8th Gen Yonex Ezone

Mischko

Professional
Not always. Check Rublev racket Weight /Swingweight ratio Pros very often put alot weight in the handle to increase stability on returns / volleys without losing maneuverability
I was being a bit sarcastic

Rublev developed his tennis with a 330g Wilson at a sw of 335, so when he switched to Gravity he kept that, same for Medvedev and Shapovalov
 
Stiff or soft doesn't matter for that...

What matters for the stability you are talking about is twistweight and balance
e.g. a high twistweight racket will be more stable on impact, compared to another racket on returns

Second thing with balance - you can maneuver a headlight balanced racket better, compared to a head heavy

But I am 100% sure that a 70RA racket with high twistweight will feel better on return than a 58RA with low twistweight
Agree on that

That's why ezone 98 is better option than 98tour Imo

Its easy to customize 98 to 98tour Swing weight Twist weight and Static weight without making it more head heavy

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smalahove

Hall of Fame
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An racket expert who is serving with an eastern grip;)

Ps and to keep things clear: most of racket reviewers are much worse players then this guy.

From the clips where I've seen him serve (without his ankle injury), I don't see how this is relevant tbh.
And you have this, as well:

"Maybe you didn't know, but some of the greatest servers of all time served with a slight forehand grip, for example Boris Becker and Patrick Rafter."
Nikola Aracic, Intuitive tennis

 
I was being a bit sarcastic

Rublev developed his tennis with a 330g Wilson at a sw of 335, so when he switched to Gravity he kept that, same for Medvedev and Shapovalov
Yes and he keept the swingweight but increased static weight to deal with heavier shots.

All in all.its always more the player than the racket and specs
 
From the clips where I've seen him serve (without his ankle injury), I don't see how this is relevant tbh.
And you have this, as well:

"Maybe you didn't know, but some of the greatest servers of all time served with a slight forehand grip, for example Boris Becker and Patrick Rafter."
Nikola Aracic, Intuitive tennis

Their slight forehand grip is called Australian grip.

On this video this guy is changing the grip to full eastern in the middle od the serve. The grip causes whole body overtation instead foreward movement.

But like i said ive seen much worse guys testing rsckets
 
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artdeco

Semi-Pro
I have no idea what you’re talking about. You’re saying a lower powered, soft flexible racquet is going to return better on shots you’re not even swinging at?

How is softer going to give you more accuracy? Are you saying that for the .05 seconds the ball is on the racquet you’re going to feel what’s going on and make adjustments?
Yeah.
My VCore Pro 97D (soft) is a nightmare for returns.
My Pro Staff 90 (stiff) is effortless on returns. I just reach out and hit it.
 

Mischko

Professional
Pro Staffs are almost all between 67 and 70, and always have been, since early 90s, 6.0 85 and 90, 6.1 95 RF97A and PS97s, just like most top pro's Wilsons, Sampras, Federer, Nishikori, Tsitsipas, De Minaur etc were/are all at around 70RA

High stiffness is by default for a Pro Staff

Agassi had a racquet head, and sweetspot, the size of Jupiter, and was playing with - his words - "the heaviest frame and loosest tension you can get away with", while Djokovic and Murray, and others, compensate low flex with huge swingweight, 370-390, while this whole argument started in a way with your statement that sw of 325 is enough, and that stiffness isn't important at that swingweight. Sorry if I'm simplifying your initial sentence, I hope I'm not oversimplifying it
 
Pro Staffs are almost all between 67 and 70, and always have been, since early 90s, 6.0 85 and 90, 6.1 95 RF97A and PS97s, just like most top pro's Wilsons, Sampras, Federer, Nishikori, Tsitsipas, De Minaur etc were/are all at around 70RA

High stiffness is by default for a Pro Staff

Agassi had a racquet head, and sweetspot, the size of Jupiter, and was playing with - his words - "the heaviest frame and loosest tension you can get away with", while Djokovic and Murray, and others, compensate low flex with huge swingweight, 370-390, while this whole argument started in a way with your statement that sw of 325 is enough, and that stiffness isn't important at that swingweight. Sorry if I'm simplifying your initial sentence, I hope I'm not oversimplifying it
Funny i shered this views ( and have lead on each of my daily frames) until i get to know with some young players - and for them - 325Sw is enough (even with 65 frames) EOT Cheers
 

SinneGOAT

Legend
Just watched the rackets and runners review and I have to say I didn’t like his review. Usually he’s really good but this time I could tell he was just trying to say how amazing it was over the 2022. I have seen what he’s said before of the 2022 and none of the lambasting and critiques he said in this video were present there, such as it being stiff, launchy, bad feel. And his comment saying how the new version had better control than the 2022 but then went on to say it had better power than the 2022 was just weird. First review of his I didn’t like.
 

thenewbig3

Rookie
Just watched the rackets and runners review and I have to say I didn’t like his review. Usually he’s really good but this time I could tell he was just trying to say how amazing it was over the 2022. I have seen what he’s said before of the 2022 and none of the lambasting and critiques he said in this video were present there, such as it being stiff, launchy, bad feel. And his comment saying how the new version had better control than the 2022 but then went on to say it had better power than the 2022 was just weird. First review of his I didn’t like.

Ive given up on reviews in general because I realize reviewers are either too biased, too generic, too average technically or just plain nutty in some cases. If I like it visually and think of it as an option based on some positive thoughts from a few people I trust - I would just probably try it.
 

SinneGOAT

Legend
Ive given up on reviews in general because I realize reviewers are either too biased, too generic, too average technically or just plain nutty in some cases. If I like it visually and think of it as an option based on some positive thoughts from a few people I trust - I would just probably try it.
I still trust him just it seems like him and other reviewers seem to give their true opinions and feelings on a frame after the new version has come out. The same happened with the 2020 ezone where after the 2022 released many reviewers went back on their statements saying the 2020 was plush and had great feel with good control, now saying it was stiff and muted and way too much power. This review did put a damper on my trust in rackets and runners cause it was a little too heavy on gassing up the new ezone and putting down the 2022 with criticism he’s either been extremely light on or not said at all.
 
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dje31

Professional
It's always a crapshoot getting honest, unbiased reviews from shops that sell the product. They're trying to move units, so it's in their best interest in making it as positive as possible.

Otherwise, they're stuck with product, and risk upsetting their vendors.

Take with grains of salt and demo for yourself.
 

aaron_h27

Hall of Fame
Pro Staffs are almost all between 67 and 70, and always have been, since early 90s, 6.0 85 and 90, 6.1 95 RF97A and PS97s, just like most top pro's Wilsons, Sampras, Federer, Nishikori, Tsitsipas, De Minaur etc were/are all at around 70RA

High stiffness is by default for a Pro Staff

Agassi had a racquet head, and sweetspot, the size of Jupiter, and was playing with - his words - "the heaviest frame and loosest tension you can get away with", while Djokovic and Murray, and others, compensate low flex with huge swingweight, 370-390, while this whole argument started in a way with your statement that sw of 325 is enough, and that stiffness isn't important at that swingweight. Sorry if I'm simplifying your initial sentence, I hope I'm not oversimplifying it
Djokovic and Murray use 95 heads with dense string patterns, low flex and natural gut. A 98 with an open string pattern & full poly is perfectly playable at higher levels with 323-328 SW.

Even more so if you're mostly playing on fast hard courts
 

Mischko

Professional
Djokovic and Murray use 95 heads with dense string patterns, low flex and natural gut. If using a racket like Ezone 98, Pure Aero, etc...with full poly it's perfectly playable at higher levels with 325-330 SW.
If you go back a bit, that's exactly what I was saying, as a counterargument to the statement that 325 sw racquets don't need to be stiffer..
 
Could this racket attack the Ezone 98 now?

I never picked up a gravity and what was said abou the grav 98 isn't really my thing, but this thing will get in my bag just because of the paintjob, decent playability is a bonus.

If no ones comes up an says the EZ v8 is 150 percent of a racket the v7 was I won't even touch, I let that paintjob sink for a few days but it really got worse.
 

heavyD

Professional
Ha ha ha. Just when I was warming up a little to the new Ezone pj, today's released pics of the new Gravity kind if make this new Ezone pj look straight up ugly in comparison especially when Jonas is holding them together. That is how you do a paint job and I hope this Gravity is a big success if only to draw attention to a nice clean, gloss paint job.
 
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Could this racket attack the Ezone 98 now?

The racket probably plays great and people would love it but for me it looks dull at least on video
Previous version of gravity is my fav current Head Paintjob but this is one looks like they mixed colours of Pro tour and Pro tour lite but in a boring way.
Love classic looking glossy heads but here something is missing imo

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Seen pictures It looks much better and more.interesting then on the video
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heavyD

Professional
Could this racket attack the Ezone 98 now?

It's a more classic feeling frame even if it's reportedly quite powerful for a 98. Not sure it will be popular with the ladies but probably be pretty popular with high end players looking for classic feel with modern power. I will buy one just for the paint job and if I really like it that's a huge bonus.
 

ProphetWild

New User
The minolon is interesting. Could just be marketing but wonder if they will replace/combine it with Servo Filter in the next vcore/percept, or even use it full frame in the next Regna to make it more "kingly"
 
Lol, Luca literally has a recovery boot on his forward foot which you cropped out here. He's playing with a damaged left ankle, hard to judge his grip when he can barely place weight on his lead foot.
For me is a back foot aka right

Not to hard to judge the grip - its simple eastern but lets say its all injury related ;)
 
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TennisManiac

Hall of Fame
To be fair he said 59RA. Most number I have read for the 2025 EZ98 are 62RA.

Its possible to have more power at low stiffness. Stiff hoop especially towards the top. With a flexible throat and firm handle. If it can flex into the ball a tremendous amount of power can be produces.
Not likely
 

KC!

Hall of Fame
I know a UTR 11 playing with a Clash- currently the #2 for a D1 school as a freshman. Phenomenal player, and I don't even think he knows what he uses haha.
They just had a 18 boys level 1 tournament at my club & there was a UTR 11 kid playing with the Clash. 36 ranked junior in the country ripping with it.
 

sajlent555

Rookie
jesus guys, you don't even see the racket while you swing and play XDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

who cares if Gravity 98 has a top notch paintjob if it's worse than Ezone 98 v8 in terms of playabilty

that's why I sold my Head Speed Legend MP. Yeah it looks great but it plays worse than ugly Tecnifibre Tempo 298 Iga.

If you like playing with a sluggish and clunky racket. You'll be hard pressed to find anyone above 4.0 playing with one of those grandpa rackets.
rofl :-D
 
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I, who now play with various Ezone 100 (Windsor Japan, Osaka, 2022, 2024), am a bit torn between new Gravity and Ezone.

I hard decided that I want that Ezone 98 Tour (I always liked 98 Tour better than 98, but need more forgiveness for defending) because the new edition will be more feasible. But I don't like the new PJ very much.

After seeing the gloss Ultra Pro-like Gravity paintjob, I am really tempted to just take the Gravity. But I didn't like the old MP/Pro because they were sluggish, while I play all court and my volleys are my weapon.

Do you guys have similar take?

Ha ha ha. Just when I was warming up a little to the new Ezone pj, today's released pics of the new Gravity kind if make this new Ezone pj look straight up ugly in comparison especially when Jonas is holding them together. That is how you do a paint job and I hope this Gravity is a big success if only to draw attention to a nice clean, gloss paint job.
 
I, who now play with various Ezone 100 (Windsor Japan, Osaka, 2022, 2024), am a bit torn between new Gravity and Ezone.

I hard decided that I want that Ezone 98 Tour (I always liked 98 Tour better than 98, but need more forgiveness for defending) because the new edition will be more feasible. But I don't like the new PJ very much.

After seeing the gloss Ultra Pro-like Gravity paintjob, I am really tempted to just take the Gravity. But I didn't like the old MP/Pro because they were sluggish, while I play all court and my volleys are my weapon.

Do you guys have similar take?
Agree, I have played with the Gravity Pro V1 as my main sticks for nearly 5 years and I think it is the best out there as a weapon for baseliner/grinder. However, after trying to add more weapons to my game, especially volleys, Gravity Pro is no longer a viable option. It is too clunky or sluggish as you said and not suit for all-court style especially when approaching the net. I have then sold all 3 of my Gravity Pros earlier this year and now yoyoing between PA98, Ezone 98 (Aqua black) and the new Extreme Pro
 
jesus guys, you don't even see the racket while you swing and play XDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

who cares if Gravity 98 has a top notch paintjob if it's worse than Ezone 98 v8 in terms of playabilty

that's why I sold my Head Speed Legend MP. Yeah it looks great but it plays worse than ugly Tecnifibre Tempo 298 Iga.


rofl :-D
Well if i would choose by the looks i would Play with Blade in gloss. But i choose by performance play with Ezone 2022 and i dont really like the pj of them

Speaking of new Ezone some say its looks femine etc Well the same thing You can say about Agassi Pro Ones Courier Estusa etc Now after decades they are classic looking rackets
For me new Ezone is like Honda Civic may be kinda ugly but its cool. And after 30 years gonna be a classic probably oposite to some classy looking Audi

Ps i love classic paintjobs too and owe some classic rackets, i even polished some of them to look super glossy
 

Frans Bleker

Professional
Boys, I remember the good old times. The year was 2017 and Yonex brought us a green Ezone. People rebelled and we got a blue version not much later. I suggest we do the same thing for the V8 and hope for a new Aqua/Night black 'ish paint job. Who is in?
 
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