N01E

Hall of Fame
In the last couple of years we've seen a lot of new big title champions, especially compared to 2011-2013 where Ferrer was the only one to make that breakthrough. Since we have a lot of 1 M1000 (which I'll just refer to M for short) winners I decided to look at all of them (and the more accomplished players). Some of whom will be retired very soon. The ranking criteria are as follows:

1. Number of GS won
2. Number of YEC won
3. Number of M1000 won
4. GS finals
5. YEC finals
6. M finals
7. GS SF
8. YEC SF
9. M SF
10. GS QF
11. YEC QF
12. M QF

I didn't feature the Olympics as a big title, but what is interesting is that they wouldn't have changed any placement on the list.

1. Djokovic - 23 GS, 6 YEC, 39 M
2. Nadal - 22 GS, 36 M
3. Murray - 3 GS, 1 YEC, 14 M
4. Wawrinka - 3 GS, 1 M
5. Alcaraz - 2 GS, 4 M

6. Medvedev - 1 GS, 1 YEC, 6 M
7. Thiem - 1 GS, 1 M, (3 GS-F)
8. Cilic - 1 GS, 1 M, (2 GS-F)

9. Zverev - 2 YEC, 5 M
10. Tsitsipas - 1 YEC, 2 M
11. Dimitrov - 1 YEC, 1 M

12. Isner - 1 M (3 M-F)
13. Sinner - 1 M (2 M-F, 1 GS-SF)
14. Rublev - 1 M (2 M-F, 2 M-SF)
15. Rune - 1 M (2 M-F)
16. Hurkacz - 1 M (1 M-F, 1 GS-SF)
17. Coric - 1 M (1 M-F, 2 M-SF)
18. Kchachanov - 1 M (2 GS-SF, 3 GS QF)
19. Carreno Busta - 1 M (2 GS-SF, 2 GS QF)
20. Norrie - 1 M (1 GS-SF)
21. Fritz - 1 M (1 YEC-SF, 2 M-SF)
22. Sock - 1 M (1 YEC-SF)
23. Fognini - 1 M (1 M-SF)


As we can see, there are currently no mulit Masters 1000 champions who haven't won a higher tier event (YEC or GS). I was surprised how close some of them were (Hurkacz-Coric, Khachanov-Busta, Fritz-Sock). Isner retiring as the most accomplished big titles player (without YEC or GS) is also not something I expected. I think that the current YEC and GS champions list makes sense (Masters 1000 are a bit messy), but we'll see how it will go in the future.
 
Last edited:

Djokodalerer31

Hall of Fame
Isner and Sock are no longer active players, so they will obviously be forever stuck with just 1 masters now, but what do you think about others on the list? Who else will move up from just one, that they won by adding at least one more? Most recently Hurkacz did it, Sinner, Rublev, Rune and Fritz obviously will have more chances in future and i wouldn't even rule out another one for Norrie as well (though in his case he will need tremendous luck, but with oppurtinities presenting themselves 9 times in a year regularly every season and most recent trend of underwhelming draws and competition it's not too crazy to predict he may eventually luck out another masters title some time in the future...), but what about people like Cilic, Thiem, Dimitrov, Wawrinka, Fognini, Carreno Busta, Khachanov and Coric? Cilic, Wawrinka, Fognini and Carreno Busta look like they are done at this point, but do you see brief career rises for Thiem, Dimitrov, Khachanov and Coric to snatch another masters title at certain point?
 

N01E

Hall of Fame
2023 YEC Update:

1. Djokovic - 24 GS, 7 YEC, 40 M
2. Nadal - 22 GS, 36 M
3. Murray - 3 GS, 1 YEC, 14 M
4. Wawrinka - 3 GS, 1 M
5. Alcaraz - 2 GS, 4 M

6. Medvedev - 1 GS, 1 YEC, 6 M
7. Thiem - 1 GS, 1 M, (3 GS-F)
8. Cilic - 1 GS, 1 M, (2 GS-F)

9. Zverev - 2 YEC, 5 M
10. Tsitsipas - 1 YEC, 2 M
11. Dimitrov - 1 YEC, 1 M

12. Hurkacz - 2 M

13. Sinner - 1 M (1 YEC-F, 2 M-F, 1 GS-SF)
14. Rublev - 1 M (3 M-F, 3 M-SF)
15. Rune - 1 M (2 M-F)
16. Coric - 1 M (1 M-F, 2 M-SF)
17. Kchachanov - 1 M (2 GS-SF, 3 GS QF)
18. Carreno Busta - 1 M (2 GS-SF, 2 GS QF)
19. Norrie - 1 M (1 GS-SF)
20. Fritz - 1 M (1 YEC-SF, 2 M-SF)
21. Fognini - 1 M (1 M-SF)

Almost the exact same order as it was after Canada, with Hurkacz being the only player to move up not due to others retiring (Isner and Sock), and is now in his own tier (multi M1000 champions without YEC or GS). Rublev came extremely close to taking his place (was one point away in Shanghai), which would have also given us 4 multi M1000 champions in a single year (!). He also had his chances in Paris, but couldn't beat Djokovic there.

Isner and Sock are no longer active players, so they will obviously be forever stuck with just 1 masters now, but what do you think about others on the list? Who else will move up from just one, that they won by adding at least one more? Most recently Hurkacz did it, Sinner, Rublev, Rune and Fritz obviously will have more chances in future and i wouldn't even rule out another one for Norrie as well (though in his case he will need tremendous luck, but with oppurtinities presenting themselves 9 times in a year regularly every season and most recent trend of underwhelming draws and competition it's not too crazy to predict he may eventually luck out another masters title some time in the future...), but what about people like Cilic, Thiem, Dimitrov, Wawrinka, Fognini, Carreno Busta, Khachanov and Coric? Cilic, Wawrinka, Fognini and Carreno Busta look like they are done at this point, but do you see brief career rises for Thiem, Dimitrov, Khachanov and Coric to snatch another masters title at certain point?
Decent call with Dimitrov, seeing as he got to his first big final in almost 6 years not long after this post. I can't see Thiem coming back and Coric getting there again seems very unlikely. Khachanov has some chance (he has those random deep runs from time to time), but I think someone would need to upset the top guys for him. I think Shelton has a good chance of joining this list (though I hope he won't).
 
Last edited:

N01E

Hall of Fame
AO 2024 Update:

1. Djokovic - 24 GS, 7 YEC, 40 M
2. Nadal - 22 GS, 36 M
3. Murray - 3 GS, 1 YEC, 14 M
4. Wawrinka - 3 GS, 1 M
5. Alcaraz - 2 GS, 4 M

6. Medvedev - 1 GS, 1 YEC, 6 M
7. Thiem - 1 GS, 1 M, (3 GS-F)
8. Cilic - 1 GS, 1 M, (2 GS-F)
9. Sinner - 1 GS, 1 M (1 YEC-F)

10. Zverev - 2 YEC, 5 M
11. Tsitsipas - 1 YEC, 2 M
12. Dimitrov - 1 YEC, 1 M

13. Hurkacz - 2 M

14. Rublev - 1 M (3 M-F, 3 M-SF)
15. Rune - 1 M (2 M-F)
16. Coric - 1 M (1 M-F, 2 M-SF)
17. Kchachanov - 1 M (2 GS-SF, 3 GS QF)
18. Carreno Busta - 1 M (2 GS-SF, 2 GS QF)
19. Norrie - 1 M (1 GS-SF)
20. Fritz - 1 M (1 YEC-SF, 2 M-SF)
21. Fognini - 1 M (1 M-SF)

Sinner finally gets rewarded with his consistent post USO form. Jumps 2 whole tiers after AO win. He enters the active 1 time slam champions list as the worst one of them, but should be able to move to #2 there (#7 overall) very quickly ( needs only 1 M1000 win). 5 big titles left before RG.
 
Last edited:

N01E

Hall of Fame
MC 2024 Update:

1. Djokovic - 24 GS, 7 YEC, 40 M
2. Nadal - 22 GS, 36 M
3. Murray - 3 GS, 1 YEC, 14 M
4. Wawrinka - 3 GS, 1 M
5. Alcaraz - 2 GS, 5 M

6. Medvedev - 1 GS, 1 YEC, 6 M
7. Sinner - 1 GS, 2 M
8. Thiem - 1 GS, 1 M, (3 GS-F)
9. Cilic - 1 GS, 1 M, (2 GS-F)

10. Zverev - 2 YEC, 5 M
11. Tsitsipas - 1 YEC, 3 M
12. Dimitrov - 1 YEC, 1 M

13. Hurkacz - 2 M

14. Rublev - 1 M (3 M-F, 3 M-SF)
15. Rune - 1 M (2 M-F)
16. Coric - 1 M (1 M-F, 2 M-SF)
17. Kchachanov - 1 M (2 GS-SF, 3 GS QF)
18. Carreno Busta - 1 M (2 GS-SF, 2 GS QF)
19. Norrie - 1 M (1 GS-SF)
20. Fritz - 1 M (1 YEC-SF, 2 M-SF)
21. Fognini - 1 M (1 M-SF)

IW and MC had no impact on the list, but Miami pushed Sinner to #7.
 

dking68

Legend
MC 2024 Update:

1. Djokovic - 24 GS, 7 YEC, 40 M
2. Nadal - 22 GS, 36 M
3. Murray - 3 GS, 1 YEC, 14 M
4. Wawrinka - 3 GS, 1 M
5. Alcaraz - 2 GS, 5 M

6. Medvedev - 1 GS, 1 YEC, 6 M
7. Sinner - 1 GS, 2 M
8. Thiem - 1 GS, 1 M, (3 GS-F)
9. Cilic - 1 GS, 1 M, (2 GS-F)

10. Zverev - 2 YEC, 5 M
11. Tsitsipas - 1 YEC, 3 M
12. Dimitrov - 1 YEC, 1 M

13. Hurkacz - 2 M

14. Rublev - 1 M (3 M-F, 3 M-SF)
15. Rune - 1 M (2 M-F)
16. Coric - 1 M (1 M-F, 2 M-SF)
17. Kchachanov - 1 M (2 GS-SF, 3 GS QF)
18. Carreno Busta - 1 M (2 GS-SF, 2 GS QF)
19. Norrie - 1 M (1 GS-SF)
20. Fritz - 1 M (1 YEC-SF, 2 M-SF)
21. Fognini - 1 M (1 M-SF)

IW and MC had no impact on the list, but Miami pushed Sinner to #7.
I predict Sinner joins the top five in the list by the end of this year. He will win Wimbledon and/or USO
 

N01E

Hall of Fame
Rome 2024 Update (now with surface categories) :

Overall:

1. Djokovic - 24 GS, 7 YEC, 40 M
2. Nadal - 22 GS, 36 M
3. Murray - 3 GS, 1 YEC, 14 M
4. Wawrinka - 3 GS, 1 M
5. Alcaraz - 2 GS, 5 M

6. Medvedev - 1 GS, 1 YEC, 6 M
7. Sinner - 1 GS, 2 M
8. Thiem - 1 GS, 1 M (3 GS-F)
9. Cilic - 1 GS, 1 M (2 GS-F)

10. Zverev - 2 YEC, 6 M
11. Tsitsipas - 1 YEC, 3 M
12. Dimitrov - 1 YEC, 1 M

13. Rublev - 2 M (3 M-F, 3 M-SF)
14. Hurkacz - 2 M (1 M-F)

15. Rune - 1 M (2 M-F)
16. Coric - 1 M (1 M-F, 2 M-SF)
17. Kchachanov - 1 M (2 GS-SF, 3 GS QF)
18. Carreno Busta - 1 M (2 GS-SF, 2 GS QF)
19. Norrie - 1 M (1 GS-SF)
20. Fritz - 1 M (1 YEC-SF, 3 M-SF)
21. Fognini - 1 M (1 M-SF)


By surface:

Hard:

1. Djokovic - 14 GS, 7 YEC, 29 M
2. Nadal - 6 GS, 10 M
3. Wawrinka - 2 GS

4. Murray - 1 GS, 1 YEC, 12 M
5. Medvedev - 1 GS, 1 YEC, 5 M

6. Alcaraz - 1 GS, 3 M
7. Sinner - 1 GS, 2 M
8. Thiem - 1 GS, 1 M (1 GS-F, 2 YEC-F)
9. Cilic - 1 GS, 1 M (1 GS-F, 2 GS-SF)

10. Zverev - 2 YE, 2 M
11. Dimitrov - 1 YEC, 1 M (2 M-F)
12. Tsitsipas - 1 YEC

13. Hurkacz - 2 M (1 M-F)

14. Coric - 1 M (1 M-F)
15. Khachanov - 1 M (2 GS-SF, 3 M-SF)
16. Carreno Busta - 1 M (2 GS-SF)
17. Fritz - 1 M (1 YEC-SF, 1 M-SF, 1 GS-QF)
18. Norrie - 1 M (1 M-SF)
19. Rune - 1 M (YEC-RR)


Outdoor Hard:

1. Djokovic - 14 GS, 22 M
2. Nadal - 6 GS, 9 M
3. Wawrinka - 2 GS

4. Murray - 1 GS, 10 M
5. Medvedev - 1 GS, 4 M
6. Alcaraz - 1 GS, 3 M
7. Sinner - 1 GS, 2 M
8. Cilic - 1 GS, 1 M (1 GS-F, 2 GS-SF)
9. Thiem - 1 GS, 1 M (1 GS-F)

10. Zverev - 2 M (1 GS-F)
11. Hurkacz - 2 M (1 M-F)

12. Dimitrov - 1 M (1 M-F)
13. Coric - 1 M (1 M-F)
14. Carreno Busta - 1 M (2 GS-SF)
15. Fritz - 1 M (1 M-SF, 1 GS-QF)
16. Norrie - 1 M (1 M-SF)


Indoor Hard:

1. Djokovic - 7 YEC, 7 M
2. Zverev - 2 YEC

3. Murray - 1 YEC, 2 M (1 M-F)
4. Medvedev - 1 YEC, 1 M (1 YEC-F)
5. Dimitrov - 1 YEC (1 M-F)
6. Tsitsipas - 1 YEC

7. Nadal - 1 M (2 YEC-F)
8. Rune - 1 M (YEC-RR, 1 M-QF)
9. Khachanov - 1 M (1 M-QF)


Clay:

1. Nadal - 14 GS, 26 M
2. Djokovic - 3 GS, 11 M
3. Wawrinka - 1 GS, 1 M

4. Zverev - 4 M (3 GS-SF)
5. Tsitsipas - 3 M (1 GS-F)
6. Murray - 2 M (1 GS-F)
7. Rublev - 2 M (1 M-F)
8. Alcaraz - 2 M (1 GS-SF)
9. Fognini - 1 M (1 M-SF, 1 GS-QF, 2 M-QF, 2 GS-R16)
10. Medvedev - 1 M (1 M-SF, 1 GS-QF, 2 M-QF, 1 GS-R16)


Grass:

1. Djokovic - 7 GS
2. Nadal - 2 GS (3 GS-F)
3. Murray - 2 GS (1 GS-F)
4. Alcaraz - 1 GS
 

Mainad

Bionic Poster
Why are Murray's 2 Olympic titles not included? One of them would put him ahead of Zverev on Indoor Hard.
 
Top