut short from being handicapped at the baseline by the dry slippery court.

8. Dimitrov plays a Federer style game, only a little less aggressive shall we say, weaker court positioning and obviously a weaker serve and forehand. Logic tells you if Djokovic is struggling to contain Dimitrov on a grass court, Federer's successful impersonator, then he'll surely, in equal measure, struggle even more to contain Federer himself.
that's all good. BUT, it actually works to Djokovic's advantage. because he thrives being the underdog. so the more "golden reasons" you propose, the better it is for Djokovic.
 

tlm

G.O.A.T.
This dream thread will not last much longer, it is going to be funny to see the op lose his money. Do you guys think that fed is playing raonic again or what?
 
that's all good. BUT, it actually works to Djokovic's advantage. because he thrives being the underdog. so the more "golden reasons" you propose, the better it is for Djokovic.
Another flawed piece of stupid logic by yourself. Bravo.

Question for yourself now.... Think ...

'Does Djokovic actually realise he is the underdog?'

Wait.. no... lemme phrase it better for someone like you that lives in a world of theory, rather than a world of reality........

'Does Djokovic actually CONSIDER himself as the underdog?'

He's won most of their last encounters.

There's that old saying in tennis. It's 'easier when you're the underdog than when you're favourite' ... playing with nothing to lose as the underdog and everything to gain....


You just can't play the same tennis when you're the favourite tho, as you're a little less loose and more tense. You end up playing not to lose, rather to win.

I get all that^

HOWEVER... there is no evidence to support he considers himself the underdog.
 
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This dream thread will not last much longer, it is going to be funny to see the op lose his money. Do you guys think that fed is playing raonic again or what?
Listen Henman, you wouldn't know anything about competing in Wimbledon finals, you never reached one. Remember that.
 
if djokovic plays his best, I think he will win anyway. What do u think mate?
Is that the furthest you can go? lol

Nothing regarding how they matchup interms of their strengths and weaknesses? How do their strengths and weaknesses meet against each other on grass? Their styles? Go into a tiny bit of depth atleast.

lol Really?

Is THAT, THIS, the best this board has to offer?
 

The Green Mile

Bionic Poster
Is that the furthest you can go? lol

Nothing regarding how they matchup interms of their strengths and weaknesses meet against each other on grass?

lol Really?

Is THAT, THIS, the best this board has to offer?
Nolberic and I are good mates, so it was really just a freindly question. Maybe you should try and find some.....
 
Question to the Nole fans or the people that just think Nole will win:

How do you SEE Djokovic winning? In what aspects will he win the match? Talk rallies, serves, returns... something...????????
 

Noleberic123

G.O.A.T.
Am I on this board for to mingle and make friends? Or am I on this board to talk about tennis with fellow enthusiasts of the game?

Lemme think about that one?
The green Mile and I always had great tennis conversations in the past. That lead to us being friends, I am also friends with other posters on this board, because we talk tennis almost daily.
 
The green Mile and I always had great tennis conversations in the past. That lead to us being friends, I am also friends with other posters on this board, because we talk tennis almost daily.
Cool.

Do we need all need to exchange friendship bracelets and **** around here before we can discuss tennis then?

Invite me into your crap circle of vacuous fun, please?
 
It doesn't work like that..... you have to introduce yourself first.....go ahead....
I'm a young man from London, which is part of England and which is part of the United Kingdom... we are that snobbish country just diagonally above France that tries to police the world, but fail miserably. I've both had spells playing as a player for my University (College) and coaching as a coach, momentarily whilst on studying for my degree.

Tennis is one of my loves. Federer, Sampras, Fernando Gonzalez and Kyrigos are my favourite players. I also love working out and being vain.

Fancy going out with me now?
 

The Green Mile

Bionic Poster
I'm a young man from London, which is part of England and which is part of the United Kingdom... we are that snobbish country just diagonally above France that tries to police the world.I've both had spells playing as a player for my University (College) and coaching momentarily whilst on studying for my degree.

Tennis is one of my loves. Federer, Sampras, Fernando Gonzalez and Kyrigos are my favourite players. I also love working out and being vain.

Will you go out with now?
*claps... Very good! But I can't be bothered talking right now. Laters!

And with the going out part, you seem a bit to psycho for me... but thanks anyway!
 
I'm a young man from London, which is part of England and which is part of the United Kingdom... we are that snobbish country just diagonally above France that tries to police the world, but fail miserably. I've both had spells playing as a player for my University (College) and coaching as a coach, momentarily whilst on studying for my degree.

Tennis is one of my loves. Federer, Sampras, Fernando Gonzalez and Kyrigos are my favourite players. I also love working out and being vain.

Fancy going out with me now?
Oh, oh..........girly pants is angry......:mad:
 
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