Actor or actress you think deserves more love

Lleytonstation

Talk Tennis Guru
There are some actors and actresses that I sometimes don't understand how they are not casted more? Maybe it is their choice, or maybe they just picked movies that didn't pan out.

Here is a few:
Garret Hedlund: Troy, Pan, Tron
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Emile Hirsch: Alpha Dog, into the wild, Lord's of dogtown
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Domhnall Gleeson: About time, ex machina, star wars, Frank, never let me go
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Olga Kurylenko: quantum of solace, Oblivion
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Now I understand these people are in a lot off movies, but they don't seem to be in the Blockbuster movies or get casted well.

You got any?
 

SystemicAnomaly

Bionic Poster
Never understood why Brie Larson has gotten so much hate from the little boyz. Upset that Captain Marvel is female? Brie deserves more love.

More love for Alyson Hannigan (Buffy & HIMYM), Tatiana Maslany (Orphan Black) and Jane Levy (Suburgatory, Zoey's Extraordinary Playlist).

But, most of all, Britt Robertson (For the People, Girlboss, The Secret Circle) and Erin Karpluk (Being Erica, Riftword Chronicles & A Fixer Upper Mystery series)

Britt Robertson
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Erin Karpkuk
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Lleytonstation

Talk Tennis Guru
Never understood why Brie Larson has gotten so much hate from the little boyz. Upset that Captain Marvel is female? Brie deserves more love.

More love for Alyson Hannigan (Buffy & HIMYM), Tatiana Maslany (Orphan Black) and Jane Levy (Suburgatory, Zoey's Extraordinary Playlist).

But, most of all, Britt Robertson (For the People, Girlboss, The Secret Circle) and Erin Karpluk (Being Erica, Riftword Chronicles & A Fixer Upper Mystery series)

Britt Robertson
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Erin Karpkuk
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I do like Britt.
 

SystemicAnomaly

Bionic Poster
@sureshs
These days the term actress is not politically correct. It is female actor or just actor.
Is it 1984 already? Used to think that PC was a good thing. Now it's downright annoying


Attn PC Police: Is it permissible to say actors of the female persuasion? I have an unsettling feeling that it is not.
 
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SystemicAnomaly

Bionic Poster
Yep. She is a unique type of actress. Saw her in a Dogs Purpose.
Have seen the trailer. Looks watch-worthy. Will have to see if I have access to it. Britt is all kinds of cute. And she has a strong presence in the roles I've seen her play. Saw her first in Life Unexpected (before The Secret Circle). There, she was playing a character that was 5-6 yrs younger than her real age.
 
I wish Spanish actress Pilar López de Ayala had been given more and better choices. Her beauty and soulful eyes only serve as a backdrop to a great talent and charisma on the big screen, but her film career could have been so much better. If you haven't seen her, a good movie to watch is the historical drama on Queen Joana of Castile Mad Love.

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ByeByePoly

G.O.A.T.
Never understood why Brie Larson has gotten so much hate from the little boyz. Upset that Captain Marvel is female? Brie deserves more love.

More love for Alyson Hannigan (Buffy & HIMYM), Tatiana Maslany (Orphan Black) and Jane Levy (Suburgatory, Zoey's Extraordinary Playlist).

But, most of all, Britt Robertson (For the People, Girlboss, The Secret Circle) and Erin Karpluk (Being Erica, Riftword Chronicles & A Fixer Upper Mystery series)

Britt Robertson
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Erin Karpkuk
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Tatiana was outstanding in Orphan Black pulling off all those characters. I recently watched Perry Mason (HBO) and she was good in that also.
 

Mike Bulgakov

G.O.A.T.
Montgomery Clift

Montgomery Clift didn’t depart fast and beautiful like James Dean and Marilyn Monroe, nor did he enjoy the long and varied career of Marlon Brando. Instead, this postwar icon’s career unglamorously petered out, the matinee idol and Method trailblazer losing his looks, suddenly, in a 1956 car accident and his reputation, more slowly, to the drug and alcohol dependence that would leave him uninsurable in the final years of his life. Then, in 1966, Monty Clift died, unremarkably, middle-aged and with a modest 17 films to his name, at the end of what Clift’s Actors Studio teacher Robert Lewis called “the longest suicide in Hollywood history”.

In his brief heyday, however, Clift was one of the most exciting actors working in film. An authority in playing vulnerable young rebel types prior to Dean’s arrival on the scene, he was also a purveyor of the Method before Brando had even made his screen debut. At his peak Clift was considered such a formidable performer that Burt Lancaster shook with nerves at the prospect of sharing a scene with him – and such an uncommon beauty that cinematographers shot him in soft focus just like they would one of his leading ladies. Even post-crash, and all through his decade-long so-called ‘suicide’, Clift continued to deliver performances of fragile power.
https://www.bfi.org.uk/lists/montgomery-clift-10-essential-films

Say, where did I see this guy?
In "Red River"?
Or a "Place In The Sun"?
Maybe "The Misfits"?
Or "From Here To Eternity"?

And everybody say, "Is he all right?"
And everybody say, "What's he like?"
And everybody say, "He sure looks funny"
That's Montgomery Clift, honey

 

Bartelby

Bionic Poster
The 'fast and beautiful' car accident in 1956 led to self-medication for the pain, so in effect the accident destroyed his career.

Montgomery Clift

Montgomery Clift didn’t depart fast and beautiful like James Dean and Marilyn Monroe, nor did he enjoy the long and varied career of Marlon Brando. Instead, this postwar icon’s career unglamorously petered out, the matinee idol and Method trailblazer losing his looks, suddenly, in a 1956 car accident and his reputation, more slowly, to the drug and alcohol dependence that would leave him uninsurable in the final years of his life. Then, in 1966, Monty Clift died, unremarkably, middle-aged and with a modest 17 films to his name, at the end of what Clift’s Actors Studio teacher Robert Lewis called “the longest suicide in Hollywood history”.

In his brief heyday, however, Clift was one of the most exciting actors working in film. An authority in playing vulnerable young rebel types prior to Dean’s arrival on the scene, he was also a purveyor of the Method before Brando had even made his screen debut. At his peak Clift was considered such a formidable performer that Burt Lancaster shook with nerves at the prospect of sharing a scene with him – and such an uncommon beauty that cinematographers shot him in soft focus just like they would one of his leading ladies. Even post-crash, and all through his decade-long so-called ‘suicide’, Clift continued to deliver performances of fragile power.
https://www.bfi.org.uk/lists/montgomery-clift-10-essential-films

Say, where did I see this guy?
In "Red River"?
Or a "Place In The Sun"?
Maybe "The Misfits"?
Or "From Here To Eternity"?

And everybody say, "Is he all right?"
And everybody say, "What's he like?"
And everybody say, "He sure looks funny"
That's Montgomery Clift, honey

 

Dolgopolov85

G.O.A.T.
@Sentinel

PC has run amok. PC is no longer PC

Do you realize that the Academy Awards (Oscars), Golden Globes, Dadasaheb Phalke Awards and pretty much every other cinema award body makes a distinction between Actors & Actresses, Supporting Actors & Actresses, etc.
Not sure why the benefits of positive discrimination are no longer being understood. If you had a single Best Actor award, you couldn't guarantee that a woman would win the award every year. It's much better the way it is. I would if anything argue for separate awards for male and female directors because the films directed by women don't get enough recognition at the Oscars.
 
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SystemicAnomaly

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Not sure why the benefits of positive discrimination are no longer being understood. If you had a single Best Actor award, you couldn't guarantee that a woman would win the award every year. It's much better the way it is. I would if anything argue for separate awards for male and female directors because the films directed by women don't get enough recognition at the Oscars.
Don't think I'd be comfortable with separate categories for male & female directors. The latter category may be perceived by many as being something less. And, really, there is nothing particularly masculine or feminine (for maleness or femalenes) about film directing, in general. Sure, there can be vastly directing styles -- but categorizing directing as male or female, in nature, seems forced / unnatural.

With acting, there is usually something inherently different between male, female (or other) character portrayals. This is not to say that there is not a fair amount of overlap. For instance, some female characters can be quite strong physically (as well as emotionally and mentally). And this all begs the question, are we ready for non-binary acting categories?
 
Who?

Unfamiliar name. Had to look him up. But once I saw who it was, I tend to agree. A very prolific character actor. Quite a few iconic supporting roles. Has he had any major starring roles as well?
Out of important good movies he's almost/basically the co-lead in Hateful Eight.
In TV he was the lead of The Unicorn, co-lead in Vice Principals, Justified and The Shield.
 

Dolgopolov85

G.O.A.T.
Don't think I'd be comfortable with separate categories for male & female directors. The latter category may be perceived by many as being something less. And, really, there is nothing particularly masculine or feminine (for maleness or femalenes) about film directing, in general. Sure, there can be vastly directing styles -- but categorizing directing as male or female, in nature, seems forced / unnatural.

With acting, there is usually something inherently different between male, female (or other) character portrayals. This is not to say that there is not a fair amount of overlap. For instance, some female characters can be quite strong physically (as well as emotionally and mentally). And this all begs the question, are we ready for non-binary acting categories?
I agree in theory except that invariably the nominees for best director are all male (ok not this year). It gets hard to believe they can't find a single woman director worth giving the award. And if that is really the case, if the committee is so deeply convinced about it, then let's have separate awards to recognize female directors too. Again, maybe now that Chloe Zhao has broken new ground, maybe the committee will get more comfortable nominating films directed by women.
 

stringertom

Bionic Poster
I agree in theory except that invariably the nominees for best director are all male (ok not this year). It gets hard to believe they can't find a single woman director worth giving the award. And if that is really the case, if the committee is so deeply convinced about it, then let's have separate awards to recognize female directors too. Again, maybe now that Chloe Zhao has broken new ground, maybe the committee will get more comfortable nominating films directed by women.
Not to devalue Zhao’s accomplishment but it wasn’t “groundbreaking” to receive Best Director for a Best Picture winner when it was done over a decade ago by Kathryn Bigelow for The Hurt Locker.
 

Dolgopolov85

G.O.A.T.
Not to devalue Zhao’s accomplishment but it wasn’t “groundbreaking” to receive Best Director for a Best Picture winner when it was done over a decade ago by Kathryn Bigelow for The Hurt Locker.
Well, she is still only the second female director to receive the award and as you said the last one was a decade ago. So when I say groundbreaking, it's like it's a fresh opportunity to break new ground. I don't know if that will be the case.
 

ChaelAZ

G.O.A.T.
Never understood why Brie Larson has gotten so much hate from the little boyz. Upset that Captain Marvel is female? Brie deserves more love.

Captain Marvel is my favorite of all the Marvel universe movies, and I thought Brie was amazing. The hate though, there are plenty of article written that she is a bit full of herself and not the easiest to work with. I don't know, but that is what has been said often.
 

Harry_Wild

G.O.A.T.
Captain Marvel is my favorite of all the Marvel universe movies, and I thought Brie was amazing. The hate though, there are plenty of article written that she is a bit full of herself and not the easiest to work with. I don't know, but that is what has been said often.
Brin has her own YouTube! Channel if you are interested in knowing her. She launch it in 2020 so she trying to get subscribers! I binge watch her content every 2 months or so! She down to earth kooky personality, extreme feminist and far leftist!
 

-NN-

G.O.A.T.
Yum Jung-Ah and Kim Yeo-jin (actresses) were awesome in Sky Castle and Vincenzo respectively, but don't get nearly the flowers of younger more handsome actors who get fangirled to death such as Kim Soo-hyun or Song Joong-ki, whose English speaking scenes are among the most horrific in all of acting.

There are a lot of great actors and actresses in sageuk and guzhuang who don't get to see much action elsewhere. Jin Yi-han who played Tal Tal in The Empress Ki comes to mind.

Also recently watched Castlevania, which is bloody awesome, and Adetokumboh M'Cormack's voice acting for the character Isaac is way too good. As an actor he isn't mega nor that well renowned, but I'm certainly mad hot on his portrayal of Isaac.
 

SystemicAnomaly

Bionic Poster
Captain Marvel is my favorite of all the Marvel universe movies, and I thought Brie was amazing. The hate though, there are plenty of article written that she is a bit full of herself and not the easiest to work with. I don't know, but that is what has been said often.
I was seeing the hate here on this TT forum and elsewhere long before the movie was released. If you take a gander at the user ratings at IMDb, it was showing that nearly 10% of users had given it the lowest possible score whereas the rest of the distribution looked fairly normal (except at both extremes).
 
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van_Loederen

Professional
There are some actors and actresses that I sometimes don't understand how they are not casted more? Maybe it is their choice, or maybe they just picked movies that didn't pan out.

Here is a few:
Garret Hedlund: Troy, Pan, Tron
Garrett_Hedlund_by_Gage_Skidmore_2.jpg


Emile Hirsch: Alpha Dog, into the wild, Lord's of dogtown
story_half_width.jpg


Domhnall Gleeson: About time, ex machina, star wars, Frank, never let me go
579579_v9_bc.jpg


Olga Kurylenko: quantum of solace, Oblivion
olga-kurylenko-3113-11-09-2017-02-25-21.jpg


Now I understand these people are in a lot off movies, but they don't seem to be in the Blockbuster movies or get casted well.

You got any?
i could agree on Olga.
with the others it should be obvious why it's so hard for people to feel much/more
 

SystemicAnomaly

Bionic Poster
Captain Marvel is my favorite of all the Marvel universe movies, and I thought Brie was amazing. The hate though, there are plenty of article written that she is a bit full of herself and not the easiest to work with. I don't know, but that is what has been said often.
Just took another look at the IMDb user rating breakdown. It is not quite as bad as I had remembered it. It has settled down somewhat from what it was over a year ago.

However it still does show an unnatural polarization -- an unnatural distribution at the extremes (ratings of 1 & 10). A bit over 6% of all users give it the lowest score of 1. Nearly the same as the combined total for scores of 2, 3 & 4.

If you throw out the extremes -- the top 25k scores & the bottom 25k score -- you will get a much more natural distribution of ratings.

The lowest scores came from males under 30, particularly those under 18. The highest scores came from all females 18 and older.
 
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Lleytonstation

Talk Tennis Guru
Just took another look at the IMDb user rating breakdown. It is not quite as bad as I had remembered it. It has settled down somewhat from what it was over a year ago.

However it still does show an unnatural polarization -- an unnatural distribution at the extremes (ratings of 1 & 10). A bit over 6% of all users give it the lowest score of 1. Nearly the same as the combined total for scores of 2, 3 & 4.

If you throw out the extremes -- the top 25k scores & the bottom 25k score -- you will get a much more natural distribution of ratings.

The lowest scores came from males under 30, particularly those under 18. The highest scores came from all females 18 and older.
Gal Gadot better though.
 
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