A. Zverev to win Australin Open 2018!

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I'm calling it now.

Zverev pushed Nadal to 5 this year and this was no below par Nadal, as we now know. For the first three sets he was more than a match for Nadal from the baseline, ultimately fatigue did him in (which explains his lacklusture results in majors generally.)

But next year, Zverev will have an extra years worth of experience. He should be fitter, he likes to talk about how much muscle he puts on so he'll have an extra year of muscle and strength. Nadal can't play any better than this year, Federer is 36 while Djoko and Murray may not be in top form right after their comeback. Zverev will be capable of beating these guys and should be the best of the rest of the field.

Ofc his results in majors have been poor, he's overdue a big run and i believe this major will be the first one. He's won two masters this year which is a huge step and he should take another big step next year.

So i'm tipping Zverev as the Aus open Champion 2018. Famous last words.
 
How is he going to get an extra year of muscle and strength come January? unless hes hopped on roids. he's not just going to magically grow overnight during the off-season.
especially since hes playing the WTF coming up. thats 2 months max of off-season training he's going to get.
 
I actually think this is very possible.

Sasha will be very hungry to prove he's capable of going far in slams after his bad performances this year. I think he has a good chance to go all the way. No way Nadal or Federer are able to hold up their form from this season and the returning players will be rusty.
 
papertank said:
I actually think this is very possible.

Sasha will be very hungry to prove he's capable of going far in slams after his bad performances this year. I think he has a good chance to go all the way. No way Nadal or Federer are able to hold up their form from this season and the returning players will be rusty.
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That's what i'm thinking.

He had a big opportunity in this years US open but he wasn't ready to grasp it, no way he should be losing to Coric. He'll have learned from that.

The GOAT Federer never made it past a QF before he suddenly won his first Wimbledon, like Zverev he'd underachieved in majors till them. I foresee Zverev making a similar breakthrough.
 
One thing counting against him is if he runs into an in form Dimitrov or Cilic or Nishikori. Those guys are capable of beating him Whereas they usually fold if they play a big four. (US open 2014 being an exception.)

But unlike those guys Zverev has shown he can play the big four without being inhibited by their pedigree. Overall he has more chance than any of them. Also has pwned Wawrinka in their meetings :)
 
He struggles extremely hard at best of 5 sets and you pick the hottest (weather wise) major tournament of the 4 for him to win his first major ???!!!
 
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Purplemonster said:
He struggles extremely hard at best of 5 sets and you pick the hottest (weather wise) major tournament of the 4 for him to win his first major ???!!!
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I don't think it's a best of 5, I think Sasha just tends to struggle in the first few rounds in general. If you look back at some of his good runs this year, many include early round matches where he barely won against a low ranked opponent.
 
Zverev had an incredible set up this year at the USO to get very far. On paper he should have made the final and he didn't get anywhere close. Eventually he's going to improve but winning a grand slam is a massive jump and I don't his game becoming substantially better between now and then.

As long as they are healthy the big three are the favorites in Australia.
 
George Turner said:
I'm calling it now.

Zverev pushed Nadal to 5 this year and this was no below par Nadal, as we now know. For the first three sets he was more than a match for Nadal from the baseline, ultimately fatigue did him in (which explains his lacklusture results in majors generally.)

But next year, Zverev will have an extra years worth of experience. He should be fitter, he likes to talk about how much muscle he puts on so he'll have an extra year of muscle and strength. Nadal can't play any better than this year, Federer is 36 while Djoko and Murray may not be in top form right after their comeback. Zverev will be capable of beating these guys and should be the best of the rest of the field.

Ofc his results in majors have been poor, he's overdue a big run and i believe this major will be the first one. He's won two masters this year which is a huge step and he should take another big step next year.

So i'm tipping Zverev as the Aus open Champion 2018. Famous last words.
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No doubt it's a good surface for Zverev and he's vastly improved from one year ago, but the problem is Nadal. Nadal's game is markedly better though he did play better at Auz than IW or Miami last year.:oops:

These young players generally bump up a level over the off-season so Zverev will be dangerous, stronger, more efficient on serve, and have much greater stamina than even now.:eek:
 
George Turner said:
One thing counting against him is if he runs into an in form Dimitrov or Cilic or Nishikori. Those guys are capable of beating him Whereas they usually fold if they play a big four. (US open 2014 being an exception.)

But unlike those guys Zverev has shown he can play the big four without being inhibited by their pedigree. Overall he has more chance than any of them. Also has pwned Wawrinka in their meetings :)
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Cilic and Nishikori don't count much:rolleyes::
18/2017 R32 Madrid Masters Clay Alexander Zverev Marin Cilic 6-7(3) 6-3 6-4 1.83 - 1.83
40/2016 R32 Shanghai Masters Hard Alexander Zverev Marin Cilic 3-6 6-3 6-2 2.50 - 1.54
5/2016 R16 Montpellier I Hard Alexander Zverev Marin Cilic 7-6(4) 7-6(1) 4.00 - 1.23
32/2015 QF Washington Hard Marin Cilic Alexander Zverev 7-5 7-6(3) 1.16 - 5.20
31/2017 SF Washington Hard Alexander Zverev Kei Nishikori 6-3 6-4 1.80 - 1.95

Zverev is the king of baseline domination and even Dimitrov may not be a big threat to him at Auz:eek::
18/2016 R64 Rome Masters Clay Alexander Zverev Grigor Dimitrov 6-1 6-4 2.05 - 1.74
10/2016 R64 Indian Wells Masters Hard Alexander Zverev Grigor Dimitrov 6-4 3-6 7-5 3.20 - 1.36
43/2014 R32 Basel Hard Grigor Dimitrov Alexander Zverev 2-6 6-4 6-2 1.17 - 5.81

The Zedbot owns many players, but not Nadal.:confused:
 
It's not a bad shout actually.. He'll be among the top 3 favorites for sure. (Assuming Djoker, Stan and Murray aren't match for by that time)
 
papertank said:
I actually think this is very possible.

Sasha will be very hungry to prove he's capable of going far in slams after his bad performances this year. I think he has a good chance to go all the way. No way Nadal or Federer are able to hold up their form from this season and the returning players will be rusty.
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Maybe so, but I feel like he will be so full of himself going into the AO that he will look past another journeyman and lose in an early round. Same thing that happened in the USO. He bought into all the hype surrounding himself and got embarrased. I was pulling for him then, but what turned me off to him was the complete lack of respect he had for Coric in the post match interview. It was all "me, me, me. I could have won, should have won, I played poorly, I let myself down, etc, etc." Never once did he even acknowledge the fact that the man on the other end of the court played a hell of a match. He's an awesome talent and has great size. He's the prototype for a big hitting baseliner, plus he has other elements of his game that make him exciting to watch. I just don't like the guy. He's "fake" humble when he wins, but he's a downright ***** when he loses. Nothing but excuses. Anyway, what do I know? Carry on...
 
George Turner said:
I'm calling it now.
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And you're the same guy claiming Andy Murray has superior groundstrokes to Agassi, so your prediction can be tossed into the trashcan right now.
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AgassiFan88 said:
Maybe so, but I feel like he will be so full of himself going into the AO that he will look past another journeyman and lose in an early round. Same thing that happened in the USO. He bought into all the hype surrounding himself and got embarrased. I was pulling for him then, but what turned me off to him was the complete lack of respect he had for Coric in the post match interview. It was all "me, me, me. I could have won, should have won, I played poorly, I let myself down, etc, etc." Never once did he even acknowledge the fact that the man on the other end of the court played a hell of a match. He's an awesome talent and has great size. He's the prototype for a big hitting baseliner, plus he has other elements of his game that make him exciting to watch. I just don't like the guy. He's "fake" humble when he wins, but he's a downright ***** when he loses. Nothing but excuses. Anyway, what do I know? Carry on...
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Coric, RaoMug, and Fiasco inexcusable losses
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George Turner said:
I'm calling it now.

Zverev pushed Nadal to 5 this year and this was no below par Nadal, as we now know. For the first three sets he was more than a match for Nadal from the baseline, ultimately fatigue did him in (which explains his lacklusture results in majors generally.)

But next year, Zverev will have an extra years worth of experience. He should be fitter, he likes to talk about how much muscle he puts on so he'll have an extra year of muscle and strength. Nadal can't play any better than this year, Federer is 36 while Djoko and Murray may not be in top form right after their comeback. Zverev will be capable of beating these guys and should be the best of the rest of the field.

Ofc his results in majors have been poor, he's overdue a big run and i believe this major will be the first one. He's won two masters this year which is a huge step and he should take another big step next year.

So i'm tipping Zverev as the Aus open Champion 2018. Famous last words.
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Third round max, no way he'll reach week two.
 
George Turner said:
I'm calling it now.

Zverev pushed Nadal to 5 this year and this was no below par Nadal, as we now know. For the first three sets he was more than a match for Nadal from the baseline, ultimately fatigue did him in (which explains his lacklusture results in majors generally.)

But next year, Zverev will have an extra years worth of experience. He should be fitter, he likes to talk about how much muscle he puts on so he'll have an extra year of muscle and strength. Nadal can't play any better than this year, Federer is 36 while Djoko and Murray may not be in top form right after their comeback. Zverev will be capable of beating these guys and should be the best of the rest of the field.

Ofc his results in majors have been poor, he's overdue a big run and i believe this major will be the first one. He's won two masters this year which is a huge step and he should take another big step next year.

So i'm tipping Zverev as the Aus open Champion 2018. Famous last words.
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Brave words for a guy who has never yet got past the 3rd round in Melbourne or past the 4th round at any Slam! :cool:
 
MichaelNadal said:
He's not THE favorite, but he is a favorite, and I think people are silly that think he'll never win a slam.
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99.999% of savvy tennis fans will calmly say that Zverev is not winning the AO in January at the age of 20. Yet many of those same people can (and do) think he'll eventually win a major. But that's not happening anytime soon.
 
BeatlesFan said:
99.999% of savvy tennis fans will calmly say that Zverev is not winning the AO in January at the age of 20. Yet many of those same people can (and do) think he'll eventually win a major. But that's not happening anytime soon.
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Why not though? We are rolling into 2018, it's not like Fedal can win majors forever. Hell, watch out for Thiem too, he's a real contender for the FO.
 
BeatlesFan said:
99.999% of savvy tennis fans will calmly say that Zverev is not winning the AO in January at the age of 20. Yet many of those same people can (and do) think he'll eventually win a major. But that's not happening anytime soon.
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I disagree. I'm not much of a Zverev fan but he's already won two Masters 1000s, something which Del Potro, for example, has never done.
Zverev may not be ready to win the AO 2018, but he's the only younger player on track to win a slam sooner than later. It could happen in 2018.
 
George Turner said:
I'm calling it now.

Zverev pushed Nadal to 5 this year and this was no below par Nadal, as we now know. For the first three sets he was more than a match for Nadal from the baseline, ultimately fatigue did him in (which explains his lacklusture results in majors generally.)

But next year, Zverev will have an extra years worth of experience. He should be fitter, he likes to talk about how much muscle he puts on so he'll have an extra year of muscle and strength. Nadal can't play any better than this year, Federer is 36 while Djoko and Murray may not be in top form right after their comeback. Zverev will be capable of beating these guys and should be the best of the rest of the field.

Ofc his results in majors have been poor, he's overdue a big run and i believe this major will be the first one. He's won two masters this year which is a huge step and he should take another big step next year.

So i'm tipping Zverev as the Aus open Champion 2018. Famous last words.
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Evidently, playing Rafa close is the benchmark of greatness even if you just take a set against him and lose the match. Imagine the greatness taking not 1 but 2 sets off Nadal!

How long, do you think, before Sasha wins the CYGS?
 
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George Turner said:
I'm calling it now.

Zverev pushed Nadal to 5 this year and this was no below par Nadal, as we now know. For the first three sets he was more than a match for Nadal from the baseline, ultimately fatigue did him in (which explains his lacklusture results in majors generally.)

But next year, Zverev will have an extra years worth of experience. He should be fitter, he likes to talk about how much muscle he puts on so he'll have an extra year of muscle and strength. Nadal can't play any better than this year, Federer is 36 while Djoko and Murray may not be in top form right after their comeback. Zverev will be capable of beating these guys and should be the best of the rest of the field.

Ofc his results in majors have been poor, he's overdue a big run and i believe this major will be the first one. He's won two masters this year which is a huge step and he should take another big step next year.

So i'm tipping Zverev as the Aus open Champion 2018. Famous last words.
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Wrong.

I have it on good authority from someone in the know that Sam Groth is going to win AO18.
 
cc0509 said:
I disagree. I'm not much of a Zverev fan but he's already won two Masters 1000s, something which Del Potro, for example, has never done.
Zverev may not be ready to win the AO 2018, but he's the only younger player on track to win a slam sooner than later. It could happen in 2018.
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Hi @cc0509
I signed in to write that I agree 100% with you.
Alexander Zverev's tennis is extremely boring, but he should be a contender for the title.

Now, my answer to all those claiming that he sucks in best of 5 sets matches: do you really think it will last forever? He did not do well in slams this year, so he will never do well? Is that your logic?
Then, how come did Jo-Wilfried reach a final in Australia? How come did Kei Nishikori go though this draw from hell at the US Open?
You cannot make predictions by looking at the past only. Bros.
 
George Turner said:
That is correct yes. At some point he will make his major breakthrough and i'm calling it here. He'll be better than the Zverev who lost in five to Nadal this year.
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Just keep making the same prediction for each slam and maybe you'll get lucky sooner or later, if he stays healthy.

But even if I were a betting many, I'd never make a bet on his winning AO 2018.
 
Gary Duane said:
Just keep making the same prediction for each slam and maybe you'll get lucky sooner or later, if he stays healthy.

But even if I were a betting many, I'd never make a bet on his winning AO 2018.
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Go each way then, you still make money if he reaches the final :D

This is the first major i've predicted Zverev to win, i wasn't one of those who picked him for this years US open. He won't win the French or Wimbledon next year. Dunno about the US open, too far away.
 
George Turner said:
Go each way then, you still make money if he reaches the final :D

This is the first major i've predicted Zverev to win, i wasn't one of those who picked him for this years US open.
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I still don't trust his game at the highest level because it is not well-rounded yet.

This doesn't say that it can't get there in a year or so, but he really needs to improve his net game. I think his game is too one-dimensional, and it still has a lot of shock value on older players, but up and coming players are going to test his weaknesses.
 
Gary Duane said:
I still don't trust his game at the highest level because it is not well-rounded yet.

This doesn't say that it can't get there in a year or so, but he really needs to improve his net game. I think his game is too one-dimensional, and it still has a lot of shock value on older players, but up and coming players are going to test his weaknesses.
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His game is well rounded, he's a player whose good in all departments but is not outstanding in any atm. Apart from his net game which is a weakness but when did you last see a young player with a great net game? :(

i would like to see him develop more of a net game as he's a naturally aggressive hard court player. Hopefully at next years AO he shows more in that department
 
George Turner said:
His game is well rounded, he's a player whose good in all departments but is not outstanding in any atm. Apart from his net game which is a weakness but when did you last see a young player with a great net game? :(

i would like to see him develop more of a net game as he's a naturally aggressive hard court player. Hopefully at next years AO he shows more in that department
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Last young player with a great net game - can I think about it for a week? :D
 
SafinSucks said:
Hi @cc0509
I signed in to write that I agree 100% with you.
Alexander Zverev's tennis is extremely boring, but he should be a contender for the title.

Now, my answer to all those claiming that he sucks in best of 5 sets matches: do you really think it will last forever? He did not do well in slams this year, so he will never do well? Is that your logic?
Then, how come did Jo-Wilfried reach a final in Australia? How come did Kei Nishikori go though this draw from hell at the US Open?
You cannot make predictions by looking at the past only. Bros.
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Well, Zverev just lost to Del Potro in Shanghai. :rolleyes:

But, he's only 20 and looks like he's the most likely out of the Thiem, Zverev, Kyrgios generation to win a slam. Winning two Masters 1000s at age 20 and defeating Big Four players are the encouraging signs. I don't think he'll win the AO 2018 but he could win a slam in 2018 if he continues to improve. We'll see.
 
Meles said:
Cilic and Nishikori don't count much:rolleyes::
18/2017 R32 Madrid Masters Clay Alexander Zverev Marin Cilic 6-7(3) 6-3 6-4 1.83 - 1.83
40/2016 R32 Shanghai Masters Hard Alexander Zverev Marin Cilic 3-6 6-3 6-2 2.50 - 1.54
5/2016 R16 Montpellier I Hard Alexander Zverev Marin Cilic 7-6(4) 7-6(1) 4.00 - 1.23
32/2015 QF Washington Hard Marin Cilic Alexander Zverev 7-5 7-6(3) 1.16 - 5.20
31/2017 SF Washington Hard Alexander Zverev Kei Nishikori 6-3 6-4 1.80 - 1.95

Zverev is the king of baseline domination and even Dimitrov may not be a big threat to him at Auz:eek::
18/2016 R64 Rome Masters Clay Alexander Zverev Grigor Dimitrov 6-1 6-4 2.05 - 1.74
10/2016 R64 Indian Wells Masters Hard Alexander Zverev Grigor Dimitrov 6-4 3-6 7-5 3.20 - 1.36
43/2014 R32 Basel Hard Grigor Dimitrov Alexander Zverev 2-6 6-4 6-2 1.17 - 5.81

The Zedbot owns many players, but not Nadal.:confused:
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couldn't dominate no BH Delpo with his GOAT 2nd serve and BH eh
 
MichaelNadal said:
Why not though? We are rolling into 2018, it's not like Fedal can win majors forever. Hell, watch out for Thiem too, he's a real contender for the FO.
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Maybe I'm a little biased, but I would love to see a healthy, focused Stan win the FO so he completes the CGS and then we could separate him from Murray and finally give the guy some credit. (Chorus of boos from Nadal fans.)
 
cc0509 said:
Well, Zverev just lost to Del Potro in Shanghai. :rolleyes:

But, he's only 20 and looks like he's the most likely out of the Thiem, Zverev, Kyrgios generation to win a slam. Winning two Masters 1000s at age 20 and defeating Big Four players are the encouraging signs. I don't think he'll win the AO 2018 but he could win a slam in 2018 if he continues to improve. We'll see.
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And see we shall. I just feel like it'll be 2019 or 2020 before hehe's mature enough to pull it off.
 
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