Advice for natural gut/kevlar hybrid stringing

[locotone07]

I am planning on stringing my K95X with VS touch mains with the kevlar (mains) string from the Dunlop Max Touch hybrid as the cross. I thought this kevlar would be a good choice because of the extremely low tension loss (lower than this or any gut, http://www.racquetsportsindustry.com...ap_aramid.html). Has anyone else experimented with a natural gut/kevlar hybrid? My usual stringing is a hybrid with a poly main (17, SPPP, CF, CP) and a synthetic gut cross (17, OG micro, PSGD, or Sweet) and usually at mid tension ~55lbs. I've never tried either natural gut nor kevlar, I'm not a string breaker and use a semi-western forehand with moderate to heavy spin.
...Anyone have tips or suggestions for my target tension on both mains (gut) and cross (kevlar)?

 

[Final_Match_Point]

Never tried it but i feel as if the kevlar would saw through the gut too quickly

 

[locotone07]

Yeah, I thought about that too but I think anything other than this combo or an all gut stringbead would go dead before I would be able to break this set-up. Anyone else?

 

[Bud]

IMO, Kevlar only feels good in the mains. As a cross, it destroys the feel of any main string.

If anything place the kevlar in the mains and gut in the crosses.

 

[locotone07]

IMO, Kevlar only feels good in the mains. As a cross, it destroys the feel of any main string.

If anything place the kevlar in the mains and gut in the crosses.

I have always thought that the predominate feel in a hybrid stringing were determined by the string in the mains and that the cross played a lesser role.

 

[JavierLW]

I have always thought that the predominate feel in a hybrid stringing were determined by the string in the mains and that the cross played a lesser role.

That's true, which means if you were to take that advice you'd be wasting expensive natural gut, you'd be better off getting a decent cheaper priced multi.

 

[the wise wizard]

i suggest kevlar mains as it will saw through the gut in the crosses, also kevlar mains and gut crosses is a excellent job (what agassi used before lux as i recall) to hit with. surprisingly comfy

 

[locotone07]

That's true, which means if you were to take that advice you'd be wasting expensive natural gut, you'd be better off getting a decent cheaper priced multi.

How so? The both the gut and this kevlar string have extremely low tension loss, not so with multi's.

 

[Bud]

i suggest kevlar mains as it will saw through the gut in the crosses, also kevlar mains and gut crosses is a excellent job (what agassi used before lux as i recall) to hit with. surprisingly comfy

Yeah, nothing wrong with kevlar mains and gut crosses.

 

[locotone07]

Yeah, nothing wrong with kevlar mains and gut crosses.

I'm not suggesting that anything is wrong with it but I was thinking that the gut mains would exhibit more/most of the guts characteristics (feel, touch, pop, resiliency) while this specific kevlar would tame some of the power while not losing more tension (or go dead) before the gut (all my readings indicate that gut is good right up until it breaks). Is my logic flawed?

 

[Bud]

I'm not suggesting that anything is wrong with it but I was thinking that the gut mains would exhibit more/most of the guts characteristics (feel, touch, pop, resiliency) while this specific kevlar would tame some of the power while not losing more tension (or go dead) before the gut (all my readings indicate that gut is good right up until it breaks). Is my logic flawed?

Logically, it would seem that's the case... but, in the field... it's not a good combination, IMO. Terrible feel.

I've yet to try any string jobs with kevlar crosses (and I've tried a variety of mains with kevlar crosses) that feel good. However, kevlar feels really nice as a main with a soft cross.

 

[locotone07]

Logically, it would seem that's the case... but, in the field... it's not a good combination, IMO. Terrible feel.

I've yet to try any string jobs with kevlar crosses (and I've tried a variety of mains with kevlar crosses) that feel good. However, kevlar feels really nice as a main with a soft cross.

Really, so you've specifically tried a gut main/kevlar cross hybrid? If so do you remember the exact strings and tensions used?

 

[Bud]

Really, so you've specifically tried a gut main/kevlar cross hybrid? If so do you remember the exact strings and tensions used?

Yeah, I just tried it again in a PK Ki5PSE. The gut mains are Babolat 15 (50#) and the kevlar crosses were Forten 18 (45#).

Tried it a few times to break the strings in... ended up cutting out the crosses and replacing them with more gut. Huge difference in feel.

I won't string any more of my own racquets with kevlar crosses. I've determined it simply doesn't make a good hybrid cross string.

 

[locotone07]

Yeah, I just tried it again in a PK Ki5PSE. The gut mains are Babolat 15 (50#) and the kevlar crosses were Forten 18 (45#).

Tried it a few times to break the strings in... ended up cutting out the crosses and replacing them with more gut. Huge difference in feel.

I won't string any more of my own racquets with kevlar crosses. I've determined it simply doesn't make a good hybrid cross string.

So, what tension do you recommend I use for the kevlar mains? I was planning to string the gut @ 58lbs.

 

[superstition]

How so? The both the gut and this kevlar string have extremely low tension loss, not so with multi's.

No, kevlar has the highest tension loss.

 

[locotone07]

No, kevlar has the highest tension loss.

This this specific one...please read my original post with link

 

[locotone07]

^^^^try this link: http://www.racquetsportsindustry.com/issues/200709/stringmap_aramid.html

 

[jiericji]

I'm not suggesting that anything is wrong with it but I was thinking that the gut mains would exhibit more/most of the guts characteristics (feel, touch, pop, resiliency) while this specific kevlar would tame some of the power while not losing more tension (or go dead) before the gut (all my readings indicate that gut is good right up until it breaks). Is my logic flawed?

have you ever used kevlar crosses? heck you would have to string around 40's to get any decent spring from them... basically, IMO kevlar crosses will kill almost anystring combo. ur arm also... that is at tensions above 50ish