A Djokovic win would be huge for his legacy

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8 slams...and his slam distribution would be a little better.... 4 away from Australia....and 2 each at Wimby/Uso. It would round things out very nicely.

To get back to the domination of 2011, I would still like to see him beat Nadal in a slam final (or semi) anywhere (ideally at RG), but if he ends up holding the trophy, you would have to consider him the major top dog heading into 2015.

There was quite a lull after winning the AO 2012...Djoko always has remained near the top and seemed more like a weaker version of 2.0 then fully reverting back to pre 2011 days, but he still fell off quite a bit from the talks that he could be a GOAT candidate or at least tier 1.

Now all of a sudden 8 slams is a possibility and top dog status would be his again which would really juice up the next potential Djokodal meeting. The by far and away world number 1 against the guy who has pointed the rivalry squarely in his favor the last 4 slam meetings.

Also if Djoko beats Fed in the final, that would also bolster his legacy to beat Fed twice at slams (back to back actually) It's not entirely fair since Fed is almost 6 years older, but it is what it is and it would be a major scalp for the Serb. I don't think his would quite undo some of Novak's chokes in the last couple years (needs a slam win over Nad to do that as previously said/a RG title) but it would bring him 90 percent of the way there.

Semi's are coming and anything could happen, but you have to bank on a Fedovic final...and I feel good about Novak but not comfortable by any stretch. I do like Djoko in B05 vs. Fed, especially off grass at this stage of their careers...(on a slow court like AO or RG, I would def favor Djoko)... if you are fair to Fed and counted them as basically equal in USO '10, '11, you would have to recognize that 3 years later and Novak still seems to be in peak fitness and Fed is great...but he's 33. Roger's best shot imo is to come in blistering form like RG '11 and win in 4. I predict both guys cruise thru their semi's and Novak wins the final in a close, but comprehensive fashion in 4 sets. He will add a huge gold star to his legacy in doing so and set us up for some exciting legacy defining matches next year with Nadal.
 
Of course winning USO would raise his legacy. Anyone who wins USO will raise his legacy, no matter who that is.

You think if Fed/Cilic/Nishikori win, that it won't be huge for their legacies?
 
Of course winning USO would raise his legacy. Anyone who wins USO will raise his legacy, no matter who that is.

You think if Fed/Cilic/Nishikori win, that it won't be huge for their legacies?

You could say that about anyone, which I guess was your point...but I think it will make a special difference to Novak to have 2 slams this year and the double Wimby/Uso combo...big, big difference in my eyes for him to have 1 slam this year vs 2, especially if it means a sweep vs. Fed in finals vs. a split.

For Fed it would be amazing, but it's all gravy if he wins, and if he loses it's no biggie.
 
You could say that about anyone, which I guess was your point...but I think it will make a special difference to Novak to have 2 slams this year and the double Wimby/Uso combo...big, big difference in my eyes for him to have 1 slam this year vs 2, especially if it means a sweep vs. Fed in finals vs. a split.

For Fed it would be amazing, but it's all gravy if he wins, and if he loses it's no biggie.

I also see it as a gravy for Djokovic. I wouldn't think any less of him if he doesn't win USO. He won already, has beaten Fedal and he made tons of finals proving it wasn't a fluke.

I think RG win would be huge for Djokovic.

Actually for me him winning 2 W and vs Fedal is huge for Djokovic. Because people were saying it was his worse surface. Not anymore.

Also, I think the biggest huge win Djokovic can do is win another W. W is holy grail of tennis. And there is another reason. If he wins it, he will then be better than Nadal on HC, indoor and grass. In 3/4 surfaces.

That to me is HUGE.
 
Like has been said, any Major win is huge and for these top guys one more win at every Major brings a new gloss to their legacy.

DJOKOVIC
AO: most titles in Open era with 5
RG: Career Grand Slam
W: joins elite list of triple champions with Sampras, Federer, Borg, McEnroe and Becker
USO: multiple titles at 3/4 Majors

NADAL
AO: double Career Grand Slam
RG: TEN(!!!!!) titles
W: joins elite list of triple champions with Sampras, Federer, Borg, McEnroe and Becker
USO: joins elite list of triple champions with Connors, Sampras, Federer, Lendl & McEnroe

FEDERER
AO: most titles in Open era with 5; 5+ titles at 3/4 Majors
RG: double Career Grand Slam
W: most titles in Open era with 8
USO: most titles in Open era with 6
 
'Slam distribution' .. is that the latest big thing on this forum? Djokovic better skip Australia then, certainly if he doesn't win this USO.
 
'Slam distribution' .. is that the latest big thing on this forum? Djokovic better skip Australia then, certainly if he doesn't win this USO.

Slam distribution is important.

Let's say someone wins 20 W titles and nothing else. Would you consider him the goat?
 
Sound analysis. I can't say, however, with any degree of certainty that Federer will be in that final. I've gone for him to win it in 4, in the match thread poll, but last night showed anything can happen.
 
Assjoke. :lol: x 500.


Can't even be reported, just looks like you abbreviated his username.
 
Sound analysis. I can't say, however, with any degree of certainty that Federer will be in that final. I've gone for him to win it in 4, in the match thread poll, but last night showed anything can happen.

Yes, we can't underestimate any players, even if it's Cilic.

I never take any wins for granted even vs lower guys 1st rounds. You can never be sure.
 
I agree. I don't think number 8 is enough to overtake lendl, mac and connors (as they all had 200+ weeks at 1 and almost twice as many tournaments won) but novak still has a chance to overtake them if he finishes strong.

I think it is also important for him to finish with a positive slam final record. he is currently at an even .500 while fed is at .650 (17-8 ) and nadal is at .700 (14-6). pete is even better at .778 (14-4).
 
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It would be huge and also help him launch an assault on achieving the djoko slam. If he wins this us open it will confirm him as the clear best player in the world and set him up for 2015 to dominate the year and close in on nadal and fed records, hopefully claiming that elusive FO title too.

If he wins USO, I think he will win back the AO and then he will have a huge shot at RG. It's all possible as nole looks like improved his level consistency (near 2011) and mental strength in key moments again. Since that Wimbledon win! :)
 
Slam distribution is important.

Let's say someone wins 20 W titles and nothing else. Would you consider him the goat?

Just depends on whether another guy wins 21 FO titles, or 21 titles at one of the other slams. In that case, the 20 time W winner won't be the goat.
 
if djok wins this he might go on and win all 4 next year.that would be groovey.

Djokovic will only win the AO next year. Murray will win Wimbledon and the USO looks likely, unless Federer stops him.. Nadal will win his last RG and last slam ever.
 
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Djokovic will only win the AO next year. Murray will win Wimbledon and the USO looks likely, unless Federer stops him.. Nadal will win his last RG and last slam ever.

And Venus will be in the Wimbledon 2016 final :lol: have several seats.
 
Djokovic will only win the AO next year. Murray will win Wimbledon and the USO looks likely, unless Federer stops him.. Nadal will win his last RG and last slam ever.

Yeah, and Wawrinka should have won this year's US Open. Oh wait!
 
Just depends on whether another guy wins 21 FO titles, or 21 titles at one of the other slams. In that case, the 20 time W winner won't be the goat.

The premise was that 20 slams was the record. Nobody was talking about 21 slams.

I just asked if you are the goat if you win 20 W titles. I didn't say I necessarily agree with the premise.
 
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