Advice on switching from gut poly hybrid to full bed copoly

Ramjet

Rookie
Hi there. I recently switched to a pure strike 16×19 and use klip gut mains 15L with cyclone crosses 16. Strung at 52/48. I enjoy the ball pocketing and power and spin and I don't break strings often.
I'm looking to try a full bed of poly. Looking for more power and spin, still soft, and playable for a long time (20 hours).
I was thinking maybe black code 17 maybe at 46 lbs. I tried this in a demo that was 8 months old and I was surprised at how comfortable and playable it was.
Any other suggestions? Please note the playability duration is important as I pay for a stringer. Maybe this is a case of the grass always being greener? Should I just stick to my current set up? Or are there options that would get me the improvement I seek?
 
1) I don't think you'll get more power or spin by switching to all poly (unless you're a pro--there is a pro named Ram)
2) I would try a smooth poly for the crosses (Solinco Outlast, Head Sonic Pro, etc) instead of a shaped poly. If you absolutely think you need a cross that might give you more spin, try a rough poly instead of a shaped poly.
 

Ramjet

Rookie
1) I don't think you'll get more power or spin by switching to all poly (unless you're a pro--there is a pro named Ram)
2) I would try a smooth poly for the crosses (Solinco Outlast, Head Sonic Pro, etc) instead of a shaped poly. If you absolutely think you need a cross that might give you more spin, try a rough poly instead of a shaped poly.
Much appreciated. Maybe a more powerful and smooth poly might be the answer. Thanks
 

alfd

New User
It’s always difficult to recommend strings - it’s a matter of taste…
I used to play with the Pure Strike 16 x 19 (great racket) and my favourite string became Signum Pro Poly Plasma 1.23 strung at 48#. A cheap string with low tension loss and great durability (20+ hours for me). Völk Cyclone is also a great string in the Pure Strike, but the durability is limited. I prefer round strings due to consistancy (less notching).
The Pure Strike is not very picky with strings.
 

jmacdaununder2

Hall of Fame
If you're not already hitting with enough spin to cut through the gut mains with the shaped Cyclone crosses - and you've mentioned that you don't break strings often - you're unlikely to gain much from a swap to full poly, other than a reduction in power; IMO to retain any pocketing and power you'll also need to drop tension to the low 40s.
 

McLovin

Legend
Coming from a former gut/poly player, I agree with most of what others have said. However, if you want to experiment w/ a full bed, a few poly suggestions to try:
  • Tecnifibre Black Code 4S (or just 4S now)
  • Tourna Silver 7 Tour
  • Laserfibre Native Tour (what I use now)
if you’re looking for a new poly cross, I’ve found YPTP to be an excellent all-around option.
 
Much appreciated. Maybe a more powerful and smooth poly might be the answer. Thanks
There is an option which I've tried myself. I normally use a gut/multi hybrid at 60/58 in my 100" PKs or my 105" Fischers. I wanted to try all poly. I put in an 18g (Solinco Revolution) at 30#. I got more power on my softer hit shots, and pretty much the same control on shots I hit out on. The difference was the lack of sound. Now, after a knee replacement, I'll be returning to tennis within a few months. Today, I strung up a Fischer Vacuum Comp Lite (11oz is what they referred to as "Lite"). I used Polyfibre Poly Hightec 1.10. I'm going to try having my wife hit me some balls to get my hand-eye coordination back, so this is going to be my experiment--to see if I can adjust to a lack of sound this time. I'll be playing almost all on clay for now, so that's why I'm trying all poly. I've tried all poly at 50# before and it hurt my arm.
 

Winners or Errors

Hall of Fame
Smooth poly crosses, like several others have mentioned, are the answer. You get ZERO benefit of using the setup with a rough cross. The point of the shaped poly is to grab the ball, which is not what the cross strings do. Also, getting gut/synthetic/multi to slide on rough string surfaces is a losing battle.
 

phanamous

New User
Head Hawk Touch 17. Soft and compliments the gut well. Will give you a bit more power.
HHT17 full bed is nice too though it won't last as long and won't give you more spin either.
 

flanker2000fr

Hall of Fame
If you want more power, you could go from Cyclone to Cyclone Tour in the crosses. Spin should be more or less the same.

But, as others have said, I do not think you will gain much. An aggressively shaped poly like Cyclone in the crosses should saw through the gut mains within a matter of a few hours if you have anywhere near the racquet head speed to generate heavy spin. And a shaped poly's main advantage (spin generation) is lost if used in the crosses.

I would definitely recommend switching to a soft round poly like an Isospeed Cream in the crosses, or maybe even put it in the mains with gut in the crosses, to see how this works for you.
 
Top