A couple string tests

Up&comer

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I want you to to a L-Tec review. Very interested in a high level junior's POV.

Hmmm. I don't know. It so expensive and there is almost nothing they could do to make that cost worth it. See the hybrid. I don't care if a hybrid from them plays well for 30+ hours. It will only last me a couple.

I might order one set, just to try. I have to get Kiteboard's opinon on which one, first, though :).
 

Torres

Banned
Kiteboard? Nawww.

Even though I've had my differences of opinion with him, I have to admit that, somewhat sheepishly, that I have adopted a modified version of one of his suggestions.

http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showpost.php?p=6445199&postcount=35

Instead of using cut up pieces of straw, I use a complete staw, with a rubber hose which I plug into a drinks cannister attached to my utility belt.

I can 'drink and play' whilst on court without stopping, like one of those marathon runners. I think I'm going to steal his idea and patent it!
 

fgs

Hall of Fame
you seem to be a sponsored player to get such good prices for the "torres-approved" set-up. :)
 

fgs

Hall of Fame
the 1.25 revolution (i assume that's 16L) was too stiff for me. i can hardly wait for your review of those two strings.
 

Up&comer

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the 1.25 revolution (i assume that's 16L) was too stiff for me. i can hardly wait for your review of those two strings.

I just had a half hour hit with the yonex in a hybrid. Pretty disappointing first impressions. I'll try again tomorrow.
 

Up&comer

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You got me excited for a second. I thought that might be Solinco Tru Feel when I first saw the package. :(

Maybe when I make the full switch to the 90. Multis don't last long enough in my apdgts. On the plus side revolution is one of the most gorgeous strings I've ever seen.
 

Up&comer

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Alright. 2 rackets with MPP/MCS, one with yonex/MCS, and one with revolution/MCS.

I had something interesting happen. Firstly, the dark blue is incredibly good looking. However, in the right light it looks black. I finished stringing up the mains and when I looked at it, I would have sworn it was B5E in the racket. It looks exactly like a dark blue B5E. It stretched the same as it, as well. It is noticeably stiffer than B5E in hand, though.
 

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I hit for about 30 minutes with the revolution before I had to put it down. Way too stiff for my wrist. It was, however, playing great. It's almost exactly like a lower powered version of b5e with just as much spin. It is also is one of the most responsive polys when swinging out that I've ever tried. When I swung out on it, I knew exactly were the ball was going. I guess the best way to say it is that it is an incredibly consistent string bed. I got what I put into it. I felt like if I wanted to hit a hard inside out forehand, I could swing out and feel confident that that's where it was going. I can't give a full review based on 30 minutes, but I can say that I have never been more disappointed that a string is too stiff for me. Not to mention it is my favorite colored string I've seen :cry: .
 
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mikeler

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I hit for about 30 minutes with the revolution before I had to put it down. Way too stiff for my wrist. It was, however, playing great. It's almost exactly like a lower powered version of b5e with just as much spin. It is also is one of the most responsive polys when swinging out that I've ever tried. When I swung out on it, I knew exactly were the ball was going. I guess the best way to say it is that it is an incredibly consistent string bed. I got what I put into it. I felt like if I wanted to hit a hard inside out forehand, I could swing out and feel confident that that's where it was going. I can't give a full review based on 30 minutes, but I can say that I have never been more disappointed that a string is too stiff for me. Not to mention it is my favorite colored string I've seen :cry: .


At least you tried it and will hopefully keep others with arm issues away from it.
 

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Well, I'm not sure wether you should call me stubborn or stupid, but I went out to hit some last night for about 2 hours. About 30 minutes into it, the crosses on my mpp/MCS racket broke, so I decided to give revolution one more shot. I hit for the rest of the hour and a half with it. I have to admit, I was playing lights out with it. I could feel it in my wrist a little, but I didn't want to give it up yet. Anyway, this morning I realized that was a mistake. Not only is my wrist bothering me, but my arm is hurting as well. I'm probably going to have to take today off and maybe tomorrow just to be careful. Bottom line: revolution is very very stiff. I'm going to give it a 9.25/10 on the scale. Playability- awesome for my game, but the problems caused by it aren't worth it.
 

fgs

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maybe you should give it another try in a thinner gauge. i have a 1.20mm (i think that's 17) sitting around.:)
 

fgs

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i will surely take some time until i get to play it, but i'll report then.

having a really nice time currently with the genesis twisted razor - final report probably by the end of next week.
 

Up&comer

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i will surely take some time until i get to play it, but i'll report then.

having a really nice time currently with the genesis twisted razor - final report probably by the end of next week.

Good deal. It'll be nice to know what you think. I've actually been looking at that lately as a test candidate.
 

Muppet

Legend
Well, I'm not sure wether you should call me stubborn or stupid, but I went out to hit some last night for about 2 hours. About 30 minutes into it, the crosses on my mpp/MCS racket broke, so I decided to give revolution one more shot. I hit for the rest of the hour and a half with it. I have to admit, I was playing lights out with it. I could feel it in my wrist a little, but I didn't want to give it up yet. Anyway, this morning I realized that was a mistake. Not only is my wrist bothering me, but my arm is hurting as well. I'm probably going to have to take today off and maybe tomorrow just to be careful. Bottom line: revolution is very very stiff. I'm going to give it a 9.25/10 on the scale. Playability- awesome for my game, but the problems caused by it aren't worth it.

Someone on this board said that Solinco strings are made to be strung lower, and there was agreement with this. Did you string the Revolution as high as the others?
 

rdis10093

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Here you go rdis10093. ALU (ahloo?) rough/wilson gut 48/50

Stringing-Not as bad as the reverse. Nothing really worth mentioning. Strung in my rebel 95 originals.

Groundstrokes- Great. I have never been a huge fan of Lux, but this setup really jived well with my game for the first 4 hours or so. It had ample power, but also had really good spin as well as control. I was ripping my groundies with this setup. I can't say it lasts long enough for me to use, and at 30 bucks a stringjob, it isn't exactly cheap. It plays great until the lux dies, though. The only problem is that he playability drops so much after that period it surprised me. I knew that lux doesn't last long, but it was a drop off a cliff in playability after that 4-5 hour period. It went stiff and lost control, spin, and power. It was just horrible afterwards, even with gut in the crosses.
Overall-
First 4-5 hours- 9.5/10
Afterwards- 5/10

Serves- Pretty darn good. Same scenario as the groundies. I could slam some first serves and seconds serves had really nice kick. Again, great at first, then just horrible.
Overall-
First 4-5 hours- 9/10
Afterwards- 6/10

Volleys- Average. Absolutely nothing spectacular about here. At 30 bucks, I wanted something special everywhere, even if it was only for a couple hours. I didn't get it at net. Started average and I really didn't notice a big difference after it went dead unless I tried a really delicate drop volley.
Overall- 7.5/10

Softness- 1 being the softest, 10 being the stiffest
Overall- 6/10

Durability- Physically, it was average for a textured poly/gut hybrid. It did have a horrible life span, though. I was glad the gut helped give the ALU an extra hour or two, but it still just went AWOL after 5 hours.
Overall- 5/10

All in all, I really liked the setup from the baseline and on serves. Volleys were average, though. It had a really nice, crisp responce on groundstrokes until it went dead. I mean, it was a 30 dollar string job, and it lasted me about 5 hours. Playability included with price, this was a pretty bad setup for me. Playability only, it played great at first, then died. I've been using MPP/MCS lately, and it lasts about 6 hours and costs me about 4.5 bucks a string job. This hybrid costed 30 bucks. That's 75 cents an hour vs 6 bucks an hour. The MPP/MCS plays pretty darn well anyway, so the cost of this setup is just unjustifiable.
Overall-
Price not included- 8.75/10
Price included- 5/10



thank you sir
 

Up&comer

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Well, I haven't been able to play for a couple days now after hitting with revolution. I still have a nagging arm soreness. I'll try to get some court time with the yonex in a day or two, depending on how my arm feels.
 

mikeler

Moderator
Well, I haven't been able to play for a couple days now after hitting with revolution. I still have a nagging arm soreness. I'll try to get some court time with the yonex in a day or two, depending on how my arm feels.


Don't try and push through the pain. Let it completely heal and then it won't turn into a nagging injury.
 

Up&comer

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Don't try and push through the pain. Let it completely heal and then it won't turn into a nagging injury.

I am. I just have so much energy to burn that I can't use for tennis. It's driving me insane. I keep going out for runs because I can't sit still.
 

Boricua

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Well, I haven't been able to play for a couple days now after hitting with revolution. I still have a nagging arm soreness. I'll try to get some court time with the yonex in a day or two, depending on how my arm feels.

What Yonex are you referring too, racket or string?
 

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Well, I got to hit for a while today with the yonex string. I strung it lower this time just for the safety of my arm and it seems to have tour bite syndrome. In the low fifties, it felt too powerful and didn't offer any exceptional spin. However, I strung it at 45/47 and it has opened up, much like what happened when I tried tour bite. It seems to favor lower tensions. The yonex has great spin and moderate power. The feel is average. I'll try to get more court time tomorrow.
 

Up&comer

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I can't remember who it was, but whoever requested the full bed of silverstring, it will have to wait. My wrist and arm can't handle full poly right now. Sorry!
 

Up&comer

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The crosses are about to break on the yonex string (hybrid with MCS). I gave the other half set of revolution to a friend to try out who normally uses a full bed of BBO :shock: . I'll see if he thinks it's stiff.
 

Up&comer

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Is it your elbow, shoulder or both in addition to your wrist?

It's just my wrist (which has always been a bit of a problem) and then what feels like the flexor carpi ulnaris in my forearm. My arm is feeling better now, though. I've never had any shoulder problems.
 

Up&comer

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My arm issues now are no longer at the elbow. Still have some soreness in the Brachioradialis.

That's right where you don't want it :( . Pain on the outside of the forearm is generally just temporary strain and goes away quickly, but bracioradialis pain tends to be longer lasting.
 

mikeler

Moderator
That's right where you don't want it :( . Pain on the outside of the forearm is generally just temporary strain and goes away quickly, but bracioradialis pain tends to be longer lasting.


I bought the Trigger Point Workbook so hopefully they'll have something in there that will target that area. Should get it by Monday.
 

maxpotapov

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My arm issues now are no longer at the elbow. Still have some soreness in the Brachioradialis.

Mikeler, do you think radical solution like playing with full nat gut only would prevent anything like this from happening?

I'm getting sick and tired of all this string business. It seems like the only way to play safe at higher level is full gut or nat/syn gut hybrid as the only price/performance compromise.
 

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Mikeler, do you think radical solution like playing with full nat gut only would prevent anything like this from happening?

I'm getting sick and tired of all this string business. It seems like the only way to play safe at higher level is full gut or nat/syn gut hybrid as the only price/performance compromise.

For your first question, most problems could be stopped, but you can still get s problems from poor technique or a too light and stiff racket.

I disagree about gut or gut/syn gut is the only way to go. If I used that I would have to take out loans to pay for the number of 20-25 dollar string beds I would every day or two.
 
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