A couple of no-no questions :(

Discussion in 'Stringing Techniques / Stringing Machines' started by mpournaras, Mar 18, 2014.

  1. mpournaras

    mpournaras Professional

    Jun 22, 2009
    Middle of Somewhere
    So I work at a shop, and I feel like we do quality work with only a few frames coming back over the 6 months with "freak" problems and snappage.

    A very experienced stringer for the powershares series laid down a few "nevers" and it seems like it goes against all conventional stringing. So lets get a few opinions in here too.

    First: He said "never use a starting knot, it warps the frame"

    I can see how that would happen on maybe a 2-point mount or on an old racket. But with conventional 6 point mounts and strong modern frames is this really an issue? further more why would an industry invent a "starting knot" specifically if it is bad practice to use it?

    Second: Never tie two different string types on to eachother. *like tie a poly cross to a gut main or vice versa*"

    That would require opening up all kinds of grommets for ANY hybrid string job as for i recall, only the baboloat pure storms have a non-main starting point for the crosses. I don't know you'd think that Wilson might make more grommets open if this were regular?

    I am not saying this guy is wrong, it just seems like a few things that go against very established practices. I don't know.... I trust him as he is 100x more experienced than I will ever be, bu my starting knots have never caused an issue or no breakage has come back on a starting knot.

    Discuss. Thanks for your time guys

  2. Irvin

    Irvin G.O.A.T.

    Mar 15, 2007
    Marietta, Ga
    I doubt a starting knot will wrap the frame but if you work there and they don't want you using a starting knot then don't use one.

    I like to tie off the mains and crosses in the normal tie off holes. If I have the option I will tie a main to a main and a cross to a cross. I do not like to have to open up a grommet in order to use it as a tie off. Maybe if I every have a problem tying different strings I may change my mind but I never have.

    EDIT: Only some Babolat's have a top cross tie at 11H. Many Babolat's have extremely small grommets and I would NEVER open one of them up to use as a tie off.
    Last edited: Mar 18, 2014
  3. struggle

    struggle Hall of Fame

    Mar 4, 2010
    Western North Carolina
    You must be Bill Barber's buddy.

    I never use a starting knot because i use a starting clamp, but I don't buy that it warps the frame.

    Tying off plastic onto natural gut can be risky.
    Last edited: Mar 18, 2014
  4. coachrick

    coachrick Hall of Fame

    Feb 19, 2004
    Austin, hook 'em, Texas
    Sounds like he's a couple of weeks early for April Fools' Day.
  5. bluegrass_stringer

    bluegrass_stringer Semi-Pro

    Dec 29, 2011
    Agreed. Never heard the starting knot issue. I have heard about tying off crosses to other crosses, etc. But it is not an issue.
  6. jgrushing

    jgrushing Rookie

    May 26, 2010
    As a long time home stringer, I do both of these things routinely. My three main racquets are 8 years old and have been strung countless times. No warping and I use a starting knot every time. Also, I tie syngut to natural gut often and it lasts just fine.
  7. cluckcluck

    cluckcluck Hall of Fame

    Apr 29, 2010
    Between the baseline and netcord.
    This guy strings for pros and former pros (Powershares Series)? Seems like he is messing with you.

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