chrischris
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Im not liking nor dlsliking it. But from an objective perspective it seems you are unable to hold science as a gauge of limits and possibilities.
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Affordable Japanese classic cars you can enjoy
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Crocodile
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Ok appreciate your feedback
chrischris
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Croc, whats the meaning of the expression 'Used car salesman' to you?
Crocodile
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In some circles used car sales man and real estate agents for that matter had a a negative reputation due to dodgy dealings especially if the product was tarted up to look better than it was. New car salesman are also are known to using unscrupulous tactics to increase the dealers profit margins.
That’s one view, however my personal experience is that those salesman and women who offer great customer service year on year do a good job and have good community reputation, hence they stay in the industry for a long time.
Now from my perspective nearly all the cars I have bought I bought them privately and I have never spent a lot on cars and never bought a new car and I have done very well.
Crocodile
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As a supplementary comment I believe if you do your research and due diligence when buying cheap used cars you can do very well. Many who are not knowledgeable on cars can get the car they are interested in buying inspected by a mechanic or motoring organisation.
I’f you are buying a cheap used car it’s probably better to go with a car that has a simple mechanical layout, has a full service history with verified odometer reading and preferably a one or two owner car. Ideally you look for the newest car with the lowest Kay’s with the service history, in some situations you will be better off getting an older car with lower kilometres then a newer car with very high kilometres. I prefer to buy cars that have slightly less than normal mileage snd immaculate condition unless I am buying well under market value and have the means to do the improvements.
Then you have parts availability and insurance. Worldwide I would say that locally made Ford and locally delivered Toyota ‘s have the most parts available and off course GM/ Holden/ Opel/ Vauxhall depending on where you live.
In USA you shouldn’t have problems with most Japanese cars with maybe the exception of some rare JDM imports.
I’f you are buying a cheap used car it’s probably better to go with a car that has a simple mechanical layout, has a full service history with verified odometer reading and preferably a one or two owner car. Ideally you look for the newest car with the lowest Kay’s with the service history, in some situations you will be better off getting an older car with lower kilometres then a newer car with very high kilometres. I prefer to buy cars that have slightly less than normal mileage snd immaculate condition unless I am buying well under market value and have the means to do the improvements.
Then you have parts availability and insurance. Worldwide I would say that locally made Ford and locally delivered Toyota ‘s have the most parts available and off course GM/ Holden/ Opel/ Vauxhall depending on where you live.
In USA you shouldn’t have problems with most Japanese cars with maybe the exception of some rare JDM imports.
Big_Dangerous
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The generalization in terms of that phrase is that if you refer to someone as a "used car salesman" it means they are basically a liar, untrustworthy and will try to take your money and run.
Crocodile
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Yes that tends to be the generalisation that people use for that term. I guess that could apply to anyone selling something with bad intentions but most of us have bought and sold items many times and there is right and wrong way to do things;
chrischris
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Turbo-87
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There is something to be said for that. For shadetree mechanics, older cars are easier and cheaper to own. I like to look at the total cost of ownership when considering "fun" cars that are your second vehicle. It all comes down to parts availability and the aftermarket if you are looking to improve and modify it. I swayed from my decision making process by getting into a Corvette. Chevrolet is not known for quality and the Corvette Tax with repair shops is a real thing. I have only taken cars to a mechanic a handful of times in my whole life since I have the skills and means, but I am thinking that will change with the vette.
chrischris
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UCSM.
mad dog1
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NA could definitely be considered a classic. Maybe the NB could be as well.
Crocodile
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Excellent choice
Crocodile
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Yep, I know the feeling, I guess now we have to get our heads together and pick the cars that are cheap now that will do well soon. I think because so many cars are too expensive now that it’s the cars that are reviewed by the likes Ian Seabrook from Hubnut and Steph from I drive a classic, Brown Car guy, Motoring Box and many others that are latching on to will provide some of the options and clues:
chrischris
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Darn.. Thats tough.
I recall selling some Vinyl EPs and LPs that were rare (l didnt know) some 10 years ago that would take in 10 to 50 times more today..
travlerajm
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My parents owned a later gen 929 for a decade. Great car.
Curiously, I had an incident in a parking where my key opened someone else’s 929 of the same color. Even odder, it turned out that the key I used wasn’t even for the 929, but for our family’s other car, a Ford Probe.
The Mazda 929s were manufactured at the same Ford factory as the probe.
Big_Dangerous
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Well they don't even need to be a salesman to be honest. I think I remember Keyshawn Johnson called Jon Gruden a used car salesman after he got fired from the Las Vegas Raiders coaching job for making racially insensitive remarks and using racial slurs.
LuckyR
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IMO the best bargain in cars is my actual car, namely a 996 C4s, they go for about 20s to 30s and they perform essentially the same (or better) than a 993 C4s that goes for 100k more.
travlerajm
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My post-college years car was a 1990 Mazda 323. Served me well getting from A to B from ‘95 until I retired it in ‘06.
onehandbh
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I always thought the 929 was aesthetically unpleasing. Now quite Pontiac Aztec level, but not great.
Someone told me the Probe was popular car in the lgbt community. Is this true. I had never heard of that until he told me.
Someone told me the Probe was popular car in the lgbt community. Is this true. I had never heard of that until he told me.
Crocodile
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My understanding of the Ford Probe, the version that was released in 1992 is that it was a collaboration between Ford and Mazda and the Probe’s styling and interior was designed by a women.
In the UK the Probe was marketed as a replacement of the 1960’s and 1989’s Capri Coupe whereas in Australia it was released to compete with the Holden - Opel - Vauxhall Calibra, the Honda Prelude, Toyota Celica, Mazda MX6, Nissan 200sx, Eunos 30X and Peugeot 406 coupe. Both the Probe and Calibra struggled to sell in Australia as buyers bought the Celica and Prelude with performance buyers opting for the Nissan 209sx and those with more money bought the 300zx Z32. The Peugeot 406 coupe was rated as the most beautifully styled car from the outside but was more an elegant cruiser.
This think the Probe was definitely a good looker but quite rare on the roads today. There’s a interesting used car comparison in the Uk with the Calibra that I will attach shortly - both cars I think will appreciat
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