90-95, crisp, best stability

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90-95, crisp, best stability?

I have plush and pretty stable with the Becker London Tour. I have the Dunlop 4D100 - that's not a very stable stick, but if I swing it quickly enough it can handle some pretty hard hitting.

I want something crisper than the Becker and with a heck of a lot more plow than the Dunlop. I also want it to have 16 mains.

That has me gravitating toward a few sticks right now:
  • Head IG Prestige Pro
  • Wilson 6.1 95 16x18 [the new one]
  • Wilson Pro Staff 90 [the new one]
  • Wilson Pro Staff 6.0 85 [obviously the TW remake]
I hit with a friend's KFactor 6.1 95 16x18, and I like the plow and the "crushed it feeling" when you connect with the ball. It was also just the right weight and balance. That's pretty much what I'm looking for, but if the 90, the Head, or even the 85 has more of that feel, I'm probably pursuing that option.

I'm not looking to improve my game with a racquet choice. This is about enjoying the shot when hit on the screws. If I want forgiving, I'll pull out the London Tours. I really just want more plow than the 4D100, and something crisper than the London Tours to play with on occasion.

I have certainly searched through the board looking at threads on the various sticks, and not really found a definitive answer. If you think you have one... please offer it.
 
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Really, the VCore Tour 89 has more plow than the Wilsons? Does it swing about the same? I've never been a Yonex user, and I'm under the impression that it has a feel closer to the Head Prestige Mid.
 
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meltedsteam

Semi-Pro
Those have more plow, but it is crisper than Becker with more plow than Dunlop...and a great frame, especially for mid.
 

Phalagoo

Rookie
All I really have experience with are the Wilson Prostaff 90 and the Yonex VCore Tour 89. In my experience, although the Yonex is more aerodynamic, it has less plowthrough. It is also too light for me, but that may be just me. I demoed the 6.1 and did not like it, but that is just for my game. I am, however, enjoying my Prostaff 90 very much, mostly because of its stability. The Prostaff 90 is a little plush though, so there might not be a "crushed-it" feeling to it. Demo when you have the opportunity.
 
Ok Ill say it. Check out the Pacific X feel pro 95 (16 x19) and xforce 16 x 20

The feel pro 95 is crisper than the London but still has that German type engineering that focuses on soldidity andfeel. put a little lead at 3 and 9 and I do mean a little. Most of my lead is in the handle. It is the most accurate mid+ I have ever played with, a lot like a mid. It returns exceptionally well if you area big returner too.

If that is too demanding or you mostly play from thebaseline try the XForce. The X feel is great from the backcourt too but bit for grinders...more of a ballstriker and S& V frame.

Other sticks:

Angell TC 95 16 x 19
Dunlop Bio 200 tour and lite
 
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SpinToWin

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All the racquets you have mentioned are very very solid options. All except one. The Pro Staff 85 reissue. That racquet is much more plush and it does not have much of a crisp feel IMO. It does feel awesome, don't get me wrong, it just is not what I would call crisp.

Demo them and decide what feels best or fits best for your game.
 

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Thanks SpinToWin. Are there any useful choices outside of that list? I've never owned a racquet from Head or Wilson but have liked everything I've hit, so I am actually trying to keep it to their sticks.
 

SpinToWin

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Thanks SpinToWin. Are there any useful choices outside of that list? I've never owned a racquet from Head or Wilson but have liked everything I've hit, so I am actually trying to keep it to their sticks.
hmmmm… The only other relatively new racquet in that range that comes to mind is the Blade 93. I didn't really like it, but it is solid and crisp.
 

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OK - I just bit the bullet and ordered the 16x18 6.1 95. I just can't do 85 or 90 when the 95 has a feel I know I'll like and more forgiveness. Thanks for the feedback.
 

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That is a great racquet... really fun to play with. Enjoy!
Thanks. I've always wanted a PS 85 or 90, but I'm not convinced they'd be daily grinders for me. The Head was the wildcard for me and I'm just not even going to look. Hitting a friend's K95 over the weekend confirmed once again the 6.1 feel for me. It will be a bit more forgiving than my 4D100 while having a good deal more plow.

Time will tell if I have better results with it than with the London Tour, which is its almost exact opposite in terms of feel.
 

0d1n

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The IG Prestige Pro is a superb racquet...period (if you don't like the grip shape, changing the pallet to a speed shape might be an option).
The 6.1 95 is a superb racquet in terms of how effective it can be, but comfort might be an issue...I've had more than one friend having shoulder/wrist problems with the 6.1 series, I've hit with the k-factor and the blx versions and (with poly) they hit like steel pipes for me (the k-factor was awful from that perspective).
Not sure about the "latest" I didn't bother play-testing them after previous experiences.
The 90 and the 85 are just not what I would use. The game is hard enough as it is.
 

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Thanks Od1n. In the end, I just decided that I'd regret not buying the Wilson, which I've been looking at for years, more than the Head. We shall see. I like the "steel pipe" feel if that's what you call it, and I have plush with what I already have. Hopefully, I don't develop arm problems with long term use. This is one of the problems of racquet demoing - no way to see long term effects in the short term. The plow of the 6.1 has me thinking it'll be just fine.
 

Smasher08

Legend
I have plush and pretty stable with the Becker London Tour. I have the Dunlop 4D100 - that's not a very stable stick, but if I swing it quickly enough it can handle some pretty hard hitting.

I want something crisper than the Becker and with a heck of a lot more plow than the Dunlop. I also want it to have 16 mains.

That has me gravitating toward a few sticks right now:
  • Head IG Prestige Pro
  • Wilson 6.1 95 16x18 [the new one]
  • Wilson Pro Staff 90 [the new one]
  • Wilson Pro Staff 6.0 85 [obviously the TW remake]
I hit with a friend's KFactor 6.1 95 16x18, and I like the plow and the "crushed it feeling" when you connect with the ball. It was also just the right weight and balance. That's pretty much what I'm looking for, but if the 90, the Head, or even the 85 has more of that feel, I'm probably pursuing that option.

I'm not looking to improve my game with a racquet choice. This is about enjoying the shot when hit on the screws. If I want forgiving, I'll pull out the London Tours. I really just want more plow than the 4D100, and something crisper than the London Tours to play with on occasion.

I have certainly searched through the board looking at threads on the various sticks, and not really found a definitive answer. If you think you have one... please offer it.
Weight and balance can be altered to whatever you want with lead.

Find the frame with the plow you like best, and measure/weigh it for balance, tip weight, tail weight, static weight, and swing weight. Do the same for other you like.

Then find what feels best for you in terms of feel, and customize it to suit your tastes.

The Dunlop 100 seems to have its fair share of fans, but imo it's far too light. You might want to try leading it up.

Otherwise, try the Yonex 89, PS 90, and Prestige Mid. When rackets weigh 360g + with a SW of 340 or more and a good HL balance, you'll find lots of plow and an exquisite feeling when hit right.

Good luck!
 

Amalhotra

Rookie
I play with the black and red blx six one 95 16x18
It's a fantastic racket and would recommend it to anyone who likes spin and stability. It is also by no means a mushy frame as it is crisp but not difficult on the arm. If you can lift it it's awesome.
 
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