There are reports suggesting this will happen with either Indian Wells or an Asian country (China) hosting a fifth grand slam in the future. How would this come into play and will it make records null for the past players who have played in three/four grand slams, the Novak slam will be no more because he did not win five in a row and such. Will this happen in the future?
A Fifth Grand Slam in the future?
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newpball
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VamosBamos987
Hall of Fame
I think the ATP makes it in Belgrade. They are just 2 players in that tournament and they play a final: Djokovic vs Berdych
FudgeControl
Banned
That means no Nadal slam or Fed slam either. Novak is no stranger to the Indian Wells trophy. It isn't rocket science.
But more importantly, we don't need 5 slams.
VamosBamos987
Hall of Fame
Monte Carlo is the fifth slam. Nasal now has 23 slams and is the GOAT
newpball
Legend
Exactly, four is enough!
Any additional one diminishes the importance of the others.
Noleberic123
G.O.A.T.
Hopefully it stays at 4 slams a year forever
Poisoned Slice
Bionic Poster
Learn from WWE. Overexposure is not the key.
It would be the 6th slam anyway. Don't forget about Cincinnati, or is real slam status too great to be seen along with the other 4?
It would be the 6th slam anyway. Don't forget about Cincinnati, or is real slam status too great to be seen along with the other 4?
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mellowyellow
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Noleberic123
G.O.A.T.
Nah unless the downgrade one of the current masters to 500.I would be very much be in favor of a masters tournament on grass.
Perhaps someone should start a petition to present to the ATP?
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Smasher08
Legend
We already have The Real Slam.
Simon_the_furry
Hall of Fame
We need a slam in Japan.
That would be the coolest.
That would be the coolest.
FudgeControl
Banned
That's what they need, but the length of the hard court season negates the ability to have a masters on grass.Not when you don't even have a Masters on grass
Hard to make an argument for a 5th Slam and I certainly haven't read anything from what I would consider an "official" source to suggest the ITF is considering a 5th Slam.
Personally I can't see a 5th Slam being introduced anytime soon as players are already calling for shorter seasons and with a Slam requiring 2 weeks any introduction of a 5th would be to the severe detriment of multiple existing ATP/WTA tournaments.
Hypothetically if a 5th were to be introduced then somewhere in Asia (China or Japan) is probably the most likely location for it to be held on basis UK, Europe and Australia already have Slams and Asia is their target growth market....arguably a 5th Slam could be held after Shanghai and replace Paris Masters but I'd consider that extremely unlikely in short to medium term.
Personally I can't see a 5th Slam being introduced anytime soon as players are already calling for shorter seasons and with a Slam requiring 2 weeks any introduction of a 5th would be to the severe detriment of multiple existing ATP/WTA tournaments.
Hypothetically if a 5th were to be introduced then somewhere in Asia (China or Japan) is probably the most likely location for it to be held on basis UK, Europe and Australia already have Slams and Asia is their target growth market....arguably a 5th Slam could be held after Shanghai and replace Paris Masters but I'd consider that extremely unlikely in short to medium term.
Fiero425
Legend
When The Lipton Int'l was created back in '85, it was thought of as the 5th slam; 2 weeks and all the events covered including Mixed Doubles! It was boycotted initially by Connors and McEnroe because of the equal prize money offered IIRC! Everyone else was there and later even the 2 bad boys started going; so it has always been highly regarded and was initially Bo5 for the men! I don't think their status will ever be elevated; even with Tennis HQ down there! Didn't I hear something about a need to move the event? They haven't been able to expand in years, but they used up their quota of land in the area it seems! Only time will tell what they decide to do, but for now it'll be "NOTHING!"
Fiero425
Legend
Maybe it's just to raise the bar since it's been made a little easier with the homogenized courts! There used to be a real and obvious difference which made the feat a little more difficult! The elevation of the "Big 3" to ATG's occurred with courts more consistent and slow, updated racket technology, and the limited desire to win by the rest of the tour! There were 5 CGS winners over 100 years, then all of a sudden 3 more come along! They own the tour like no pros before them; even Laver and Rosewall! You can count the wins of Masters' events and majors on a hand or 2 over the last decade that haven't gone to them! I've been saying it's embarrassing for all concerned; the winners and the losers! This kind of dominance shouldn't occur with all things being equal!
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Mainad
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Firstly, any potential 5th Slam would almost certainly be in Asia and not in the US which already has one.
Secondly, records can never be retroactively altered to suit circumstances that did not exist when the player in question was active.
HardcourtHeaven
New User
hope not.
ForumMember
Hall of Fame
Its not far before Olympics would be counted as the fifth grand slam, something that Djokovic also spoken in favor of. In that case Nadal would be counted as having 15 majors already and he needs just two to equate Federer.
daddy
Legend
If this ever happens it would be in China. Obvious reasons are expanding tennis to the biggest market and lifting it's popularity to maximum.
I strongly disagree with the 5th slam and there are tons of reasons. Some things just shouldn't be done artificially. The four slams are a great long lasting traditional events, each of them begun long time ago in the 2nd part of the 19th century except for the AO ( 1905 ). Each of them naturally developed into one of the four biggest tournaments in the world and placed in countries where tennis is big and is a huge part of sporting tradition. One of the most loved, played and watched sport in history and it should remain so.
I strongly disagree with the 5th slam and there are tons of reasons. Some things just shouldn't be done artificially. The four slams are a great long lasting traditional events, each of them begun long time ago in the 2nd part of the 19th century except for the AO ( 1905 ). Each of them naturally developed into one of the four biggest tournaments in the world and placed in countries where tennis is big and is a huge part of sporting tradition. One of the most loved, played and watched sport in history and it should remain so.
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Chadillac
Guest
I still consider the wtf a 5th slam. No easy draws, gotta beat a lot of good players. 3 out of 5 would be perfect, a true ironman, they got soft
ForumMember
Hall of Fame
I don't consider WTF even a master.
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Chadillac
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Fiero425
Legend
May i ask why? Nice avatar
I'd say because it's Bo3, players are on their last legs, and in the grand scheme of things doesn't matter one jot in overall tennis records! Heaven knows Lendl won enough, but who talks about it? The legend is still Nastase who worked the system, able to lose a match, and still win the event multiple times! Nole will set himself apart by winning 4 in a row though; esp. after a record run in Masters the last few years! He's gone from 1 in a season, to 4, to 5, to 6 chp. with 8 finals!
ForumMember
Hall of Fame
do you still need to ask that even after looking at my avatar ?May i ask why? Nice avatar
On a serious note, i'll reply later. Little tied up at the moment.
Fiero425
Legend
do you still need to ask that even after looking at my avatar ?
On a serious note, i'll reply later. Little tied up at the moment.
Poor Rafa's usually "done" by the end of the season! He's actually lucky to have gotten to a couple finals! Back in '09, IIRC, he lost all 3 of his RR matches; some say due to breakup of his parents! Who didn't see that coming?
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Chadillac
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I'd say because it's Bo3, players are on their last legs, and in the grand scheme of things doesn't matter one jot in overall tennis records! Heaven knows Lendl won enough, but who talks about it? The legend is still Nastase who worked the system, able to lose a match, and still win the event multiple times! Nole will set himself apart by winning 4 in a row though; esp. after a record run in Masters the last few years! He's gone from 1 in a season, to 4, to 5, to 6 chp. with 8 finals!
Depends who you ask, i respect quality wins, still wish they they had the bonus pts for beating a higher ranked player.
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OhYes
Guest
Everything can be changed. Money talks. If China gets one, Dubai will get Masters.
DUROC
Professional
Where are those "reports", or is your posting the report?
Exactly.........there are no plans for "anointing" a 5th slam. A slam is a slam based on history, importance, relevance...etc. no events on tour right now qualify - only one close would be Canada and that's not even on the radar.
Bartelby
Bionic Poster
Most recently, tennis.com is advocating a fifth slam as a part of 'fixing tennis'.
Where are those "reports", or is your posting the report?
tennisaddict
Bionic Poster
Unlike many here, I think this will happen in China, sooner or later. It will be called the 'Asian Slam'.
China is way too powerful to just host Shanghai and Beijing
China is way too powerful to just host Shanghai and Beijing
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