Advantec Strips and Grip

Tennis sprew

Hall of Fame
Me personally it doesn’t matter, I change mine every 2-3 weeks at least and I just buy a 30 pack of the Babolat Pro Tour overgrips or whatever and stick with it. Don’t go all out over em, never even heard of this brand.
 

esm

Professional
Lol. Just checked their “Testimonial” page - it was difficult to see if any of the pictured players/customers actually uses the VT products in their frames.... :-D
 

djNEiGht

Hall of Fame
Their posts keep popping up in my IG feeds. Finally subscribed /followed.

The price seems a bit outrageous. It’s like how cruise ships sell photos.

Has anyone burned some cash yet for their products?
 

McGradey

Rookie
Tennisnerd had a post on IG about their products and the comments section read like a flood of paid testimonials from people who may not even be users. That alone makes me very suspicious towards the company.
 

Tennis sprew

Hall of Fame
Tennisnerd had a post on IG about their products and the comments section read like a flood of paid testimonials from people who may not even be users. That alone makes me very suspicious towards the company.
Yeah, don’t tell the TW staff but I think they are biased in their reviews. I kinda feel they overhype racquets or shoes or brands in general because they are given money, like Nike or Wilson. That’s why I prefer Tennisnerd mainly because the review is humble, no flashy colors or funky music and straight to the point.
 

Thiem's 1HB

Rookie
Looks like a ridiculous product with even more ridiculous claims. Absurd prices.

Website is amateurish too. For example,

"Perishable goods such as food, flowers, newspapers or magazines cannot be returned. We also do not accept products that are intimate or sanitary goods, hazardous materials, or flammable liquids or gases."




What a bunch of idiots.

All in all, I have zero respect for the company. Even if they gave their products to me for free, I wouldn't use them.
 
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cd3768

Rookie
Checked out the website. I think their prices changed.

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Bodhi312

New User
I do use VT Advantec products (both grips and strips in various racquets/setups). I know most of the people featured on the company’s website and on its instagram profile. The racquets they’re holding are their normal racquets, and they have strips, grips, or both. They’re all 4.5+ pros and/or players.

Regarding the nature of the grip, it is indeed a replacement grip rather than an over grip.

Below is my personal experience with VT Advantec.

From my experience, the reduced vibration doesn’t feel like muted contact; when I hit a ball more flatly than intended or with too much topspin (too much y axis, not enough x axis), I know it immediately from normal (positive) frame feedback.

The impetus for my use of the products came
as a result of a nasty case of tennis elbow. I was at the point where frame vibration was problematic and painful.

One of the pros at my club was using the same racquet as I was, and knowing I was going to keeping showing up to play (beyond reason), he told me to use his racquet if I insisted on continuing to do so. The pro’s racquet had the strips but was otherwise the same, and after a few hours, my arm was in significantly less pain than normal. So no, the strips (nor the grips) aren’t a miracle cure for technical issues, forearm overuse, or my own idiocy, but the lack of negative vibration was noticeable due to the sensitivity of my forearm/wrist/hand.

I played a few more days with the pro’s racquet, and decided to get the strips (the grips weren’t yet available). After adding the strips to my frames, the amount of feedback was noticeably lower (immediately). Prior to the strips, I’d toyed with using lead to stabilize my frames, but found the strips were a better fit for me.

Regarding the grips, before I started using the grips (which are now on 7 racquets), I tried (in various combinations) adding lead to my handle, using a big brand leather grip, and using the VT Advantec grip. I found the VT Advantec grip alone to be preferable to anything else for me.

As a matter of disclosure, I do know the company’s CEO, though I started to get to know him a few months after I’d started using the products. I should further note that nobody from the company has ever asked or pushed me to purchase or use any of their products. If anything, the CEO is one of the least pushy salesman I’ve ever met. The CEO is now one of my coaches (through happenstance — I joined a USTA team he coaches), and in a few cases, he given me advice regarding the products against his own financial interest (in a few cases, he told me to leave the strips off due to the string setup and the frame I was using until I had a reason to add the strips). Less scrupulous CEOs in his position would probably advise me to cover all my frames in strips and wrap my forearm in grips. That’s not his style.

Almost as a rule, I consider any “revolutionary” technology/quick fix products to be utter nonsense until proven otherwise (either by hard science or at least by personal experience). There are a lot of people in the tennis world selling products that fall horribly short (I still can’t hit my forehand like Roger Federer or serve like Pete Sampras, despite the YouTube advertisements).

I’ve found VT Advantec products to deliver on they’re advertised to offer, which is the same theme of what many racquet manufacturers are trying to offer (ie Countervail, Yonex VDM, etc). Maybe you’ll like those better, but given the return policy, I would say giving VT Advantec products a try is isn’t much of a monetary commitment (not much downside, a lot of upside if it helps you the way it’s helped me).
 

Bodhi312

New User
I stand corrected on the return policy
I stand corrected on the return policy.

Still, as tennis products go, I don’t think the prices are astronomical if the products can follow through on the claims (and you are actually interested in that outcome). Per the website, 2 strips are about $20, 4 are $30, and $35 for the replacement grip.

I do realize that not everybody is willing to chance $20-$35, and that’s fine (especially in this economic climate). I just don’t see a reason to attack a small company for offering a product while not even checking the validity of the claims themselves.

I’ve personally found a lot of value in the products, so I posted regarding my own experience, since nobody on the thread seems to have tried the products (yet have rather strong opinions).
 

topspn

Legend
I stand corrected on the return policy


I stand corrected on the return policy.

Still, as tennis products go, I don’t think the prices are astronomical if the products can follow through on the claims (and you are actually interested in that outcome). Per the website, 2 strips are about $20, 4 are $30, and $35 for the replacement grip.

I do realize that not everybody is willing to chance $20-$35, and that’s fine (especially in this economic climate). I just don’t see a reason to attack a small company for offering a product while not even checking the validity of the claims themselves.

I’ve personally found a lot of value in the products, so I posted regarding my own experience, since nobody on the thread seems to have tried the products (yet have rather strong opinions).
And you seem to have signed up just so you can write a couple of posts of support ;)
 

Bodhi312

New User
And you seem to have signed up just so you can write a couple of posts of support ;)
I’m not sure what you’re pointing out here.

Obviously, I signed up to offer my own experience with the products (and company) since much of what had been posted was based on supposition rather than on experience (either direct or indirect). This is understandable since the company is small, the products are new to market, etc.

I do support the company in the way a person supports any product or any company he believes offers a good product, especially one that is in an early stage. I “support” Yonex, Wilson, Babolat, Head, and Adidas in the same way. Those companies are established and have legions off users, so offering my experience isn’t likely to clear up any misconceptions that may be out there with regard to their products.

If you believe I have ulterior motives, I don’t, but I would be happy to address whatever ulterior motives you think I might have (or anything about which you believe I haven’t been truthful) over DM.
 

topspn

Legend
I’m not sure what you’re pointing out here.

Obviously, I signed up to offer my own experience with the products (and company) since much of what had been posted was based on supposition rather than on experience (either direct or indirect). This is understandable since the company is small, the products are new to market, etc.

I do support the company in the way a person supports any product or any company he believes offers a good product, especially one that is in an early stage. I “support” Yonex, Wilson, Babolat, Head, and Adidas in the same way. Those companies are established and have legions off users, so offering my experience isn’t likely to clear up any misconceptions that may be out there with regard to their products.

If you believe I have ulterior motives, I don’t, but I would be happy to address whatever ulterior motives you think I might have (or anything about which you believe I haven’t been truthful) over DM.
You signed up to support a company you work for or are its owner. You have zero credibility on this forum. We are tennis enthusiast and share ideas and experiences. Really not a smart way on your part to push product.
 

Bodhi312

New User
You signed up to support a company you work for or are its owner. You have zero credibility on this forum. We are tennis enthusiast and share ideas and experiences. Really not a smart way on your part to push product.
I DM’d you information on who I am. I do not work for VT Advantec or any company affiliated with it or with the owner of VT Advantec, nor do I have any sort of debt or equity stake with any of the above; I work for a proprietary trading firm in its Chicago office.
 
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Bodhi312

New User
Sure you do. You have no established reputation here, so your experience with the product and company carries no weight.
I wouldn’t expect word of God level credibility given I don’t spend much time on this forum (or any other). I posted simply because I saw misinformation on a not-well-known set of products with which I happen to have actual experience, so I sought to correct that misinformation.

If that’s not enough for you, then I’ll somehow have to find a way to live with that, but it won’t be easy.
 

zinzan8

New User
I wouldn’t expect word of God level credibility given I don’t spend much time on this forum (or any other). I posted simply because I saw misinformation on a not-well-known set of products with which I happen to have actual experience, so I sought to correct that misinformation.
What misinformation did you see here? What misinformation did you correct?

If that’s not enough for you, then I’ll somehow have to find a way to live with that, but it won’t be easy.
Cute.
 

topspn

Legend
You are trying way to hard when all the thread says is outrageous claims for essentially dampening and at very high prices. I just use and have for a very long time a simple #64 elastic band that does the trick for me. If they want to attract players to try simple dampening products then they badly priced by a wide margin. I see they had to drop the pricing from where it was but still way to high to intrigue me. Advice for the new fan poster, don’t try so extra hard to convince long time participants when you have no reputation on these board. None of us trashed the product without trying it but it is dampening material for crying out load with some very lofty claims at crazy pricing.
 

Bodhi312

New User
What misinformation did you see here? What misinformation did you correct?



Cute.
I should say currently inaccurate information rather than misinformation in the case of prices. (Corrected)

Is the grip a replacement grip or an overgrip? (Confirmation that it’s a replacement grip)

Questions regarding whether people in the testimonials actually use the products (they do, at least the ones I know, which is most of them). The products are pretty low profile, so I agree it’s difficult to know which if any products are actually on the racquets.

There was a question of whether anybody has used the products. I have. So I replied.

Admittedly, I was incorrect about the return policy.
 

Bodhi312

New User
You are trying way to hard when all the thread says is outrageous claims for essentially dampening and at very high prices. I just use and have for a very long time a simple #64 elastic band that does the trick for me. If they want to attract players to try simple dampening products then they badly priced by a wide margin. I see they had to drop the pricing from where it was but still way to high to intrigue me. Advice for the new fan poster, don’t try so extra hard to convince long time participants when you have no reputation on these board. None of us trashed the product without trying it but it is dampening material for crying out load with some very lofty claims at crazy pricing.
I’m glad your elastic band is doing the trick for you.

I’m guessing you’re not going to retract the accusation that I’m somebody other than who I said I am in my message to you and in my first post, namely, not affiliated with VT Advantec, but a just a customer of theirs and somebody who knows others who use the products.
 

topspn

Legend
I’m glad your elastic band is doing the trick for you.

I’m guessing you’re not going to retract the accusation that I’m somebody other than who I said I am in my message to you and in my first post, namely, not affiliated with VT Advantec, but a just a customer of theirs and somebody who knows others who use the products.
Are you familiar with the following expression? If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck. You fit the bill, pun intended :X3:
 

topspn

Legend
Did you happen to notice the word probably in that non-cliched phrase? You seem like a relatively bright person, so I assume you know difference between probably and certainly.
Getting quite boring this point in all honesty not worth all this fuss. Yes, all probabilities and no one know who you are for sure. Hope this makes you happy as i have no intention of being part of this anymore
 
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