A Brief Sampras vs federer records

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Roger Federer's consistency is remarkable, particularly when stacked up against the last dominant player, Pete Sampras, during his best years.

Sampras's run between 1993 and 1995 pales in comparison to the formidable Federer over the past three years. Sampras's win-loss record in the three peak years was 234-44; Federer's record has been 232-15 from 2004 to 2006. It is startling that Federer has almost the same number of wins but almost two-thirds fewer losses.

He also leads in Grand Slam titles (eight to six) and in tournament victories (31 to 23) over the two three-year periods. Though Sampras is well ahead in career Grand Slam titles (14 to nine) and in years finishing at No. 1 in the rankings (six to three), Federer, 25, is within striking distance of both.
 
It would be wonderful to quote the source of that article, otherwise someone would mistake it as being written by you. In fact, Orange One already mistook a quote from Sampras as something written by you, in another thread.

And yes indeed. Federer's 2004-2006 stretch is truly mindboggling.
 
Sampras's run between 1993 and 1995 pales in comparison to the formidable Federer over the past three years. Sampras's win-loss record in the three peak years was 234-44; Federer's record has been 232-15 from 2004 to 2006. It is startling that Federer has almost the same number of wins but almost two-thirds fewer losses.

Sampras didn't really care about non-major events for the most part. Lots of tank jobs, I think he lost to Mark Woodforde & Bjorkman on grass before winning Wimbledon a couple years & to Karbacher before winning the US Open one year.

In terms of win-loss over 3 year periods, Sampras' record pales in comparison to Borg, Mac, & Lendl as well, not just Federer.
 
I actually think it was harder to win everything in 90's
when tennis was very polarized on very different surfaces.

But yes, it's Sampras who perfected "peaking at the right time".
Even in a slam event, he is very different player in the 2nd week
compared to 1st week.
 
His records may have been better if he knew he was going to be constantly compared someone in the next generation. He would have amped it up. When he did amp it up, no one could stop him.

I hate to post another clip of Agassi on the losing end, but this is Sampras amping it up: http://youtube.com/watch?v=RpOH1MYssQk
 
superman1 said:
His records may have been better if he knew he was going to be constantly compared someone in the next generation. He would have amped it up. When he did amp it up, no one could stop him.

I hate to post another clip of Agassi on the losing end, but this is Sampras amping it up: http://youtube.com/watch?v=RpOH1MYssQk

I don't think this is true. Everything about Sampras was all about pacing. Through his matches, his seasons and his career. I believe it may been a concession to his genetic endurance limiter, thalassemia minor, merely that he was a "sprinter" at heart or merely, despite the common belief, that he didn't train hard, he simply couldn't put much more than he did into it either physically or psychologically.

From the Tennis Mag article "The Lonely, Living Legend" appearing in the May 1992 issue, written by Sally Jenkins:

...In fact, the last three months of 1998 were among the most trying of Sampras' career. He was obsessed with holding on to the No. 1 spot-and not at all certain he could, chased as he was by the Aussie heartthrob Patrick Rafter and the little Chilean ponytail marcelo Rios.

Sampras won only four events, his lowest total in eight years, and he was forced to play seven tournaments in the season's final eight weeks in a desperatd effort to secure the top spot. Ordinarily a champion sleeper, he began to get restless. He lost his appetite, got snappish with people. When it was over, he had barely clung to the ranking.

Yet nobody seemed to understand the magnitude of what he'd done. Instead, it was said that he'd had a bad year because he only pocketed a single Slam compared to the two majors he took home in 1993, '94, '95 and '97.

"The [No. 1] record was huge to me," he says. "I was consumed with it, because I knew the importance of it. I mean, I know what it takes. You have to give up quite a bit in your life. Just about everything. Every aspect....

..."Those last few months, it was great that I did it. But it wasn't fun. I was miserable."


What Federer is doing is mindboggling not as to his talents, but that he gives absolutely no quarter, anywhere, in any match, to the point where he has created such dizzying expectations that accusations of "tanking" were bandied about when he lost to Murray earlier this year. The only thing I could liken it to was the crazy expectations Evert created for herself by a certain stage of her career, that if she happened to commit an unforced error off the ground, people noticed, asking what happened or what went wrong. What Fed is doing, ostensibly using Master's events as tune-ups and then winning almost all of them is unbelievable and unprecedented on the male side of the sport.

I don't think Sampras could do that at that rate. But given that big stage for one must win match, for my life, I'd be torn between the two as to who I'd pick.
 
What I find considerably interesting is that Sampras must have played a lot more tournaments in the same period. I say that because the wins are same, even a couple more, however, he lost a lot more matches. If he played around the same tournaments and lost so many matches, I would have thought he would have won a lot less matches.

Its actually a bit of a myth. Federer may well be the most professional player of all time. I think he learned from Sampras' lack of focus sometimes. I say that because I was thinking on Monday how little Federer plays compared to others. He enters a tournament, wins it and then takes a small break. So he's never really tired. So basically he's as professional as Tiger Woods in golf.

That's also why he suffers so few injuries.

But we musn't forget Sampras didnt do to badly between 1993 and 1996 and went onto an excellent 1997 with two slams and I think 9 or 10 tournament titles. His real dip came in 1998.

Will history repeat iteself in 2008?
 
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