A question about forehand swing

iamlate

New User
Hello,

I have a question about my forehand swing. Besides the general feedback I could use, I am concerned about the way my racket head lifts before I start swinging the racket forward. I think my technique is closer to the so called “next-gen” with a slappy motion, however I notice besides Tsitsipas, no one has their racket heads moving to a vertical angle (like a loop), before they start swinging forward.
Do you think it is a problem I should try to fix ? Do you see any other red flags ?
Here is a youtube link to my forehand swing


thank you
 

ballmachineguy

Hall of Fame
Just looks like your “flip” to lag is a more gradual one that just start earlier than most next gener’s. I suppose you could hold the racquet in the position you get at your unit turn a bit longer, if it bothers you. Maybe you would get a hair more spin.
 

iamlate

New User
Just looks like your “flip” to lag is a more gradual one that just start earlier than most next gener’s. I suppose you could hold the racquet in the position you get at your unit turn a bit longer, if it bothers you. Maybe you would get a hair more spin.
Thank you for your reply :) Could you elaborate on unit turn ? I am not very experienced on the technical terms yet
 

nyta2

Hall of Fame
Hello,

I have a question about my forehand swing. Besides the general feedback I could use, I am concerned about the way my racket head lifts before I start swinging the racket forward. I think my technique is closer to the so called “next-gen” with a slappy motion, however I notice besides Tsitsipas, no one has their racket heads moving to a vertical angle (like a loop), before they start swinging forward.
Do you think it is a problem I should try to fix ? Do you see any other red flags ?
Here is a youtube link to my forehand swing


thank you
"lifting the racket head" just looks like you're making your loop bigger...
PRO: more rhs
CON: need more time to prep and/or more practice (particularly against big hitters)...

i think guys like thiem, who have big loopy fh's, will also stand further back in the court, to give himself time to trace the "big loop"


personally i prefer a smaller loop, better for returns, let's me play closer to the baseline, same type of loop used in the short court (eg. small/no loop)
 

iamlate

New User
I have been just experimenting with my swing actually (without a ball). I noticed if I keep my wrist more straight (even bent forward instead of in a lagging way) while loading the racket, the racket head naturally seems to stay a lot more horizontal
 

iamlate

New User
"lifting the racket head" just looks like you're making your loop bigger...
PRO: more rhs
CON: need more time to prep and/or more practice (particularly against big hitters)...

i think guys like thiem, who have big loopy fh's, will also stand further back in the court, to give himself time to trace the "big loop"


personally i prefer a smaller loop, better for returns, let's me play closer to the baseline, same type of loop used in the short court (eg. small/no loop)
I see, he seems to have backed away from it and found more of a hybrid it seems
 

nyta2

Hall of Fame
I see, he seems to have backed away from it and found more of a hybrid it seems
a drill i used to do... baseline rally, with *both* feet *inside* the baseline...
my swing loop naturally became smaller as i didn't have enough time to take a big loop.
warning: incredibly frustrating in the beginning :p
 

iamlate

New User
a drill i used to do... baseline rally, with *both* feet *inside* the baseline...
my swing loop naturally became smaller as i didn't have enough time to take a big loop.
warning: incredibly frustrating in the beginning :p
Interesting :) Thank you for the suggestion, I will try !
 
In your video, your preparation seemed to be late and rushed to open up to contact the ball. There is no separation of hip and shoulder rotation. In @nyta2 's video, Thiem's hip opens up slightly earlier than the shoulder (separation) and transmitting the power from legs, torso, arm, racket in a sequential manner. You seemed to be tensed up a bit at shoulder and hitting with rotation of the whole body (hip and shoulder at the same time).
 

iamlate

New User
In your video, your preparation seemed to be late and rushed to open up to contact the ball. There is no separation of hip and shoulder rotation. In @nyta2 's video, Thiem's hip opens up slightly earlier than the shoulder (separation) and transmitting the power from legs, torso, arm, racket in a sequential manner. You seemed to be tensed up a bit at shoulder and hitting with rotation of the whole body (hip and shoulder at the same time).
Thank you, I think you are probably very right about hip and shoulder separation. I didn’t improve that much yet. Do you have any tips for me to practice that ?
 
Thank you, I think you are probably very right about hip and shoulder separation. I didn’t improve that much yet. Do you have any tips for me to practice that ?
It is best to start from drop feed so that you can get the feeling. The key is to relax shoulder and arm. Rotate/recoil your hip to start your forward swing and feel how the rest of your body will effortlessly follow. Once you get the feeling, you can start hitting live balls. Make sure to take back early, so that your forward-swing won't be rushed. Good luck!
 

ballmachineguy

Hall of Fame
Thank you for your reply :) Could you elaborate on unit turn ? I am not very experienced on the technical terms yet
It is that approximately 90 degree turn made from your chest facing your opponent to your non-dominant shoulder pointed toward opponent. Where both hands are on the racquet.
 
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