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Novak Djokovic (11 matches, all losses)
2006 'Bosch 2R: lost to Jan Hernych 6-2 6-4
2012 Cincy F: lost to Roger Federer 6-0 7-6(7)
2015 Doha QF: lost to Ivo Karlovic 6-7(2) 7-6(6) 6-4
2015 Cincy F: lost to Roger Federer 7-6(1) 6-3
2016 Dubai QF: lost to Feliciano Lopez 6-3 ret.
2016 Olympics 1R: lost to JMDP 7-6(4) 7-6(2)
2017 IW 4R: lost to Nick Kyrgios 6-4 7-6(3)
2017 Rome F: lost to Alex Zverev 6-4 6-3
2017 WB QF: lost to Tomas Berdych 7-6(2) 2-0 ret.
2024 United Cup QF: lost to Alex de Minaur 6-4 6-4
2024 AO SF: lost to Jannik Sinner 6-1 6-2 6-7(6) 6-3
Notes: Federer features in the list twice (both being Cincinnati finals); only two such losses (one when he was a kid) before 2015; most such losses are clustered (7 in 2015-17 and now 2 in early 2024); 2 slam matches.
Rafael Nadal (20 matches, 2 wins)
2002 Mallorca 2R: lost to Olivier Rochus 6-2 6-2
2003 Hamburg 3R: lost to Gaston Gaudio 6-2 6-2
2003 Umag SF: lost to Carlos Moya 6-4 6-4
2004 Auckland QF: beat Gregory Carraz 2-1 ret.
2004 Milan 2R: lost to Mario Ancic 7-5 6-2
2004 Lyon 1R: lost to Julien Benneteau 6-3 6-0
2007 Sydney 1R: lost to Chris Guccione 6-5 ret.
2007 Madrid QF: lost to David Nalbandian 6-1 6-2
2007 Paris F: lost to David Nalbandian 6-4 6-0
2008 Chennai F: lost to Mikhail Youzhny 6-0 6-1
2009 Paris SF: lost to Novak Djokovic 6-2 6-3
2011 Shanghai 3R: lost to Florian Mayer 7-6(5) 6-3
2011 YEC RR: lost to Roger Federer 6-3 6-0
2013 Cincy F: beat John Isner 7-6(8) 7-6(3)
2013 Beijing F: lost to Novak Djokovic 6-3 6-4
2015 YEC SF: lost to Novak Djokovic 6-3 6-3
2016 Shanghai 2R: lost to Viktor Troicki 6-3 7-6(3)
2017 Shanghai F: lost to Roger Federer 6-4 6-3
2019 YEC RR: lost to Alex Zverev 6-2 6-4
2022 YEC RR: lost to Taylor Fritz 7-6(3) 6-1
Notes: 6 matches when Nadal was a wee teen (including one where his opponent retired 3 games in); 11 of the next 14 such matches occurred in the post-USO season (2 of the 3 being AO preps where Nadal was physically bad and the third being a victory, thanks Big John), with multiple such losses against three opponents (Djokovic 3, Federer 2, Nalbandian 2).
Roger Federer (15 matches, 2 wins)
1999 MC 1R: lost to Vincent Spadea 7-6(3) 6-0
1999 Vienna SF: lost to Greg Rusedski 6-3 6-4
2000 Auckland 1R: lost to JCF 6-4 6-4
2000 Miami 2R: lost to Mariano Zabaleta 6-4 7-6(7)
2000 St Poelten 1R: lost to Marcus Hantschk 6-2 6-1
2002 Dubai 2R: lost to Rainer Schuettler 6-3 6-1
2002 MC 2R: lost to David Nalbandian 6-2 6-1
2002 Moscow QF: lost to Marat Safin 7-5 6-4
2004 Miami 3R: lost to Rafael Nadal 6-3 6-3
2007 Canada 2R: beat Ivo Karlovic 7-6(2) 7-6(3)
2008 Dubai 1R: lost to Andy Murray 6-7(6) 6-3 6-4
2011 Cincy QF: lost to Tomas Berdych 6-2 7-6(3)
2014 Canada F: lost to Jo-Wilfried Tsonga 7-5 7-6(3)
2015 Halle SF: beat Ivo Karlovic 7-6(3) 7-6(4)
2018 Shanghai SF: lost to Borna Coric 6-4 6-4
Notes: 8 such losses before 2003 and only 5 afterwards; all losses to different opponents; both wins over peaking Karlobot.
Andy Murray (18 matches, all losses)
2006 Las Vegas 1R: lost to Tommy Robredo 6-2 6-2
2006 Newport SF: lost to Justin Gimelstob 6-1 7-6(4)
2007 Cincy 1R: lost to Marcos Baghdatis 6-1 6-2
2008 WB QF: lost to Rafael Nadal 6-3 6-2 6-4
2009 IW F: lost to Rafael Nadal 6-1 6-2
2009 Cincy SF: lost to Roger Federer 6-2 7-6(8)
2010 MC 2R: lost to Philipp Kohlschreiber 6-2 6-1
2010 Beijing QF: lost to Ivan Ljubicic 6-3 6-2
2010 YEC RR: lost to Roger Federer 6-4 6-2
2013 USO QF: lost to Stan Wawrinka 6-3 6-4 6-2
2014 RG SF: lost to Rafael Nadal 6-3 6-2 6-1
2014 YEC RR: lost to Roger Federer 6-0 6-1
2015 Dubai QF: lost to Borna Coric 6-1 6-3
2015 Cincy SF: lost to Roger Federer 6-4 7-6(6)
2020 USO 2R: lost to FAA 6-2 6-3 6-4
2022 Dubai 2R: lost to Jannik Sinner 7-5 6-2
2022 Miami 2R: lost to Daniil Medvedev 6-4 6-2
2023 MC 1R: lost to Alex de Minaur 6-1 6-3
Notes: 3 such losses before 2008 and 4 in his post-hip comeback; multiple losses against two different opponents (Federer 4, Nadal 3); 4 slam matches.
What can it tell us?
2006 'Bosch 2R: lost to Jan Hernych 6-2 6-4
2012 Cincy F: lost to Roger Federer 6-0 7-6(7)
2015 Doha QF: lost to Ivo Karlovic 6-7(2) 7-6(6) 6-4
2015 Cincy F: lost to Roger Federer 7-6(1) 6-3
2016 Dubai QF: lost to Feliciano Lopez 6-3 ret.
2016 Olympics 1R: lost to JMDP 7-6(4) 7-6(2)
2017 IW 4R: lost to Nick Kyrgios 6-4 7-6(3)
2017 Rome F: lost to Alex Zverev 6-4 6-3
2017 WB QF: lost to Tomas Berdych 7-6(2) 2-0 ret.
2024 United Cup QF: lost to Alex de Minaur 6-4 6-4
2024 AO SF: lost to Jannik Sinner 6-1 6-2 6-7(6) 6-3
Notes: Federer features in the list twice (both being Cincinnati finals); only two such losses (one when he was a kid) before 2015; most such losses are clustered (7 in 2015-17 and now 2 in early 2024); 2 slam matches.
Rafael Nadal (20 matches, 2 wins)
2002 Mallorca 2R: lost to Olivier Rochus 6-2 6-2
2003 Hamburg 3R: lost to Gaston Gaudio 6-2 6-2
2003 Umag SF: lost to Carlos Moya 6-4 6-4
2004 Auckland QF: beat Gregory Carraz 2-1 ret.
2004 Milan 2R: lost to Mario Ancic 7-5 6-2
2004 Lyon 1R: lost to Julien Benneteau 6-3 6-0
2007 Sydney 1R: lost to Chris Guccione 6-5 ret.
2007 Madrid QF: lost to David Nalbandian 6-1 6-2
2007 Paris F: lost to David Nalbandian 6-4 6-0
2008 Chennai F: lost to Mikhail Youzhny 6-0 6-1
2009 Paris SF: lost to Novak Djokovic 6-2 6-3
2011 Shanghai 3R: lost to Florian Mayer 7-6(5) 6-3
2011 YEC RR: lost to Roger Federer 6-3 6-0
2013 Cincy F: beat John Isner 7-6(8) 7-6(3)
2013 Beijing F: lost to Novak Djokovic 6-3 6-4
2015 YEC SF: lost to Novak Djokovic 6-3 6-3
2016 Shanghai 2R: lost to Viktor Troicki 6-3 7-6(3)
2017 Shanghai F: lost to Roger Federer 6-4 6-3
2019 YEC RR: lost to Alex Zverev 6-2 6-4
2022 YEC RR: lost to Taylor Fritz 7-6(3) 6-1
Notes: 6 matches when Nadal was a wee teen (including one where his opponent retired 3 games in); 11 of the next 14 such matches occurred in the post-USO season (2 of the 3 being AO preps where Nadal was physically bad and the third being a victory, thanks Big John), with multiple such losses against three opponents (Djokovic 3, Federer 2, Nalbandian 2).
Roger Federer (15 matches, 2 wins)
1999 MC 1R: lost to Vincent Spadea 7-6(3) 6-0
1999 Vienna SF: lost to Greg Rusedski 6-3 6-4
2000 Auckland 1R: lost to JCF 6-4 6-4
2000 Miami 2R: lost to Mariano Zabaleta 6-4 7-6(7)
2000 St Poelten 1R: lost to Marcus Hantschk 6-2 6-1
2002 Dubai 2R: lost to Rainer Schuettler 6-3 6-1
2002 MC 2R: lost to David Nalbandian 6-2 6-1
2002 Moscow QF: lost to Marat Safin 7-5 6-4
2004 Miami 3R: lost to Rafael Nadal 6-3 6-3
2007 Canada 2R: beat Ivo Karlovic 7-6(2) 7-6(3)
2008 Dubai 1R: lost to Andy Murray 6-7(6) 6-3 6-4
2011 Cincy QF: lost to Tomas Berdych 6-2 7-6(3)
2014 Canada F: lost to Jo-Wilfried Tsonga 7-5 7-6(3)
2015 Halle SF: beat Ivo Karlovic 7-6(3) 7-6(4)
2018 Shanghai SF: lost to Borna Coric 6-4 6-4
Notes: 8 such losses before 2003 and only 5 afterwards; all losses to different opponents; both wins over peaking Karlobot.
Andy Murray (18 matches, all losses)
2006 Las Vegas 1R: lost to Tommy Robredo 6-2 6-2
2006 Newport SF: lost to Justin Gimelstob 6-1 7-6(4)
2007 Cincy 1R: lost to Marcos Baghdatis 6-1 6-2
2008 WB QF: lost to Rafael Nadal 6-3 6-2 6-4
2009 IW F: lost to Rafael Nadal 6-1 6-2
2009 Cincy SF: lost to Roger Federer 6-2 7-6(8)
2010 MC 2R: lost to Philipp Kohlschreiber 6-2 6-1
2010 Beijing QF: lost to Ivan Ljubicic 6-3 6-2
2010 YEC RR: lost to Roger Federer 6-4 6-2
2013 USO QF: lost to Stan Wawrinka 6-3 6-4 6-2
2014 RG SF: lost to Rafael Nadal 6-3 6-2 6-1
2014 YEC RR: lost to Roger Federer 6-0 6-1
2015 Dubai QF: lost to Borna Coric 6-1 6-3
2015 Cincy SF: lost to Roger Federer 6-4 7-6(6)
2020 USO 2R: lost to FAA 6-2 6-3 6-4
2022 Dubai 2R: lost to Jannik Sinner 7-5 6-2
2022 Miami 2R: lost to Daniil Medvedev 6-4 6-2
2023 MC 1R: lost to Alex de Minaur 6-1 6-3
Notes: 3 such losses before 2008 and 4 in his post-hip comeback; multiple losses against two different opponents (Federer 4, Nadal 3); 4 slam matches.
What can it tell us?
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