i've been doing some running today on the courts and i lost in a set 6-4. i've been reflecting and wondering why i weigh 95 kg and pant alot. is this way too much for a 6 ft guy, aged 35? i also get tired quicker than the others. i can agree i'm overweight but more like 3 kg maybe?. appearance wise i have a 'small bulge' but not a big gut. what do you think? or are my bones freaky heavy? or does the weight get heavier with age . i remember i was lighter when i was younger but probably the same height.
95 kg too heavy? 6 ft tall
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Steady Eddy
Legend
Doesn't sound like so much for a 6 foot man. Does your doctor think you need to lose weight? I'd worry more about it from a health perspective than about winning tennis. BTW, at the recreational level, I've known guys way heavier than that who could play killer tennis. Don't blame the loss only on weight.
Rorsach
Hall of Fame
Yup, you're overweight. Keeping your weight down is only going to get harder from now on and you'll notice the extra weight more and more, especially on your knees.
I'm the same as you, only a bit older and i don't look real fat (no gut), but i've got it all the same (all over the body most likely).
Do your best to lose 10 kg and try to stay there, your older self will be grateful for it.
I'm the same as you, only a bit older and i don't look real fat (no gut), but i've got it all the same (all over the body most likely).
Do your best to lose 10 kg and try to stay there, your older self will be grateful for it.
10kg too heavy... that is a big ask. everyday i like to have 2 serves of coffee plus a little sweet or biscuit or cake..and to get down 10 kg..it may not be easy.
with my top off in front of the mirror i see a small bulge and some fat on the sides of the waiste. and u guys want 85kg..i'll aim for 90kg.
i just don't like running hard on the court for a ball out wide.feels yucky
thanks for the posts
with my top off in front of the mirror i see a small bulge and some fat on the sides of the waiste. and u guys want 85kg..i'll aim for 90kg.
i just don't like running hard on the court for a ball out wide.feels yucky
thanks for the posts
SystemicAnomaly
Bionic Poster
Curious that you use metric units for your weight but the old English/US units for your height. From whence do you hail?
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Probably Australian. For some weird reason we do that over here.
I'm also 6ft (or 1.82m) and weigh 80kg. I think I have a BMI of 23 or 24. When you are 95kg at this height you are overweight unless you are very muscular.
The best way to loose some weight is to make changes in your lifestyle, but it all depends on how much you want it. If your are fine with the way you are, than you shouldn't complain if you can't run down a ball on the tenniscourt. If you are not...than do something about it
The best way to loose some weight is to make changes in your lifestyle, but it all depends on how much you want it. If your are fine with the way you are, than you shouldn't complain if you can't run down a ball on the tenniscourt. If you are not...than do something about it
SpinToWin
Talk Tennis Guru
Do some cardio(vascular) training. This means long exercises at about 65-75% of your maximum output (at least 30 minutes continuous). This improves your respiratory system, so you get out of breath less easily and you can concentrate more easily when you are out of breath. Furthermore, such exercises improve your body's ability to use your fat as an energy source (so you will lose weight quicker and have more energy when you've used up your ingested calories).
Some examples of such exercises. Jogging, swimming, cycling, etc.
Some examples of such exercises. Jogging, swimming, cycling, etc.
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sjoerdklarenbeek
Rookie
I'd say 95 kg is too much for a six foot guy. Apart from BMI, you can measure abdominal circumference as well (ideally less than 94 cm).
I'm 189 cm (six foot two or two point four to be exact). My personal ideal weight is 80 kg. I'm now around 83 kg and I have normal musculature and a bit of fat on the belly, my abdominal circumference is 93.5 cm. Trying to lose a bit of the fat now that it's still just a little bit. Much easier than having to lose a lot.
I'm 189 cm (six foot two or two point four to be exact). My personal ideal weight is 80 kg. I'm now around 83 kg and I have normal musculature and a bit of fat on the belly, my abdominal circumference is 93.5 cm. Trying to lose a bit of the fat now that it's still just a little bit. Much easier than having to lose a lot.
dr325i
G.O.A.T.
OP,
I always struggled with weight but, if determined, had no issues keeping it where I wanted and maintaining it. However, it is a life long task and dedication. I do have a huge sweet tooth and I did not take the sweets out. I could live purely on carbs, but I have to keep them under control. I realized I can drop any amount of weight if I take bread and carbs out.
I am 6ft tall, 87kg (192 lbs) and my waist is 86cm (34"). I am still thinking to go down to 185lbs (84kg), however: I feel great, I am in best shape of my life (42), my body (minus the right hip, most likely has nothing to do with the weight) feels great. I have been maintaining (fairly easily) same weight level (+/- 1kg) since mid 2013.
January 2013 I weighted 218lbs (~99kg) and have dropped 11kg (25+ lbs) using myfitnesspal app. I am still using it every day.
I always struggled with weight but, if determined, had no issues keeping it where I wanted and maintaining it. However, it is a life long task and dedication. I do have a huge sweet tooth and I did not take the sweets out. I could live purely on carbs, but I have to keep them under control. I realized I can drop any amount of weight if I take bread and carbs out.
I am 6ft tall, 87kg (192 lbs) and my waist is 86cm (34"). I am still thinking to go down to 185lbs (84kg), however: I feel great, I am in best shape of my life (42), my body (minus the right hip, most likely has nothing to do with the weight) feels great. I have been maintaining (fairly easily) same weight level (+/- 1kg) since mid 2013.
January 2013 I weighted 218lbs (~99kg) and have dropped 11kg (25+ lbs) using myfitnesspal app. I am still using it every day.
movdqa
Talk Tennis Guru
I went from 245 to 172 over a period of several years and it wasn't linear. Exercise got me down to 210-220 and diet + exercise got me down lower. I have to consciously watch what I eat to maintain my weight in an 8 pound range.
I run an average of 3.8 miles per day (that's the stats for this year, last year was about 3.6 miles), do strength-training 3-4 times per week, and play tennis. Waist is around 31 inches and height is 5' 10". I consider losing/maintaining weight to be similar to addictions like smoking and drinking. Once you've been addicted, you have to watch yourself for the rest of your life. I'd guess that my body could put on weight quite quickly as it was at a much higher weight at one time and would probably like to go back there.
On the diet side, I use a hybrid low-carb/Mediterranean diet. I have worked very hard to cut sugar out of my diet. Getting your weight down will make life easier for your feet, ankles, knees and maybe your hips. You will look better and feel better, especially with a new set of clothes.
The weight is one issue that can tire you out but actively improving your fitness, whether with intervals, strength training or steady-state cardio, can improve your performance on the court. It can also reduce injuries as getting into the right position for your shots because of fitness means that you don't have to hit the ball slightly out of form or position as much.
movdqa
Talk Tennis Guru
Fintft
G.O.A.T.
Well I know I'm overweight at 6'2", 103 Kgs although I don't get tired, etc. The knees take a toll and intertia is huge (hard to change directions etc).
I play much better at 97 kgs, when I reach that during the summer... I do have big bones/frame, some muscles but also that bulge you mention
That's the one that ****es me off and it's dangerous.
RoddickAce
Hall of Fame
It also depends on whether you do weights. If you have a lot of muscle mass then perhaps 95kg is not overweight by a lot. You can get a body fat % test done to see whether you carry too much excess fat.
However, for tennis, even if you have a low body fat % with huge muscles, at 95kg and 6ft it might be too heavy and cause your endurance to decrease.
Try this calculator:
http://www.healthyforms.com/helpful-tools/body-fat-percentage.php
It tends to underestimate the body fat% imo. It estimates my body fat % to be 14%, which I think is probably 1-2% lower than my actual %.
However, for tennis, even if you have a low body fat % with huge muscles, at 95kg and 6ft it might be too heavy and cause your endurance to decrease.
Try this calculator:
http://www.healthyforms.com/helpful-tools/body-fat-percentage.php
It tends to underestimate the body fat% imo. It estimates my body fat % to be 14%, which I think is probably 1-2% lower than my actual %.
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movdqa
Talk Tennis Guru
One approach on whether or not your weight is reasonable for tennis is to find several ATP pros at your height and look at their average weight or find someone with a similar build and then compare your weights. Of course you shouldn't be surprised if some of them weigh 10-20 pounds less as they are professional athletes but it gives you an idea as to a target - not necessarily something that you can ever reach though.
Pro players have the ideal body type and are generally very 'skinny' for their height if you compare them to other major athletes. If you get to see them up close and personal this is the impression you get.
One big advantage is being light for your frame is going to be easier on your joints. Obviously plenty of fat guys can go out there and play rec tennis. But if you looking for optimal play - being thin is the way to go.
You also have the advantage of being able to practice and play more with fewer injuries. For any players over 40 this seems to be a big issue. They simply cannot play more tennis because their body breaks down.
When I lived in NYC we had quite a few tennis 'bums' - these guys would just basically hang around CP tennis center all day and weasel their way onto matches as fourth double partner - or step in when someone doesn't show up.. Basically they would try to play all day every day. The key to doing this (beside the clay courts) is that they were almost always exceptionally thin..
One big advantage is being light for your frame is going to be easier on your joints. Obviously plenty of fat guys can go out there and play rec tennis. But if you looking for optimal play - being thin is the way to go.
You also have the advantage of being able to practice and play more with fewer injuries. For any players over 40 this seems to be a big issue. They simply cannot play more tennis because their body breaks down.
When I lived in NYC we had quite a few tennis 'bums' - these guys would just basically hang around CP tennis center all day and weasel their way onto matches as fourth double partner - or step in when someone doesn't show up.. Basically they would try to play all day every day. The key to doing this (beside the clay courts) is that they were almost always exceptionally thin..
At 200lbs. you can play decently up to strong 4.5, then your extra 30 lbs start to wear on your joints, slow you down, and stress your muscles.
It's YOUR life. Do you want to live to play tennis, or play tennis to live?
1. Lose 30 lbs.
2. Enjoy your life, expect your tennis to suffer.
It's YOUR life. Do you want to live to play tennis, or play tennis to live?
1. Lose 30 lbs.
2. Enjoy your life, expect your tennis to suffer.
dr325i
G.O.A.T.
Tennis Balla recorded that but never paid the royalties to post it
That was probably in the 215 range.
r2473
G.O.A.T.
You are probably about 24% bodyfat is my guess. A 6ft. tall man (filled out, mature) will probably carry ~155-160 lbs. of lean body mass. You can obviously gain lean body mass (muscle), but it's not as easy as some believe.
That said, your stamina on court will be more dependent on your fitness (cardio) than anything else. I'm just over 6ft. and weigh about 215 lbs. I'm probably 17% bodyfat (I've had recent bod pod bodyfat tests). On Saturday I played singles from 9am to 6pm, only stopping for a few hours all that time. I purposefully played a running style the whole time (I'm trying to lose weight) and was still running down more balls than my final opponent at 6pm. But I'm fairly fit cardio-wise.
I played 4 hours on Sunday too. Then I did my weight routine in the evening.
I'm 41 years old.
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heninfan99
Talk Tennis Guru
I'm 5'11" and once weighed more than the OP. It put extra stress on my calves that I didn't really want. I went from 215 all the way down to 167. For me 176 felt great on the court but now I'm 190 and it's fine too.
looseleftie
Rookie
95kg and 6ft is definitely overweight..
I think u need to address this, the added pressure/strain on your body, knees, ankles, back and accompanying joints has to carry this around with u, whilst u are undertaking physical activity is not healthy. Also cardio wise, at 95kg, is beginning too look a bit scary!!
Assuming u are average build, I'd be looking at shaving of 15-20kg off that if u want to be playing tennis beyond 40 plus and be able to have some reasonable level of fitness and agility. Let alone win a few games here and there.
Carry extra weight is hard to shift for many people, for some it's much harder than others.. My advice is too look into your food intake, the quality and quantity of what u put in your mouth.
Remember the fat u eat, is the fat u wear!!
I think u need to address this, the added pressure/strain on your body, knees, ankles, back and accompanying joints has to carry this around with u, whilst u are undertaking physical activity is not healthy. Also cardio wise, at 95kg, is beginning too look a bit scary!!
Assuming u are average build, I'd be looking at shaving of 15-20kg off that if u want to be playing tennis beyond 40 plus and be able to have some reasonable level of fitness and agility. Let alone win a few games here and there.
Carry extra weight is hard to shift for many people, for some it's much harder than others.. My advice is too look into your food intake, the quality and quantity of what u put in your mouth.
Remember the fat u eat, is the fat u wear!!
ProgressoR
Hall of Fame
I am 6ft and around 90-95kg as an estimate, I am not overweight (I don't look it or feel it), I am 43 years old. I play fine, I move fine, sure I could lose a few kg, but a lot depends how your body carries it. I don't have a belly, I am a little broad but not fat by any stretch, and am not concerned about losing weight to increase longevity for tennis. I have always played sport, am reasonably fit and active, have never really weighed 5kg over/under my current weight since around 20.
So OP, if you feel you can or want to lose weight, then go for it, I am sure you would probably feel better for it, even if it stems from achieving your goal, rather than miraculously making you a better player.
Also if you take on more exercise to lose weight, that in itself will benefit you.
I do not plan to lose weight.
So OP, if you feel you can or want to lose weight, then go for it, I am sure you would probably feel better for it, even if it stems from achieving your goal, rather than miraculously making you a better player.
Also if you take on more exercise to lose weight, that in itself will benefit you.
I do not plan to lose weight.
For someone who doesn't weight lift, I've always gone by this formula. One should be 100 pounds at 5 foot, then 5 pounds for every inch past that. Of course, depending on body type make a range of 10 pounds in either direction.
So at 6 foot (if you don't lift), then 145-175 pounds would be a good weight. Being a bodybuilder, the thing that I find coolest about someone losing alot of weight is that they'll usually have decent calves.
But then again, if you play tennis and excercise you'll probably have a slight amount more muscle than an idle person. So I'd change the range to 155-185.
I'm 16, 6' 3", and 193 lbs. Last summer I was low 180's, but I started to lift about 2.5 months ago and am currently on a cut.
So at 6 foot (if you don't lift), then 145-175 pounds would be a good weight. Being a bodybuilder, the thing that I find coolest about someone losing alot of weight is that they'll usually have decent calves.
But then again, if you play tennis and excercise you'll probably have a slight amount more muscle than an idle person. So I'd change the range to 155-185.
I'm 16, 6' 3", and 193 lbs. Last summer I was low 180's, but I started to lift about 2.5 months ago and am currently on a cut.
heninfan99
Talk Tennis Guru
True. You can be fast and heavy if you're in shape. Check the stats on this NFL draftee:
http://www.nfl.com/draft/2014/profiles/justin-gilbert?id=2543473
http://www.nfl.com/draft/2014/profiles/justin-gilbert?id=2543473
95 kilograms is 210 - not 200. And this guy is an elite athlete in the most athletic position in the NFL. If the poster was this gifted athletically - ie faster then anyone who has ever posted on this board - ever - while at the same time being stronger then anyone who has ever posted.. Then yeah sure he doesn't have to lose weight.
But for your average genes (can gain muscle and endurance but not ridiciulous amount in short time) he is not at optimal weight.
As I said before its very clear that you can be obese even and play doubles at decent level.. For singles you can at best be fat..and still win like at 4.0. Beyond that its pretty tough..
But even that CB would likely lose weight if he decided to take up pro tennis. You need strength - especially in your lower body to move quickly as possible on the court. But tennis players don't need to be very big in the upper body to rip the crap out of the ball.. Just look at guys like Federer..
For most popular sports like baseball, football, and basketball you can't really be too muscular. But I think tennis is the exception - guys like Federer who sport like 13.5 flexed biceps could actually carry more muscle in the upper body and still be ripped. They just don't because they don't need too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwZFCQEa0dw
Tennis players = skinny.
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heninfan99
Talk Tennis Guru
^^Uhm, yeah, just showining what's possible.
Of course you can be fat and play week night doubles at your club just fine.
Of course you can be fat and play week night doubles at your club just fine.
Sleepstream
Semi-Pro
188 cm and 98 kg
Guess I should drop some weight
Guess I should drop some weight
Fintft
G.O.A.T.
188 cm and 98 kg
Guess I should drop some weight
97-98 kgs has been the lowest I've achieved recently at 188 cm, now I'm at 103 kg
heninfan99
Talk Tennis Guru
that's cool. I'm 193 and play singles just fine at 5'11".
Good discussion.
I would add that height, at least for American men, is often exaggerated. Often the guy who says he is six feet and 200 lbs is actually 5'10" and at 200 lbs is way overweight. I am 6 feet and a half inch and most people think I am 6'3". This is because 90% of American men think they are two inches taller than they actually are. I weigh 178 right now and people are shocked when I tell them how light I am.
Like someone said, look at the stats on the world class guys. Often see guys at 6'3" playing at 170 lbs. Look at middleweight/welterweight boxers too. Much lighter than people think.
I would add that height, at least for American men, is often exaggerated. Often the guy who says he is six feet and 200 lbs is actually 5'10" and at 200 lbs is way overweight. I am 6 feet and a half inch and most people think I am 6'3". This is because 90% of American men think they are two inches taller than they actually are. I weigh 178 right now and people are shocked when I tell them how light I am.
Like someone said, look at the stats on the world class guys. Often see guys at 6'3" playing at 170 lbs. Look at middleweight/welterweight boxers too. Much lighter than people think.
Sorry, I would consider that overweight. Unless you are really fit and it is all muscle, and even then too much. But, you could be heavy and fit so your issue could be lack of physical fitness and not so much the weight. I recommend eating a huge breakfast, smaller lunch and almost nothing for dinner. I am a 5'4" woman and always had weight around 110lb, never dieting, just eating in this manner and skipping carbs at night. But, for fitness nothing to it than to work out.
Plenty of people play very high level tennis above 200lbs
movdqa
Talk Tennis Guru
Well, Isner's a good example but I think that these folks tend to have more injuries than lighter folks. I'm 177 and would like to get down to 165 myself but that would mean some loss of muscle too.
One big downside to losing a lot of weight is that you have to use your muscles to open fire doors.
heninfan99
Talk Tennis Guru
I play with many people over 200 lbs.
Of course you do..what's your point? OP wanted to know if he was overweight for optimal tennis play..
Unless he is a truly exceptional athlete - with genes from the gods - he is. That's all we are saying. Why? Because pro tennis players carry low body fat (under 10% on the men's side) and if you are under 10% and 6 foot tall you are unlikely to be 210 pounds without superior genes.
heninfan99
Talk Tennis Guru
The OP is not about to turn pro so we are giving him real world feedback. He can play just fine at 200+ pounds at his height. I won a few matches yesterday at 193# and I'm not as tall as he is.
movdqa
Talk Tennis Guru
There's a big difference about what you can do between 35 and 55. If you take it off now, you can enjoy those year with less stress to your joints and hopefully better performance on the court. As someone in the 240s in my 40s and 170s in my 50s, I guarantee you that the 170s are a lot kinder to my body and much better for my tennis game.
heninfan99
Talk Tennis Guru
You are correct sir. I concur.
Fintft
G.O.A.T.
movdqa
Talk Tennis Guru
Sounds like short-term thinking if true.
I wonder if that's true in Silicon Valley. Does the nerd billionaire have an edge over the muscular guy?
