In another thread someone mentioned the uniqueness of the Aeropro.
What makes it unique and different from other rackets?
As I said the frame design is revolutionary.
Every other racquet has about the same beam width throughout
The Aero is very wide in some places and much thinner I'm others.
Were you not aware of the proliferation of racket designs in the late 80's/early 90's?
I rather doubt that, lol. You imply that babolat invented the variable beam tweener, this is just not the case, such racquets have been around for years.
I didn't think I was implying it .....I actually said it.
But please be my guest .....prove me wrong . Go for it.
I am the someone. LOL.
As I said the frame design is revolutionary.
Every other racquet has about the same beam width throughout
The Aero is very wide in some places and much thinner I'm others.
In fact TW has no idea what the hell the beam width actually is and lists its as
"0.0"???? Anyone know why?
Here's my Yonex 8600 Green OPS (Oval Pressed Shaft) circa around 1979, strung with some ugly orange string - sorry about the color balance in the image - bad lighting. The wooden palette is a trip.....
In another thread someone mentioned the uniqueness of the Aeropro.
What makes it unique and different from other rackets?
I have always hated Babolat, I guess because I like the touch, feel and volleying of thin beamed player racquets, but I just tried the AeroPro Drive, I am in love, I am have been so ignorant all these years, gonna try the Pure Drive and then decide which I like the best!
Racquets with variations in beam widths for performance, feel, stability, etc have been around for years.
Yonex had it with their OPS Metal racquets. Their OPS racquets first came out in the mid-late 1970s.
Welcome to the dark side. Just know that playing with Babolats are lot like dancing with the devil. You will have flashes of brilliance and at other times you go insane trying to reel in the power they possess.
You have got to be kidding me ???? You think that idiotic racquet is anything like the sleek aerodynamic aero pro drive???
I am the someone. LOL.
As I said the frame design is revolutionary.
Every other racquet has about the same beam width throughout
The Aero is very wide in some places and much thinner I'm others.
In fact TW has no idea what the hell the beam width actually is and lists its as
"0.0"???? Anyone know why?
Racquets with variations in beam widths for performance, feel, stability, etc have been around for years.
Yonex had it with their OPS Metal racquets. Their OPS racquets first came out in the mid-late 1970s.
Never stated it was aerodynamic.
And I quote:
The Yonex OPS deigns shows that variable width frames is more than decades old. Moreover, you seem to be grouping variable width and aerodynamic into one.
-SF
the aero pro dive design is patented. You can only patent something if it. Is unique . So the argument is over.
Having said that "unique" does not mean good. There's a truck load of racquets that are unique but suck. You are welcome to think the APD is crap. But I'm sorry by law it is unique. The court has already ruled on this.
Find where I called it "crap" or to the like or stated anything remotely negative about the aeropro.
Where the aeropro would be unique would be with it's proprietary aerodynamic design. As proved, variable width racquets have been around for decades. In your first post you described a variable width beam not specifically an aerodynamic.
-SF
I didn't say you think it's crap but it is objectively unique.
In order to patent a product it must be unique.
When Babolat applied for a patent they had to prove the APD was unique . In 2004 Babolat won it's case in court and the APD design was patented. If anyone copies it then they can be sued for patent infringement.
The APD has been declared by law to be unique.
The question of this post was whether there was anything unique about the APD.....nothing more nothing less. No hidden inuendos.
This matter has already been decided in court and is a non issue. The APD is unique by law . Case closed.
Move on.
Yes the AeroPro is unique. Just as the new Gamma RZR aerodynamic racquets are unique. Just as the Babolat Aero Tour series, babolat's first "Aero" series is unique: http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/REVIEWS/BATPL/BATPLReview.html
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Babolat can't sue itself so it is allowed to make as many aero designs as it wants.
Gamma is nothing like the aero. Check out the beam specs: Beam Width: 22mm / 22mm / 22mm /
Regardless we all agree apd is unique.
End of thread.
This is boring
Is this uniquely "arrowdynamic" enough for you?
-SF
Drakulie,
Lest I forget the Pro Supex (Aero) Dynamic! It's uniquely un-unique I guess.
-SF
Hahaha I love that company . Did you see their yonEx copy? I think it's called the uniflex. They squared off the sides so Yonex couldn't sue them.
Although I think the yon patent is over....I think you can only patent something for 20 years.
The Pro Supex Dynamic Energy racquet has the same mold as the APD.
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I love that company they make me laugh. How do they get away with it?
Its actually a Donnay Pro One painted to look like a Pro Supex Frame. LOL
Just kidding. Not sure how they get away with it, or even if they are getting away with anything. Perhaps they claim their design has some minor difference. ????
I didn't say you think it's crap but it is objectively unique.
In order to patent a product it must be unique.
When Babolat applied for a patent they had to prove the APD was unique . In 2004 Babolat won it's case in court and the APD design was patented. If anyone copies it then they can be sued for patent infringement.
The APD has been declared by law to be unique.
The question of this post was whether there was anything unique about the APD.....nothing more nothing less. No hidden inuendos.
This matter has already been decided in court and is a non issue. The APD is unique by law . Case closed.
Move on.
So in 20 years they all will be talking about Exo3 ports since their patented as well? how bout d30? My BLX Pro Open is 24/26/24 does that make it worth talking about?
You have got to be kidding me ???? You think that idiotic racquet is anything like the sleek aerodynamic aero pro drive???
Look bro hate the Babolat APD all you want. Call it crap ....I don't care.....
But the APD is one of a kind love it or hate it.
The fact is that it's shape is in fact unique that's why it's patented. They wouldn't be able to patent it if it wasn't unique .
The APD is revolutionary in design. Having said that you are welcome to hate . But it's design is unique because there has been nothing with thy shape before it or after it .
the aero pro dive design is patented. You can only patent something if it. Is unique . So the argument is over.
Having said that "unique" does not mean good. There's a truck load of racquets that are unique but suck. You are welcome to think the APD is crap. But I'm sorry by law it is unique. The court has already ruled on this.
I didn't say you think it's crap but it is objectively unique.
In order to patent a product it must be unique.
When Babolat applied for a patent they had to prove the APD was unique . In 2004 Babolat won it's case in court and the APD design was patented. If anyone copies it then they can be sued for patent infringement.
The APD has been declared by law to be unique.
The question of this post was whether there was anything unique about the APD.....nothing more nothing less. No hidden inuendos.
This matter has already been decided in court and is a non issue. The APD is unique by law . Case closed.
Move on.
its just too funny, its a big dumb tweener, nothing special except for one endorsee (who uses a custom stick anyway)
but volley boy has fallen for the marketing.
funny
I've got the APDGT as my main racket so obviously I like it, but that stuff above really makes me laugh. Serious over-reaction and way too much drama there.
This is boring
I don't find your cluelessness boring at all.
I think it's more like TT dislikes absolutes and that's been dealt in spades here.
PS... 84 posts says you care... especially since ~20 of them were from last night at least!
I've got the APDGT as my main racket so obviously I like it, but that stuff above really makes me laugh. Serious over-reaction and way too much drama there.
So unique it has clones...
Every racquet has knockoff clones. Just go check out prosupex racquets. All they do is make knockoffs of everything from Head to Wilson .....I don't understand how they get away with it?
But from my understanding they even have iPhone knockoffs and even have fake apple stores in china where they wear the same uniforms as apple employees.
Itnsorta funny.
I don't need to check them out, I've held/played them from local distributor.
Maybe similar mold with a horrid pj but not even comparable to real thing.
I don't need to check them out, I've held/played them from local distributor.
Maybe similar mold with a horrid pj but not even comparable to real thing.
the aero pro dive design is patented. You can only patent something if it. Is unique . So the argument is over.
Having said that "unique" does not mean good. There's a truck load of racquets that are unique but suck. You are welcome to think the APD is crap. But I'm sorry by law it is unique. The court has already ruled on this.
Every racquet has knockoff clones. Just go check out prosupex racquets. All they do is make knockoffs of everything from Head to Wilson .....I don't understand how they get away with it?
But from my understanding they even have iPhone knockoffs and even have fake apple stores in china where they wear the same uniforms as apple employees.
Itnsorta funny.
I have 2 apdc's and a wilson kobra tour. They were different like night and day but then i customized it to the same specs and now they play the same though the kobra is a bit more flexy but that's all.
FYI, "Unique" is not even remotely close to the standard for patentability.
What is this law you speak of that makes the aero pro drive design "unique," and what "court" has already ruled on the "uniqueness" of this design? Please provide a citation, or a copy of the opinion.
FWIW, I've seen a lot of people assert that the aero beam design is patented. Babolat certainly doesn't make any such representations on its own website or its products. I've searched on Google Patents and the USPTO database to find a patent owned by Babolat covering the aero beam design with no success. If anyone can point to a specific patent I've love to read through it.