Nostradamus
Bionic Poster
Which shoe is better ?? Cybersonic or babolat propulse fury 3 ?
Adidas Cybersonic
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Shankmeister-Chubs
Rookie
My guess is that it's because all of the lace loops on both the lateral and medial sides are stretchy bungies. That doesn't help with lateral containment or stability. At least the lateral side of the barricades has you lace directly into the upper, and so do both sides of the Uber 4s.
The Big Kahuna
Hall of Fame
He told me. I asked his opinion of the shoe and he mentioned he was unable to playlets as a result. He also mentioned he was having the same issue I was with the laces / outer rubbing on the medial side of his ankle.
The Big Kahuna
Hall of Fame
Ordering the Babolat Propulse Fury 3 now. I have heard very good things so far - including a great review on Tennisnerd.
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Nostradamus
Bionic Poster
so you are saying, Lateral stability is Poor ? That is really bad if true. I ordered a pair of this Expensive shoes,,, now i am not sure if i should return them ??
Kal-El 34
Hall of Fame
I wear a size 14 and move like a baby giraffe and have had zero issue with lateral stability
could not stand vapor pro felt like skates
Nostradamus
Bionic Poster
LOL,, ok , i will definitely keep the TW order and try it out for at least 2 weeks and review it. but of course, after 2 weeks, if i hate it i won't be able to return it,,, but you say its good shoes with good stability so i take your word for it for now.
and Baby Giraffe ??????? moving like one,,, Is that good ??
Nostradamus
Bionic Poster
Kal-El 34
Hall of Fame
LOL,, ok , i will definitely keep the TW order and try it out for at least 2 weeks and review it. but of course, after 2 weeks, if i hate it i won't be able to return it,,, but you say its good shoes with good stability so i take your word for it for now.
and Baby Giraffe ??????? moving like one,,, Is that good ??
Lol I’m 6’6” with a 14 shoe so the struggle to find a lightweight shoe with stability has been rough haha. I feel I plant harder than most especially side to side . Thinking I’ve found one that works for me here just hope they hold up !
Kal-El 34
Hall of Fame
where did you find this pic of me ?
Rozroz
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d-quik
Hall of Fame
But how? @StefanosWillSaveTheWorld Do you have a scale in your store? Can you do a weighing for us?
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Kal-El 34
Hall of Fame
this guy shows a size 11 weighs 13 ounces (at 4 minutes in the video) but tennis warehouse says 14 ounces for a size 10.5
But how? @StefanosWillSaveTheWorld Do you have a scale in your store? Can you do a weighing for us?
16.3 oz for my size 14
The Big Kahuna
Hall of Fame
The market for this shoe is so small that it will soon be on sale - like the Staycon was for Adidas. If you view the review posted by Foot Doctor Zach, he does a good job of explaining why. This shoe was made for a very specific type of player that favor quickness over all else. If you are thinking about buying a pair, you might want to wait 3-4 months and save a ton of money.
Nostradamus
Bionic Poster
I just got my pair and have been walking around the house for 15 minutes. It is very tight on the sides, very very snug. i don't think i can play any matches for any duration of time with shoes this tight. Of course, Length is ok because it got my size. but sides of the shoes tight. Not sure if i got 1/2 size bigger, it would be any better ?? i doubt it. as far as support and pushoff, no problem there, very performance oriented shoes but just too tight.
i may have to return this shoes.
Kal-El 34
Hall of Fame
yea def on the narrow side of shoes. I did mention I had been playing in sprint pro 3.5 which a lot of people find too narrow as well. I think the cybersonic isn’t as narrow as those and comparable width wise to vapors but prob fits certain foot shapes better than others
Watched the review, pretty aligned with how I feel about them. They just feel so fast and completely one with my foot. I'm pretty light on my feet, don't really feel like a lot of cushioning is my highest need, so these are perfect for me. Durability is still teh question but that video seems to suggest they will be pretty great for a speed shoe.
Fit is always a pretty personal think. I don't have wide feet so they work well for me. I would guess someone with a wide foot would struggle with these, they're maybe similar to the vapors?
EDIT: I'll also add I did feel some pressure from the collar on the lateral side when I put them on, worried me a bit but haven't ever noticed it while playing
Fit is always a pretty personal think. I don't have wide feet so they work well for me. I would guess someone with a wide foot would struggle with these, they're maybe similar to the vapors?
EDIT: I'll also add I did feel some pressure from the collar on the lateral side when I put them on, worried me a bit but haven't ever noticed it while playing
Nostradamus
Bionic Poster
one thing i don't understand is why the cushioning is so poor. this is basically double Lightstrike cushion that Uber 4 has. and Uber 4 lightstrike cushion is pretty plush and decent especially when its new
The Big Kahuna
Hall of Fame
IMO you will know within two hours of play.LOL,, ok , i will definitely keep the TW order and try it out for at least 2 weeks and review it. but of course, after 2 weeks, if i hate it i won't be able to return it,,, but you say its good shoes with good stability so i take your word for it for now.
and Baby Giraffe ??????? moving like one,,, Is that good ??
The Big Kahuna
Hall of Fame
I suspect the cushioning is affected by the graphite infused rods running though the midsole.
Nostradamus
Bionic Poster
yea i just wore it around the house for 15 minutes,, i had to take it off because sides of my foot hurt so bad. Returning it tomorrow.
Shankmeister-Chubs
Rookie
It really doesn't look like the "rods" are graphite at all. TPU plastic it seems. to me.
The Big Kahuna
Hall of Fame
This is according to adidas. They don’t look like graphite to me either. They look to be plastic.
Shankmeister-Chubs
Rookie
Just played a singles match with my second pair of Cybersonics. I felt like the shoe offered great traction and provided a snug 1:1 fit that disappeared as soon as I started running. I felt supported enough to change directions moderately hard, which is saying something for an overweight middle aged guy with tiny feet and foot/ankle/knee problems!! The shoe also felt light. It was a losing effort on my part, but the shoe was not to blame.
BUT, is it worth 180 dollars in the marketplace? I'd say no. The Uber 4 is probably about as stable laterally (as long as you stay away from the versions with the knit upper), and the Barricade is stable and provides just as much midfoot support and propulsion, but it has a wide fit which may impact your stability if your feet aren't wide enough. These shoes offer descent stability in a lightweight package, but I'd say that all three of these Adidas shoes sacrifice a bit of lateral stability to offer a light, fast feeling shoe with decent cushioning.
BUT, is it worth 180 dollars in the marketplace? I'd say no. The Uber 4 is probably about as stable laterally (as long as you stay away from the versions with the knit upper), and the Barricade is stable and provides just as much midfoot support and propulsion, but it has a wide fit which may impact your stability if your feet aren't wide enough. These shoes offer descent stability in a lightweight package, but I'd say that all three of these Adidas shoes sacrifice a bit of lateral stability to offer a light, fast feeling shoe with decent cushioning.
The Big Kahuna
Hall of Fame
Would you get even more stability and better cushioning from a pair of Ballot Jet Mach 3s on sale now for $80.? I would tend to think you would.
Shankmeister-Chubs
Rookie
I've never tried the Jets, but I wear stycons a bunch. Hard to imagine anything beating them for stability.
The Big Kahuna
Hall of Fame
It is still curious that none of the Adidas tennis pros are wearing the Cybersonic shoe that I am aware of. It was supposed to be for Zverev, but he tried them and has stuck with the Ubersonic 4. Doesn't that say something about this shoe?
Nostradamus
Bionic Poster
Sasha Zeverz dropped this shoe really fast.. tried it for like 1 match and dumped it and went back to Uber4
Purestriker
Legend
Faster than Meddy dropped him in the MC post match press conference.
john cheng
Rookie
The Cybersonics did go on sale for a bit here at TW. People perhaps grabbed a few pairs. Agree about the limited supply, maybe manufacturing cost contributed to this? Not sure.
The fit is definitely for medium/narrower foot type. It's snug in there, but extremely supportive and stable for me. The inside of this shoe also felt smooth and very well crafted. Though folks wider foot types might benefit from other nice brands like Diadora, Lotto and even Babolat like some posters reported here.
Also, there were some negative reviews reported like eyelets popping or breaking, being too narrow or not supportive at all. Never had this issue yet. But I think for the cost ($180), players want/demand a perfect shoe for their foot which is reasonable but not possible at all due to each unique foot type.
what_army
Professional
Anything with a rubber sole is good for serve and volley.
d-quik
Hall of Fame
@StefanosWillSaveTheWorld Do you have a scale in your store? Can you do a weighing for us?
Vicious49
Legend
I have them in Size 10s and could weigh them but TW has already done that for us. In their review:
"The Cybersonics weigh in at 14.1 ounces (size 10.5), making them about the same weight as a Barricade."
d-quik
Hall of Fame
You don't think I am aware of that already? I have found the weights listed to be incorrect on at least 3 occasions
Vicious49
Legend
How would I know what you are or are not aware of?
I would have measured them for you but youre probably already aware of the their true weight By now.
d-quik
Hall of Fame
man... you sure make lots of assumptions
Vicious49
Legend
The Cybersonics are possibly my favorite new shoe. Even maybe replacing the Gel Res 8 at the top for me. They seem to breathe better and it's a perfect fit for my forefoot where it doesn't move around at all inside the shoe but at the same time it doesn't pinch my toes. I picked them up on sale for $107 but they were an even better buy for anyone who grabbed them this past weekend from TW for $93. My buddy grabbed a pair directly from Adidas in a color way I hadn't seen before. I don't mind the current blue/orange one but I think this new red/grey one looks much better.
mpournaras
Hall of Fame
marslondon
New User
It’s taken a while but finally got my hands on a pair (now the pricing on older models is realistic) and I have to say out of the box these are the most comfortable shoe I’ve bought. I’m a long time Ubersonic 2/4 wearer and was hoping these might work and I’m not disappointed. The fit feels much like a combination of the Ubersonic and Barricade in that the tongue is similar to the Barricade but in a slimmer shoe. Sizing is the same to me, I’m an 8uk and always buy an 8.5 in Adidas. I’ve recently switched to Diadora B.Icon and while I love those too, I think the Cybersonic might just be my favourite. I didn’t love the Uber 4.1 update for some reason, felt looser in fit for me (maybe why Zverev is sticking with 4.0’s that Adidas seem to be providing in a custom paint job!). So far I’m a big fan, let’s see how they last (which was my only real issue with the Uber 4’s).
P.S. my only gripe with the Cyber is that laces do cut in a bit across the foot, nothing major though.
P.S. my only gripe with the Cyber is that laces do cut in a bit across the foot, nothing major though.
ouch_my_shoulder
New User
I have a pair of these arriving today, seems like they'll work well for my narrow foot. The design ticks all the right boxes for me, except for the goofy external shank wrapping around the heel. But we'll see.
ouch_my_shoulder
New User
Got my Cybersonics and played a match in them yesterday. I would say they run very slightly small to size, I am normally a 10.5 in Nike/Asics and also went with 10.5 in these. I would say fit is something like 1/4 size smaller than my old Speed FF2's. They are fairly snug with my regular Thorlo max cushion socks, but I think sizing up to 11 would be too loose. They are definitely built for narrow feet, which is good for me. I tried swapping the insoles for Move Game Day Pros and the fit got too tight with the Thorlos, but would be OK if I went to thinner socks. That's a no for me, since I usually struggle with blisters on balls of feet and big toes. Better to be really snug and avoid sliding around.
Feel underfoot is fantastic IMO, they are relatively firm and very low to the ground. I found the lateral stability to be totally fine for this style of shoe; they are more like a lightweight/fast shoe and not really built for max stability. The grip/tread is phenomenal and I never slipped at all.
Biggest negative has been mentioned a few times - the laces dig into the tops of your feet more than I've ever experienced in a tennis shoe. I normally use both of the top eyelets and sometimes do a runner's loop, to really get my heel locked down. No way was that possible in these shoes- the tops row of laces just totally cuts into your foot when you flex forward. Fortunately, the heel lockdown seemed fine using only one of the top eyelets. I didn't really notice the lace pressure much while I was playing, but once I started driving home (probably feet starting to swell a bit), they started to feel really uncomfortable. Actually had to undo the laces at a stoplight. They make comfort pads for "lace bite," I might consider adding one of these to the tongue to beef it up a bit.
Overall I really enjoyed the feel of the shoe while playing, just not so much afterwards. The weight/speed and grip are fantastic, breathability is good. The external shank on the back is not as obnoxious in person as it appears in photos. Overall I think a solid purchase if I can make some minor adjustments. I got the usual "new shoe" hotspots on the balls of my feet and big toes, but this is normal for me anytime I use new shoes. Eventually I'll probably still swap the insoles for something a little higher-end, even if it's just the Dr. Scholl's sport insoles. The stock ones are not the worst I've seen, but nearly any aftermarket insole will still be an upgrade.
mpournaras
Hall of Fame
Pretty fresh looking:
mpournaras
Hall of Fame
Reminds me of these:
