I like his reviews but I have a 2E foot and find the shoes he feels are wide are not truly wide.
I didn’t find the U3s wide either.
Adidas Ubersonic 4 Thread
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I didn’t find the U3s wide either.
Tennis_Hands
Banned
IMO, Ü3s are not wide, they have a wide forefoot, and medium shank and heel. For people that need a shoe that accommodates a true wide foot, they have to look elsewhere.
It is confusing that the info coming from TW is that the Ü4s are the same fit as Ü2s, and the review claims that they fit like Ü3s. Right now I choose to believe TW, but we will see what happens when they are available in the physical stores.
mpournaras
Hall of Fame
This guy already cut his in half to see whats inside. LOVE his videos
longtimelurker
Professional
He is usually accurate and precise in his reviews, let's see how they fit
the_faceless_player
Hall of Fame
I'll lace up my Uber 2s and 4s side by side this afternoon when the 4s show up. No 3s to compare bc I hated them and sold them 
the_faceless_player
Hall of Fame
Will update later today after work when I can wear them side by side with my pair of 2s but I put the 4 on for a quick minute and they are way more like the 2 than the Uber 3 IMO. There's definitely differences but the overall fit and shape instantly reminded me of the 2.
the_faceless_player
Hall of Fame
Ok I laced up my 4 side by side with an old pair of Uber 2 I still have. IMO they are much more similar than the are different. I would peg the 4 as significantly closer to the 2 than the Uber 3. Some general thoughts:
- Shoe feels a tiny bit wider in the forefoot than the 2 but definitely not the wider feeling forefoot of the 3
- Heel & Achilles area is more padded and snug feeling than the 2
- Agree with the video that there is a noticeable flex point at the bottom of the lace box that needs to break in
- The lacing system of the 4 is way better than the 2. The 2 drove me crazy bc the lace holes were punched in the upper itself and mine always folded & bunched if I tightened the laces too tight. The 4 have a very Vapor-esque finger system that allows them to really be cinched down securely.
- Shoe feels bouncier and better cushioned than the 2 but the forefoot does still feel a bit thin. Especially true compared to something like my GP Turbo. This shouldn't be a surprise given that it's typically the tradeoff for lighter weight and speed.
- Arch support feels more natural and comfortable than the kind of blocky middle chunk of the 2.
Are the 2s that you are using for comparison new or well worn/broken in?
the_faceless_player
Hall of Fame
Moderately worn. Not new but not worn into the ground either.
Please keep us updated on how the fit of the 4 feels compared with the 2, after the 4s are broken in well.
My problem with narrow forefoot shoes is that they rub against the side of my little toe causing pain and blisters. But if the shoe has a lot of forgiveness / flexibility in that area, then it’s not so bad. I wore Vapors for a long time even though they were too narrow in the forefoot but when the Vapor X came out I decided that I had had enough of the discomfort and switched to the Uber 3, which was infinitely more comfortable just because of the wider forefoot. But the wider forefoot of the Uber 3 is really the only thing I like about that shoe. Everything else about it is not great.
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Nostradamus
Bionic Poster
That cushion after he cut it had some Air bubble like spaces,,,, is that normal ?? is that defect in cushioning ? Not sure if that is normal with Lightstrike cushioning ?
Nostradamus
Bionic Poster
GREAT review. But LOL,, of course Uber4 isn't as good of cushioning as GP Turbo. NO shoes compare in thickness of cushioning to GP Turbo. GP turbo has like Triple air max cushioning there, it's like walking on 2 padded pillows.
Charlie Mewborne
New User
Just got mine in right before the weekend and I’m super bummed. I swear by the Solecourt Boosts and have had about 8 pair in different colors and I wear a 10 in those because they run really big (1 pair of socks). I used to wear the Ubersonic 2’s a few years back and wore 10 1/2 (2 pair of socks) in those. In the 3’s I wore 10 1/2 with one pair of socks. I tried on the 4’s just right now and they run SO SMALL, I’m easily an 11 with one pair of socks, maybe even 11 1/2 if I wanted to wear two pair of socks. Can’t comment on comfort or anything else because the shoe was so small. I’m 5’11” about 180 if that helps anyone. I don’t wear wide shoes ever either but my feet are a little flat. Super disappointed! Really frustrating that Adidas sizes run so much different from shoe to shoe. Been wearing strictly Adidas for the last 6 years. Just wanted to help anyone with the sizing when ordering. These shoes felt pretty narrow as well for my type of foot.
the_faceless_player
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I really enjoyed my first hit with them last night. Wore 2 socks in my normal size 10 with no issues. Really impressed with their on court performance and feel. Will play again this weekend in them but so far so good!
megamind
Legend
have you used gel resolutions before, if so, mind comparing them? (just asking because thats what i have at the moment)
Nostradamus
Bionic Poster
the_faceless_player
Hall of Fame
I haven’t. Haven’t had an Asics shoe fit in a way my feet like other than the original Court FF. Just based on what I know, the Uber 4 should be lighter and faster but less cushioned than a Gel Res, especially in the forefoot. I don’t care for the amount of rubber ASICS uses on their upper and every one I try one feels crazy stiff and over built. I love the way the Uber 4’s upper is soft but still very stable feeling right away. That flex point at the bottom of the laces box I mentioned earlier in the thread also broke in quickly and was a non issue during play.
Nostradamus
Bionic Poster
What do you mean by on court Performance ? did it give you better energy return from the cushion than something like Gel res 8 or Vapor 10 ?
Played in the 4s today. Longtime user of the 2s. Have played in the 3s.
Very close in feel to the 2s, but the 4s felt a bit wider. But not as wide as the 3s.
biggest difference compared to the 2s is that the 4s flex much easier across the forefoot.
another difference: outsole of the 4s seemed to be a bit stickier (more grip) than the 2s. Not too sticky, but noticeably stickier.
Very close in feel to the 2s, but the 4s felt a bit wider. But not as wide as the 3s.
biggest difference compared to the 2s is that the 4s flex much easier across the forefoot.
another difference: outsole of the 4s seemed to be a bit stickier (more grip) than the 2s. Not too sticky, but noticeably stickier.
Can you comment specifically on forefoot width compared with 2 and 3?
Felt a bit wider than the 2s and a bit more narrow than the 3s
Nostradamus
Bionic Poster
Wow, comfortable out of the box. Just walked around my house for 2 minutes. Cushioning was bit disappointing .. But i have been Spoiled with Nike GT turbo cushioning....LOL
StefanosWillSaveTheWorld
Rookie
The GT turbo is definitely the best shoe for Household chores... Wish they played good on Clay.
Nostradamus
Bionic Poster
yes i agree, Tiafoe completely sucked on clay tournaments with that shoe on.
gutfeeling
Hall of Fame
Can anyone compare the Ubersonic v4 to the Lav v1 or v2? Thanks.
Nostradamus
Bionic Poster
new Video with some great comments.
I finally got mine in the mail today and when I tried them on they fit more like the 2's then the 3's. Same length as the 2 but maybe slightly wider but not as wide as the 3. The cushioning feels stacked in the heel with minimal in the forefoot. To me it feels like they took the cushioning from the 3's and put them into the 2 basically. I was hoping the Lightstrike would be similar to Fresh Foam or Flytefoam but it doesn't feel as soft or springy. I will playlest them tomorrow and post my review.
I just received the Ubersonic 4 in size 10 and 11.
I wear the Ubersonic 3 in size 10.5 with two pairs of socks and that is a perfect fit for me straight out of the box. I have never worn the Uber 2.
The Uber 4 in size 10 was definitely too small.
So I compared the Uber 4 in size 11 with a brand new pair of Uber 3 in my usual 10.5. Just walking around the house.
The first thing I noticed was the flex point at the bottom of the lace box. I agree with the_faceless_player above, and the video. It is uncomfortable and digs into my toes, especially around my big toe. In the video he says that the problem goes away once the shoe is broken in, but I found it very annoying out of the box. The Ubersonic 3 does not have this problem. I believe the issue is mostly due to the upper weave being stiffer in the Ubersonic 4 compared with the 3, so it digs into the foot more. But I think there is also a design fault that contributes to the problem. Specifically, the V dip in the rubber toe guard next to the big toe, which determines the flex point, is too far from the front of the shoe. This results in the flex point of the shoe being essentially a straight line perpendicular to the length of the foot. So the flex point of the shoe does not follow the natural line of the foot’s flex point, which more diagonal across the foot. In my case this means that it digs into my foot at the base of my big toe. The Ubersonic 3 does not have this problem because the rubber guard next to the big toe is correctly positioned to create a diagonal flex point, which follows the natural line of the the foot’s flex point.
As for forefoot width, the size 11 was OK, but I wouldn’t want it to be any more narrow.
Overall, the Uber 4 felt stiffer out of the box compared to the Uber 3. My feeling is that the Uber 4 definitely needs to be broken in to be comfortable. Whereas the Uber 3 requires no break in and feels comfortable straight out of the box.
The Uber 4 felt lighter and hugs my foot better. With the Uber 3 it feels like my foot moves first and then the shoe follows (especially the heel). The Uber 4 is not like this. I think the Uber 4 would definitely be faster on court. This is not surprising to me as I do not think that the Uber 3 feels like a speed shoe at all.
At this point I’m not sure whether I will hold onto the 11s or instead try the Uber 4 in 10.5. But I pretty sure that the Uber 4 in 10.5 would be too small if I wear my usual two pairs of socks, so I’d probably have to wear just one pair, or two thin pairs.
I wear the Ubersonic 3 in size 10.5 with two pairs of socks and that is a perfect fit for me straight out of the box. I have never worn the Uber 2.
The Uber 4 in size 10 was definitely too small.
So I compared the Uber 4 in size 11 with a brand new pair of Uber 3 in my usual 10.5. Just walking around the house.
The first thing I noticed was the flex point at the bottom of the lace box. I agree with the_faceless_player above, and the video. It is uncomfortable and digs into my toes, especially around my big toe. In the video he says that the problem goes away once the shoe is broken in, but I found it very annoying out of the box. The Ubersonic 3 does not have this problem. I believe the issue is mostly due to the upper weave being stiffer in the Ubersonic 4 compared with the 3, so it digs into the foot more. But I think there is also a design fault that contributes to the problem. Specifically, the V dip in the rubber toe guard next to the big toe, which determines the flex point, is too far from the front of the shoe. This results in the flex point of the shoe being essentially a straight line perpendicular to the length of the foot. So the flex point of the shoe does not follow the natural line of the foot’s flex point, which more diagonal across the foot. In my case this means that it digs into my foot at the base of my big toe. The Ubersonic 3 does not have this problem because the rubber guard next to the big toe is correctly positioned to create a diagonal flex point, which follows the natural line of the the foot’s flex point.
As for forefoot width, the size 11 was OK, but I wouldn’t want it to be any more narrow.
Overall, the Uber 4 felt stiffer out of the box compared to the Uber 3. My feeling is that the Uber 4 definitely needs to be broken in to be comfortable. Whereas the Uber 3 requires no break in and feels comfortable straight out of the box.
The Uber 4 felt lighter and hugs my foot better. With the Uber 3 it feels like my foot moves first and then the shoe follows (especially the heel). The Uber 4 is not like this. I think the Uber 4 would definitely be faster on court. This is not surprising to me as I do not think that the Uber 3 feels like a speed shoe at all.
At this point I’m not sure whether I will hold onto the 11s or instead try the Uber 4 in 10.5. But I pretty sure that the Uber 4 in 10.5 would be too small if I wear my usual two pairs of socks, so I’d probably have to wear just one pair, or two thin pairs.
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Ok just got done playing with the 4's and I didn't like the fit. It felt wider in the mid foot and heel compared to both the 2 and 3. The forefoot was a bit wider than the 2 but narrower than the 3. It is also more fuller height wise in the toe area so felt more roomy. The looser feeling heel and mid foot made for a sloppier feel to me and I didn't feel as locked in. I'm assuming Adidas designed the fit to the pro it was designed for, probably Zverev's feet. Lightstrike feels very similar to the PU midsole of the 3's, maybe a tad softer but doesn't feel as nice as the Flytefoam or Fresh Foam. The outsole is nice and grippy and seems like it'll be durable.
Nostradamus
Bionic Poster
I don't get it. Chris at Tennis warehouse loved the fit. he said it fit him perfectly and he has narrow feet. so not sure what's going with your feet ?
I don't trust their reviews 100%, they're probably biased to say positive things for the companies. I have a narrow heel and slightly wider forefoot and the 2's and 3's fit fine. The 4's definitely feel wider in the heel and mid foot to me. Let's hear some other peoples' experience. And you should try some on or buy to see what you think. The 4's are still nice comfy and lightweight shoes and I can play competitive matches with them no problem.
Got mine today. Cushioning is definitely softer feeling walking around the home, but I'd guess when moving on court that will feel stiffer. There's a lot more flex than the shoes I've been playing in recently, so that could contribute to the soft feeling too. Fit is slightly generous for my true size but that happens with most shoes for me, as I have a slightly narrow and lower volume foot.
Nostradamus
Bionic Poster
My fit with uber2 was good, no heel slippage but shoe got really HOT in the summer time. and that made the shoe uncomfortable, also Uber2 upper was not soft and it felt uncomfortable there too. but the fit was fine, i have medium wide heel and wide forefoot like a Duck foot.
I have the Uber 4 and been wearing it in the house, not played tennis yet due to this stupid virus. but just walking in it feel like i have heel slippage, but then that doesn't say much. I need to know Heel and shoe will be locked in when i start to make crazy acrobatic moves like Stepanoe Tsitsipas at Net. I also need to know this Uber4 will stay relatively cool in 90+ heat in the summer. No way tell now that its winter. but will see what happens in summer time.
Just fyi, don't wear the Nike GT turbo for 8 hours then go wear test the Uber 4. Uber4 will feel like it has poor cushioning after GT turbo. LOL. GT Turbo truly has some Insane amount of cushioning.
Ok second day of wearing the 4's on the court for some match play and the midsole seems to have softened up a bit. They're better cushioned than 2 or 3. The fit is definitely wider in the mid foot and heel area and overall more fuller feeling. I felt the 2's had the best fit although they were a bit tight feeling at first but they felt perfect during a match and gave me a secure locked down feeling. All three versions had good ventilation in my opinion.
Nostradamus
Bionic Poster
Upper of the Uber 2 had this harsh abrasive feeling. really Crap like feel. It did not have soft leather feel of most Nike shoes. They really need to improve that. i hope they did with Uber 4
Return_Ace
Hall of Fame
Don't you have a pair? Can't you comment?
Either the new colour scheme is super popular, or they had incredibly limited stock of the shoes. Adidas website is basically sold out of all sizes aside from 9, 11 and 11.5.
Hope they will restock.
Nostradamus
Bionic Poster
Yes i do, but haven't had the chance to play tennis in it yet due to this Crazy pandemic
Nostradamus
Bionic Poster
How are you guys liking this shoes ? Better than Gel res 8 or Djokovic FF2 ?? 
severson
New User
Some commented that the shoe, ubersonic 4, tended to create a somewhat unpleasant fold/bend/crease in the forfoot section, becoming a source of discomfort.
Have you a comment on this as many of you surely has had a chance to break them in?
Is this a problem something that lingers or does it go away as the shoe warms by your foot, shapes after your foot/breaks in?
Also, what would you say, as it may have been broken in by now, in terms of fit in relation to size?
As a personal reference - I currently use solecourt boost in size 47 1/3 and if anything, they feel to be on the larger end of the spectrum compared to what may be the optimum/custom type fit.
Based on this, what size do you suggest I choose if deciding to give these u4's a go?
Have you a comment on this as many of you surely has had a chance to break them in?
Is this a problem something that lingers or does it go away as the shoe warms by your foot, shapes after your foot/breaks in?
Also, what would you say, as it may have been broken in by now, in terms of fit in relation to size?
As a personal reference - I currently use solecourt boost in size 47 1/3 and if anything, they feel to be on the larger end of the spectrum compared to what may be the optimum/custom type fit.
Based on this, what size do you suggest I choose if deciding to give these u4's a go?
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Asics FF2 the cushioning is way better and the fit was better especially in the heel and mid foot because the 4's with the new lacing system, I can't make the mid foot feel tighter and it feels a bit loose. The bend crease in the forefoot wasn't an issue for me. The big issue I had with the FF2 was the soles were too slick and I couldn't get a good grip. U4 soles are way stickier and safer for me to play in.
Nostradamus
Bionic Poster
what about cushioning giving you the energy return ? which one gave you better energy return with each step ? Uber4 or FF2
FF2 has springier cushioning (more energy return) throughout the shoe from heel to toe. The U4 had thicker denser cushioning in the heel but very minimal in the forefoot.
Nostradamus
Bionic Poster
Yea but Uber4 is much lighter performance shoes so they can't put thick cushioning from heel to toe. They have to sacrifice something somewhere. but as far as from Uber line of shoes, this Uber4 has the Best cushioning of them all.
Also from this shoe doctor review, he has Higher Jump on the serve score with Uber 4 than FF2 which means there was greater energy return from Uber4.
Nostradamus
Bionic Poster
why are you laughing ?? it's one of the few ways that you can measure the energy return and how well the cushioning responds to push off the court surface
Volleyball
New User
Gotta agree with you... that’s a pretty silly test that shows nothing
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Nostradamus
Bionic Poster
Well he's a doctor and very smart one at that. He knows far more about tennis shoes than everyone in the forum combined
Subway Tennis
G.O.A.T.
The energy return in the Uber 4's is superb. The lightstrike cushioning system, and the innovative midfoot shank design works very well.
I still prefer the GP Turbos and also love wearing the Babolat SFX3's, so I don't think I'll get any more of these, but Adidas is onto a winner for sure.
I know you tried the Ubersonic 3's. They were already a good shoe, but it's pretty hard to get away with an expensive flagship tennis shoe that just had a standard EVA cushioning system. Adidas was flogging off stone-age tech in an expensive top of the line tennis shoe. That is one reason why the Ubersonic 3 sorely needed an upgrade. With these new Uber 4's they updated the cushioning system. Also, the lacing system in the Uber 4 is substantially better than what the Ubersonic 3 had.
Big return to form for Adidas, and they desperately needed it.
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