8 Golden Factors why Djokovic is going to get absolutely OBLITERATED TOMORROW

Tbh, there was also very little choking that went on, in the match. Considering the magnitude of the occasion, I can't fault Djokovic for not making 4 first serves to help him serve out the match. It was Federer's old-school brilliance that got him the break, taking the backhand on earlier being on the front-foot. Unfortunately come the 5th set, Federer went back to getting into backhand to backhand cross-court training drills with Novak, who has the best backhand of all time. Federer needed to play the match on his terms, at times he wasn't being allowed to, but at other times he was CHOOSING not to and naively think Djokovic was just going to give him a forehand.

Even with the forehand, it's not the weapon it used to be. Simple as
you do a great job with post-event rationalization.
 

FanOfLu

Professional
Reality will hit hard for Federer who has been cruising on his cakewalk draw and scheduling advantage. Djokovic will send this pensioner back to his rest home for good.
Beneficiary of cakewalk draw finally succumb to the cruelness of the reality.:twisted:
 

pjonesy

Professional
Semi finals and Finals of grandslams are the most incredibly difficult to predict, because 80% of it is psychological, rather more than just technical.

I was marginally wrong. Mostly due to over-estimating and over-believing Federer's forehand would be back to what it used to be between 2002 and 2010.

I think the shot that decided it really though and gave Novak the extra, push he needed was the point at 4-3 federer serving. He just grabbed hold of some momentum, winning a contentious hawkeye review by the most miniscule of margins, banged in a heavy first serve which had the gymnast 3/4 split lunging, achors of space and time to nail the forehand into the corner inside out and he goes for the inside in and misses in the tramlines. Also noting Novak had already committed to sending his weight and body that way. Federer's mind buckled under pressure and he lost the tiebreak.

That was a lot more pinnacle than many give credit for. Federer at 2 sets to 1 up versus Djokovic 2 sets to 1 up. You'd never imagine Federer being able to maintain the level needed for 2 whole sets straight, without dropping his intensity and spraying a few errors. Had he been 2 sets to 1 up however, well.... then he may have had enough.

Ultimately though, I just don't see what WEAPONS Fedderer has anymore, even on slicker surfaces, other than his serve to hurt the top 4 players in the world?

Without a finishing shot, you're ****ed. No finishing shot = no more grandslam or even masters series titles. Perhaps the concentration or hand eye coordination has diminished? OR perhaps everyone defends that little bit better in these days than compared to the mid 2000s and he is more concerned about the forehand and less free, loose and flowing on it?


I think it's true that Federer hesitated on his forehand plenty today. But even when he set up everything he wanted, he was still missing the finishing forehand. He certainly still has weapons, but I think he lacks the confidence to use them at the perfect time. How many times did Federer look shocked that he was able to pull off an incredible volley or shot? The kind of shots that he would hit one after another 5 years ago. Under pressure, he might have missed 2 out of 5 incredible shots a few years back. I get the impression that he is surprised when he can pull 1 miracle shot off at a time. I think his game is not free flowing, right now. Federer is still dangerous enough to win Majors, but he cannot take charge of a match against the top players under pressure. He will have to find a new way to win.
 
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I think it's true that Federer hesitated on his forehand plenty today. But even when he set up everything he wanted, he was still missing the finishing forehand. He certainly still has weapons, but I think he lacks the confidence to use them at the perfect time. How many times did Federer look shocked that he was able to pull off an incredible volley or shot? The kind of shots that he would hit one after another 5 years ago. Under pressure, he might have missed 2 out of 5 incredible shots a few years back. I get the impression that he is surprised when he can pull 1 miracle shot off at a time. I think his game is not free flowing, right now. Federer is still dangerous enough to win Majors, but he cannot take charge of a match against the top players under pressure. He will have to find a new way to win.
Excellent post. My after-thoughts more or less exactly too.

He's almost lost a little bit of inherent belief about his ability. That;s why he's looking shocked, whenever he pulls it off. Who knows, may be he has another grand-slam in him, Wimbledon or the US open are his only available choices if we are being realistic. The other two are naturally too slow for him to have any sort of impact on, at this age, with a single handed backhand, these well oiled athlete players of today's game.

Nadal obviously is the match-up issue, Djokovic the other issue, Murray potentially if he finds his feet again and we won't forget Wawrinka. Aside from those 4, he shouldn't be losing to anybody, currently at either Wimby or the US open, not with the way he's recaptured his game.

I was upset for tennis he couldn't mark off a career with an 8th Wimbledon and 18th Grandslam, but there you go. :(

Well played Novak.
 
Your credibility of anything tennis related just went down the toilet drain. Good call moron.
Could have easily gone the other way.

Calling a match as close as this wasn't easy.

I'll admit a few things:

1) Didn't expect Novak to serve as well as that
2) Didn't expect Novak to be as consistently aggressive as that
3) Expected Federer to be a little more mentally tough than that, on grass (He was I suppose too, just wasn't enough)

I'm a moron? lol Nice little report to moderator. Enjoy the 2 day ban silly kid. lol
 
I think the title was a bit OTT, but his points were quite well thought out and made sense. I think he knows a bit about this game.
Thanks fella. Appreciated.

Obviously I hate to make a striking topic head-line in order to draw/turn heads to create discussion.

Just making a thread called; 'Why I think Federer will beat Djokovic tomorrow' was never going to get people interested in discussing the match. Not really.
 
Could have easily gone the other way.

Calling a match as close as this wasn't easy.

I'll admit a few things:

1) Didn't expect Novak to serve as well as that
2) Didn't expect Novak to be as consistently aggressive as that
3) Expected Federer to be a little more mentally tough than that, on grass (He was I suppose too, just wasn't enough)

I'm a moron? lol Nice little report to moderator. Enjoy the 2 day ban silly kid. lol
you have called others far worse. don't be hypocritical.
 

World Beater

Hall of Fame
Its easy to point out after the fact that someone else is wrong especially when you didn't offer a prediction of your own...

give the op some credit for making a pick and sticking his neck out backed up with some reasons as well.

To me what decided the match honestly was the way djokovic served. Federer just couldnt get into his returns games with any degree of consistency bar the 4th set which was just an outlier and a crazy one at that.

Federer himself served out of his mind today especially in the third set, but he just got very few looks into djokovic's serve game. Djokvoic doesnt usually serve THAT WELL. Federer in his prime HAS served that well.

To me this match has so many similarities to 2008. Federer in that match also served like an animal and was blasting his fh in the final three sets. But he just couldnt get into nadal's serve games because his return just let him down.

i expected djokovic to have the upper hand from the baseline so that was not surprising...
 

booson

Professional
Thanks fella. Appreciated.

Obviously I hate to make a striking topic head-line in order to draw/turn heads to create discussion.

Just making a thread called; 'Why I think Federer will beat Djokovic tomorrow' was never going to get people interested in discussing the match. Not really.
As others have said, you're good at rationalization. It was just not the 'head line' the thing you just 'made' more 'striking'. It was the whole arrogant and rude persona you adopted the whole thread. It was embarrasing to watch.
 
BallsforTennis is by far and away the biggest fantasist anyone anywhere has had the misfortune of meeting.

If you want to get rich quick, oppose his betting "tips".
 

dr325i

G.O.A.T.
Could have easily gone the other way.

Calling a match as close as this wasn't easy.

I'll admit a few things:

1) Didn't expect Novak to serve as well as that
2) Didn't expect Novak to be as consistently aggressive as that
3) Expected Federer to be a little more mentally tough than that, on grass (He was I suppose too, just wasn't enough)

I'm a moron? lol Nice little report to moderator. Enjoy the 2 day ban silly kid. lol
You should be reported to Mods for starting something this stupid. And anyone posting 10+ posts per day on average should be banned as usually posts get increasingly ridiculous.

YES, could have gone either way. That is NOT what you called it in your OP. In fact, could have been the other way around if Novak closed it at 6:2 in the 4th...

Did you bid on the match and how much did your daddy lose??
 
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Backspin1183

G.O.A.T.
I guess OP forgot that Federer is past his prime. A 27 year old Federer, however, would have cleaned the clock of this choking Novak.
 

powerangle

Legend
Could have easily gone the other way.

Calling a match as close as this wasn't easy.

I'll admit a few things:

1) Didn't expect Novak to serve as well as that
2) Didn't expect Novak to be as consistently aggressive as that
3) Expected Federer to be a little more mentally tough than that, on grass (He was I suppose too, just wasn't enough)

I'm a moron? lol Nice little report to moderator. Enjoy the 2 day ban silly kid. lol
Thanks fella. Appreciated.

Obviously I hate to make a striking topic head-line in order to draw/turn heads to create discussion.

Just making a thread called; 'Why I think Federer will beat Djokovic tomorrow' was never going to get people interested in discussing the match. Not really.
The point is not that you made a wrong prediction or you that you made a striking headline...it was the fact that you were rude. Anyone who disagreed with you in their predictions...you called them out and slammed them.

You were smug and now you have to eat your crow. You could have made your prediction and be civil about it, but you didn't.
 

booson

Professional
Apologising for what? Having an opinion and not being a fence sitter.

Suck out.
That's obviously not the reason and if I have to repeat it, it's obvious your internet personality is blinding you or making you a little dumb. Either way, have a nice day.
 
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