A freak Zverev stat
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MichaelNadal
Bionic Poster
It only took a decade 
ForehandCross
G.O.A.T.
Umm I didn't get this, is it about winning a big title twice for the first time?
Mainad
Bionic Poster
The 2012 and 2016 Olympic champs too.
NAS
Hall of Fame
I think Murray already won Canada twice in 2010
Novichok
Professional
This is ridiculous. A week ago TTW was going on and on about Tsitsi's clay court prowess... now Zverev. A lot of top 10 players can play good tennis for one tournament but that means nothing in the long run. Zverev is not a future ATG and he is not winning 3-4 Slams. Get Real!!
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MichaelNadal
Bionic Poster
He will definitely win slams.
Novichok
Professional
Did you see him choke that AO quarterfinal and the USO final? He can't last 7 matches. Unless he gets a brain transplant.
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ForehandCross
G.O.A.T.
In my thread I said he has the potential to be ATG not that he will be. If that was the inference than I must have written it wrong.
NAS
Hall of Fame
He already did in Canada in 2010 but if you want technicalities then 2011 Cincy .
mike danny
Bionic Poster
After Novak?
Federer at the AO in 2017-2018?
Federer at the AO in 2017-2018?
StrongRule
Talk Tennis Guru
I believe OP talks about players doing it for the first time in their career.
zagor
Bionic Poster
Martin J
Hall of Fame
We all know who is the real winner (a moral champion, if you prefer) of those events. No kidding.
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Deleted member 771911
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I don't get this stat or why it's important. Is it saying Zverev is the first player since Djokovic to win a big title since 2011? As in Murray, Nadal etc did it before 2011? Ok, then. I kind of see what it is saying. Hmmm. That is a worrying stat. So not even Cilic, Nishikori did it? Pah. Thiem?
travlerajm
Talk Tennis Guru
No. It’s about how it’s been 10 years since anyone ax good as Zverev has come along.
ollinger
G.O.A.T.
a.k.a. a loser
travlerajm
Talk Tennis Guru
If he is not winning 3-4 slams? Who among his fellow under-30 peers will collect most of the next 20 slams over the next 5 years? (I know. Scary thought)
Martin J
Hall of Fame
Loser in real life, but winner on a moral scoreboard.
MadariKatu
Hall of Fame
It's not that. It's about being the first player to win the same big title a second time. Thiem has 1 USO and 1 masters1000, but hasn't repeated any of those. Wawrinka has 3 slams, none of them repeated. Medvedev has 3 masters1000, but all of them in different events.
So the op is saying that since the big4 Zverev is the first one that won a given big title for the second time. Whether one gives relevance to this stat or not is another thing.
D
Deleted member 771911
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Thanks. Ok. Hmmmm. Yeah I am not sure about this stat. I think it just says no ATGs have been produced since Djokovic and that winning a big title twice is an indicator of ATGness?
I'm surprised Cilic never managed it, tbh.
Zebrev
Hall of Fame
He will win way more than just 3 or 4.
Novichok
Professional
InsideOut900
Legend
The first time Murray doubled a title was at Canada 2010.
Djoko never did it before 2011, so AO 2011 was his first.
You need at least 2 M1000 or 2 YEC or 2 Slams to even be in the discussion.
So Wawrinka (3 Slams), Medvedev (3 Masters), Tsonga (2 Masters) and Zverev (4 Masters) are the only candidates.
Plus a bunch of 1 time winners that could technically do it in the future.
And Zverev the only one to win the same big event twice from this list.
Medvedev could do it again with another Cinci/Shanghai/Paris/YEC, which seems plausible.
Mainad
Bionic Poster
The ATP now counts it as a big title.
duaneeo
Legend
Wake me up when someone wins 1 of any slam other than the usual suspects (And no, 2020 USO doesn't count).
