A beautiful moment has slipped away, for all of us...

Spencer Gore

Hall of Fame
Perhaps you need the benefit of age to know how sad it was to see the Grand Slam slip away last night.

When Laver won the Grand Slam in 69, when I was a young man, I took it for granted that I would see other attempts: some would succeed, some would fail. Yet here we are 52 years later -and I am no longer a young man -and only one male player has got within touching distance of the summit.

When you are young, you think opportunities will always come along, there will always be another chance.
As the song says:
"Life had no reason and life had no rhyme,
I knew there were mountains to climb,
but at the time I thought I had time".
But time is the one thing we have less of every second.

I'm devastated that I didn't get to see a second Grand Slam. I very much doubt I'll live to see another one. I'll never understand the bitterness of people who can be glad that Djokovic failed. And I say that as a Nadal fan. It would have been a memory as a tennis fan you would have held forever. You would have been able to tell your grandkids you saw the Grand Slam be achieved.

I'll just have to add experiencing the Grand Slam in 1969 to my ever-growing list of beautiful things I once experienced but will never experience again: seeing David Bowie in concert, shaking hands with my sporting hero, Muhammad Ali, standing on the top of the twin towers.

All of these moments have been lost in time. Like tears in rain...
 
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UnforcedTerror

Hall of Fame
At least you got the chance to see it once in your lifetime but all the other TTWers have nothing lol.

Seriously, I'm content with the NCYGS we experienced in 2016, we won't see that one again in our lifetime. It was even more impressive because of the 3 surfaces.

I will log in TTW in 2050 to tell the future TTWers about it, and how I took it for granted when I was a young man. ;)
 

terribleIVAN

Hall of Fame
I'm sad because the occasion, but not for Novak, if that makes sense.

He came hoping Danny would give it to him.

And he kept hoping until match point down.

That's not the way a GOAT behaves.

He missed countless sitters at the net.

Where was his vaunted mental strength under pressure ?

He bought in his own hype, ala Federer.
 

Cortana

Hall of Fame
I think the Nole Slam was good enough. His overall 2 year dominance in the 2014-2016 span was crazy.
 

tex123

Professional
Perhaps you need the benefit of age to know how sad it was to see the Grand Slam slip away last night.

When Laver won the Grand Slam in 69, when I was a young man, I took it for granted that I would see other attempts: some would succeed, some would fail. Yet here we are 52 years later -and I am no longer a young man -and only one male player has got within touching distance of the summit.

When you are young, you think opportunities will always come along, there will always be another chance.
As the song says:
"I knew there were mountains to climb, life had no reason and life had no rhyme,
but at the time I thought I had time".
But time is the one thing we have less of every second.

I'm devastated that I didn't get to see a second Grand Slam. I very much doubt I'll live to see another one. I'll never understand the bitterness of people who can be glad that Djokovic failed. And I say that as a Nadal fan. It would have been a memory as a tennis fan you would have held forever. You would have been able to tell your grandkids you saw the Grand Slam be achieved.

I'll just have to add experiencing the Grand Slam in 1969 to my ever-growing list of beautiful things I once experienced but will never experience again: seeing David Bowie in concert, shaking hands with my sporting hero, Muhammad Ali, standing on the top of the twin towers.

All of these moments have been lost in time. Like tears in rain...
A beautiful moment has arrived. One of the NextGen has his hands on the trophy. Nothing could be more beautiful than that.
 

Wander

Hall of Fame
The Grand Slam doesn't even matter. Rod Laver won all four Majors in a single year back when AO was a 500 level tournament. Good for him.

Djokovic got an opening to repeat the feat as his closest rivals fell off with injuries. Medvedev reached his peak level just in time to stop him. That's sport.

In a way it's good that it didn't happen. We don't get this one guy dominating all the historic Grand Slam statistics. He'll still get to 21 and maybe beyond, but as this final showed, you can't have everything.
 

junior74

G.O.A.T.
Novak had it within his grasp, but he showed us he is actually not a robot, despite all the claims.

CYGS didn't lose any of its allure with last nights failed opportunity. I'd say it added a new dimension to it, at least for all who weren't fortunate enough to see the birth of Spinning Jenny.
 

MichaelNadal

Bionic Poster
Done mostly by one poster. He probably thinks he is super intelligent where he can translate everything in tennis to a fake action crap. Doing it once a while would have been ok but doing it in post after post is simply kiddish.
Lol I assure you it's not that serious. What was your favorite point from the match yesterday? :cool: literally like at the LEAST, a quarter of this forum enjoys talking wrestling so have several seats. The gifs I post are for the people that like them, not the 7 people that take everything too seriously.
 

PT630Wannabe

Professional
Perhaps you need the benefit of age to know how sad it was to see the Grand Slam slip away last night.

When Laver won the Grand Slam in 69, when I was a young man, I took it for granted that I would see other attempts: some would succeed, some would fail. Yet here we are 52 years later -and I am no longer a young man -and only one male player has got within touching distance of the summit.

When you are young, you think opportunities will always come along, there will always be another chance.
As the song says:
"I knew there were mountains to climb, life had no reason and life had no rhyme,
but at the time I thought I had time".
But time is the one thing we have less of every second.

I'm devastated that I didn't get to see a second Grand Slam. I very much doubt I'll live to see another one. I'll never understand the bitterness of people who can be glad that Djokovic failed. And I say that as a Nadal fan. It would have been a memory as a tennis fan you would have held forever. You would have been able to tell your grandkids you saw the Grand Slam be achieved.

I'll just have to add experiencing the Grand Slam in 1969 to my ever-growing list of beautiful things I once experienced but will never experience again: seeing David Bowie in concert, shaking hands with my sporting hero, Muhammad Ali, standing on the top of the twin towers.

All of these moments have been lost in time. Like tears in rain...
 

Slicehand

Semi-Pro
Perhaps you need the benefit of age to know how sad it was to see the Grand Slam slip away last night.

When Laver won the Grand Slam in 69, when I was a young man, I took it for granted that I would see other attempts: some would succeed, some would fail. Yet here we are 52 years later -and I am no longer a young man -and only one male player has got within touching distance of the summit.

When you are young, you think opportunities will always come along, there will always be another chance.
As the song says:
"I knew there were mountains to climb, life had no reason and life had no rhyme,
but at the time I thought I had time".
But time is the one thing we have less of every second.

I'm devastated that I didn't get to see a second Grand Slam. I very much doubt I'll live to see another one. I'll never understand the bitterness of people who can be glad that Djokovic failed. And I say that as a Nadal fan. It would have been a memory as a tennis fan you would have held forever. You would have been able to tell your grandkids you saw the Grand Slam be achieved.

I'll just have to add experiencing the Grand Slam in 1969 to my ever-growing list of beautiful things I once experienced but will never experience again: seeing David Bowie in concert, shaking hands with my sporting hero, Muhammad Ali, standing on the top of the twin towers.

All of these moments have been lost in time. Like tears in rain...
Well im not gonna cry, there are worse things in life, sport is like it is, and this wasnt meant to be, but im sure there are lots of beautiful moments waiting ahead
 

Tshooter

G.O.A.T.
…I'm devastated that I didn't get to see a second Grand Slam. I very much doubt I'll live to see another one. I'll never understand the bitterness of people who can be glad that Djokovic failed. And I say that as a Nadal fan. It would have been a memory as a tennis fan you would have held forever. You would have been able to tell your grandkids you saw the Grand Slam be achieved.

I'll just have to add experiencing the Grand Slam in 1969 to my ever-growing list of beautiful things I once experienced but will never experience again: seeing David Bowie in concert, shaking hands with my sporting hero, Muhammad Ali, standing on the top of the twin towers.

All of these moments have been lost in time. Like tears in rain...

I also very much wanted to see Djoker win the CYGS. Went to the match. Enjoyed the entire day immensely. Alcott completed the Golden Slam and it was joyful to see and it meant so much to him and, I think, his sport. The vibe on-site building up to the men’s final match was festive. The match though was hugely disappointing— like Djoker had nothing in the tank.

But it’s just a tennis match. As Djoker — who IMO is very gracious and often eloquent after losing a big match — I think said, that’s sports. And the USO went off basically as normal and that’s something to celebrate, especially for locals. Everyone I spoke to (that goes regularly) thought it was the best USO in many years. When Alcott mentioned in his speech how lucky he was to be in NY competing with the situation in Australia with lockdowns and how he would be doing a quarantine when he returned it sounded like a distant universe from the NTC.

I randomly met Ali once myself. Exceptionally charming man.
 
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Autodidactic player

Professional
Perhaps you need the benefit of age to know how sad it was to see the Grand Slam slip away last night.

When Laver won the Grand Slam in 69, when I was a young man, I took it for granted that I would see other attempts: some would succeed, some would fail. Yet here we are 52 years later -and I am no longer a young man -and only one male player has got within touching distance of the summit.

When you are young, you think opportunities will always come along, there will always be another chance.
As the song says:
"I knew there were mountains to climb, life had no reason and life had no rhyme,
but at the time I thought I had time".
But time is the one thing we have less of every second.

I'm devastated that I didn't get to see a second Grand Slam. I very much doubt I'll live to see another one. I'll never understand the bitterness of people who can be glad that Djokovic failed. And I say that as a Nadal fan. It would have been a memory as a tennis fan you would have held forever. You would have been able to tell your grandkids you saw the Grand Slam be achieved.

I'll just have to add experiencing the Grand Slam in 1969 to my ever-growing list of beautiful things I once experienced but will never experience again: seeing David Bowie in concert, shaking hands with my sporting hero, Muhammad Ali, standing on the top of the twin towers.

All of these moments have been lost in time. Like tears in rain...

I was 12 years old when Rod Laver won his second Grand Slam in 1969. I remember watching the grainy picture on TV and thinking that it was a huge deal and an amazing accomplishment. But I have a far stronger memory of sprinting through the hedges at Forest Hills two years later to see a 16 year old Chris Evert in 1971. I'm not sad that I didn't see another Grand Slam yesterday but I am a little sad that I will probably never again be as excited to see a tennis match as I was that day in 1971.
 
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Sunny014

Legend
I'm sad because the occasion, but not for Novak, if that makes sense.

He came hoping Danny would give it to him.

And he kept hoping until match point down.

That's not the way a GOAT behaves.

He missed countless sitters at the net.

Where was his vaunted mental strength under pressure ?

He bought in his own hype, ala Federer.
Mental toughness works against people aged same or older, works against mugs younger you too, but once youngsters start playing great tennis believing in their skills then no amount of toughness can save you.

This is the story of Roger and Novak experienced it for the first time \

This is what people like me, @TMF and many others have told you all along, you say age is an excuse.
 

woody88

Rookie
I think we need to put things in perspective that there is nothing to be devastated about, from OP's view. The only person that should be devastated is just Novak himself. As fans, we can be disappointed, or sad, that a certain sports history aspect was not achieved. But I just don't think we need to be at the devastation level for someone we don't know about on a personal level that didn't achieve his greatest feat.
 

BorgTheGOAT

Hall of Fame
Lol I assure you it's not that serious. What was your favorite point from the match yesterday? :cool: literally like at the LEAST, a quarter of this forum enjoys talking wrestling so have several seats. The gifs I post are for the people that like them, not the 7 people that take everything too seriously.
A quarter of this forum… well could be and I have no issue with occasional GIFs but this is getting way too much while in the end this is still a tennis forum and Wrestling is not even a real sport but show entertainment where no real competition takes place, no real streaks are broken, no real records are set but everything is scripted and planned beforehand. Hell even mediocre actors like David Arquette can become world heavyweight champions if the promoter decides so.

With the occasional discussions about other “real sports” like football, basketball whatever you can at least draw some parallels to tennis or try to discuss the (admittedly pointless) topic of overall GOAT among all sports. Wrestling on the other hand is no real sport so the relevance in a tennis forum is zero and only those stupid page-wide Vampire diaries discussions lately showing up here are even more annoying.

BTW wasn’t there a wrestling sub-forum at some point?
 

Jonas78

Legend
Well there is a winner and loser in every tennis match. It would also be devastating for Medvedev to lose his third slam final. Of course CYGS would be big, but imo its just as important that the younger players break through, and it should have happened many years ago. Remember that Zverev and Medvedev are the first two players sinse Djokovic/Murray generation to show any kind of consistency, and its almost 10 years between them. Whats happening now is how things should be, and its the best thing when you think about the future after Big3.
 

skip1969

G.O.A.T.
Honestly, I'm not all that bothered about Djokovic losing out on the GS.

Records, or sporting history don't matter to a lot of fans, even neutral ones. If it's your team or your player going for a record, then you care. If it's not, then chances are you don't. That's the way it is. Most fans aren't all like, "I was there on the day that so-and-so got the record" unless their guy/gal/team did it.

Do you think Yankees fans were rooting for the Red Sox to win the World Series in 2004 because Boston hadn't won in 86 years? Or when the Cubs won after 107 years? Do you think Manchester United fans were cheering on ManCity to win the league in 2012 after a 44 year drought?

Nobody cares about no-hitters, or shutouts, or winning streaks, or undefeated seasons, or MVPs or dynasties . . . unless they belong to you.
 

Autodidactic player

Professional
Perhaps you need the benefit of age to know how sad it was to see the Grand Slam slip away last night ...
Of course, we all got to see an even rarer tennis event. Emma Raducanu going from qualifier to champion. There have been three grand slam winners in my life. But never in the history of tennis, until this year, has anyone gone from qualifier to champion at a major. A moment not lost in time!

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Spencer Gore

Hall of Fame
Of course, we all got to see an even rarer tennis event. Emma Raducanu going from qualifier to champion. There have been three grand slam winners in my life. But never in the history of tennis, until this year, has anyone gone from qualifier to champion at a major. A moment not lost in time!

upload a pic
I don't actually watch any of the other competitions -female, doubles, mixed doubles, wheelchair, juniors etc -but well done to all the champions this year. Winning from qualifying is indeed a great achievement.
 

Bubcay

Professional
A beautiful moment has arrived. One of the NextGen has his hands on the trophy. Nothing could be more beautiful than that.
Well, they will hopefully have a lot of opportunities and do it many times in the future, but this was a one-time in a generation event. I, personally, am sorry it did not happen.
 

FranzS

Rookie
Perhaps you need the benefit of age to know how sad it was to see the Grand Slam slip away last night.

When Laver won the Grand Slam in 69, when I was a young man, I took it for granted that I would see other attempts: some would succeed, some would fail. Yet here we are 52 years later -and I am no longer a young man -and only one male player has got within touching distance of the summit.

When you are young, you think opportunities will always come along, there will always be another chance.
As the song says:
"I knew there were mountains to climb, life had no reason and life had no rhyme,
but at the time I thought I had time".
But time is the one thing we have less of every second.

I'm devastated that I didn't get to see a second Grand Slam. I very much doubt I'll live to see another one. I'll never understand the bitterness of people who can be glad that Djokovic failed. And I say that as a Nadal fan. It would have been a memory as a tennis fan you would have held forever. You would have been able to tell your grandkids you saw the Grand Slam be achieved.

I'll just have to add experiencing the Grand Slam in 1969 to my ever-growing list of beautiful things I once experienced but will never experience again: seeing David Bowie in concert, shaking hands with my sporting hero, Muhammad Ali, standing on the top of the twin towers.

All of these moments have been lost in time. Like tears in rain...
How was Laver's 1969 grand slam perceived back then? Was it seen as a really extraordinary achievement as it would be today? Or was it 'just great'?
 
Laver won it on 2 measly surfaces. Im sure he would have a few guys win a Calendar Slam if all slams were played on grass/clay these days. Djokovic could have won 3-4 of those LOL. Since all the depth has mainly been on Hardcourts for the last 20-25 years.

Hell, I would take what Andre did in the 90s over anything Laver did in 1969.. Andre got 4 slams and an Olympic gold on completely different surfaces.
 

Spencer Gore

Hall of Fame
Laver won it on 2 measly surfaces. Im sure he would have a few guys win a Calendar Slam if all slams were played on grass/clay these days. Djokovic could have won 3-4 of those LOL. Since all the depth has mainly been on Hardcourts for the last 20-25 years.

Hell, I would take what Andre did in the 90s over anything Laver did in 1969.. Andre got 4 slams and an Olympic gold on completely different surfaces.
You make the mistake of thinking the grass was the same at the three events. They played completely differently from each other. Plus you are facing a field who are either experts on grass or experts on clay. That means far more players who can cause you serious problems in the earlier rounds. Not to mention the reduced seed numbers, so you could be drawn against a much better player much earlier.

Laver's achievement in winning the Grand Slam twice was monumental.
 

Autodidactic player

Professional
Laver won it on 2 measly surfaces. Im sure he would have a few guys win a Calendar Slam if all slams were played on grass/clay these days. Djokovic could have won 3-4 of those LOL. Since all the depth has mainly been on Hardcourts for the last 20-25 years.

Hell, I would take what Andre did in the 90s over anything Laver did in 1969.. Andre got 4 slams and an Olympic gold on completely different surfaces.
Yup, winning all the slams on three radically different grass courts and one red clay court was much easier. Look at how many times tennis greats Roy Emerson, Ken Rosewall, John Newcomb, Arthur Ashe and Pancho Gonzalez did it. :rolleyes:
 
Yup, winning all the slams on three radically different grass courts and one red clay court was much easier. Look at how many times tennis greats Roy Emerson, Ken Rosewall, John Newcomb, Arthur Ashe and Pancho Gonzalez did it. :rolleyes:
Its way easier winning it during the country club era with far less players and a FRACTION of the physicality than it is now. Yes. And what was Laver, smaller than Ferrer? LOL. Dude was only a few inches taller than Shwarzmann for god sakes. Laver would be lucky to win a masters event much less a slam much less a calendar slam at his size now.

Not only does Novak have to deal with 3 surfaces (as opposed to 2 during Laver's day) he has to deal with monsters damn near a foot taller and more powerful than anyone in the 60s and also that are way more fit
 
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