Discussion in 'Former Pro Player Talk' started by SAFMAN69, Oct 28, 2009.
did he really hate playing tennis? hate winning those grandslams? and crying at victory?
We'll have to wait and see what the deal was about, when the book's available...
He was a kid that was pushed a lot by his father during his childhood, and remember he turned pro when he was 16 and at the time he did meth he was almost out of tennis for good..........
You dont come back when youre 28 yo and play all the way till youre 36, and you dont need the money, if you hate tennis.
obviously he was disillusioned enough to screw around with crystal meth....his life could have taken a very tragic turn. the turnaround he accomplished is pretty impressive. his new book sounds like a good read.
Well then, the pre-release revelations have done their work and all that's left is for AA to appear on Oprah and Larry King to sell some more copies.
hes on meth.
Every pro player who is thinking of writing an autobiography should go with Agassi's publicist/pr person.
His revelation has stirred so much press which of course will translate to $$.
Very effective. It'll probably sell more than Sampras' book because of it.
What ramifications it will have on his reputation we'll simply have to wait and see.
I personally think he'll ride this out and will have it as a small footnote on his legacy.
Yeah, for sure. I'll bet a lot of publishers require some sort of juicy tidbit like this in an autobiography to jump-start the publicity tour for the book. Plain-vanilla bios like Sampras' and Blake's probably didn't sell that many copies, but Andre's sure will now.
I don't think he is making this confession in his book for the money. He does not need the money. Back in the day for many years, he was #2 in endorsement deals of all male pro athletes right behind Jordan. In addition, Steffi has plenty as well.
Its refreshing for an athlete to be brutually honest. Everyone makes mistakes on the journey but its the end product which counts.
I have always been a bigger fan of Pete and read his book. Pete's book was fascinating because it focused on his tennis. His personal life discussed in the book was mostly as it related to his tennis career.
Even without this revelation regarding meth , Agassi's book promised to be very interesting-the ups and downs and ups again of his personal as well as professional life and his metamorphosis into a well-rounded person who gives back.
Interesting column on ESPN website http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/columns/story?columnist=reilly_rick&id=4601145
^^ Well, if not to fatten his wallet, then perhaps to supplement his Agassi Foundation. Now, that would be a noble thing to do, wouldn't it? Expose your skeletons to help raise money for his Vegas school?
^^Two birds with one very very big stone: Agassi will go down as a resurgent phoenix who came out with a secret he very well couldve taken to his grave, instead he chose to come clean and reveal his dark times and how he came back from that......
AND, by revealing himself his story is gonna sell like beer in Oktoberfest in Berlin.
I'm sure being a kid pushed into pro tennis, he secretly hated it. I think some have said that same about Safin.... I think you could point to Agassi's waste of his talent early in his career to some of this resentment - BUT there's no doubt that later on he realized what he had in tennis, appreciated it and an took advantage of it.
Well yes, it sounds like he used meth, not crystal meth, which is a completely different drug isn't it?
And all the headlines are saying crystal meth, this is really misleading. Crystal meth is a really dangerous addictive drug, whereas meth is just speed isn't it?
How about somebody open a thread tiled " Open" dealing with Andre Agassi's book. There will be plenty to discuss, sort of a book club if you will.
It promises to be a very interesting read to say the least. It could be a biography in which they reveal virtually everything and that is something that is very rare.
From a pure tennis playing point of view I hope he is just as honest in his revelations about his opponents and what he thought of their play and their weaknesses.
I loved to watch Agassi play. If he just had the mobility of an Edberg, Sampras or a Lendl no telling how great his record could have been.
Agassi has always been pretty open about his relationship with tennis (and really, about his father.) And this is BTW not unusual for many top tennis players, given the demands and sacrifices, it requires to achieve that kind of elite level. That is, if you ever can.
Still, it was the one stable element in his life. It's like family in that way. Leave it. Return to it. Grow up. Make peace. All the things involved with becoming a man.
Yes. This is no secret. Agassi hated tennis at times growing up, as did all his siblings. Agassi certainly had ups and downs in his pro career, and, for all of us who followed his career, the 97 time period was quite obviously, not an "up", for several reasons I won't bother elaborating on now, as I and others have posted about it many times before.
And, as you astutely point out, this is hardly a "revelation". I am sure nearly every single pro tennis player has at some point hated the game, hated the travel, hated the competition, hated the politics etc. Frustration, burnout, and many other things contribute, as does a lifetime of nearly nothing but tennis.
Interesting stuff. I guess Agassi didn't feel like keeping this bottled up anymore.
I remember watching an interview with Agassi and Steffi.. Agassi said he hated the person he BECAME because of tennis. And when he got away from the game he felt he was a much better person.
Meth as opposed to crystal meth is still a horribly dangerous drug. Even if its digested, and not injected. It destroyed many peoples lives back in the 50s and 60s.
There is a reason the german wehrmacht discontinued almost all distribution of the wonderdrug after the first few years of the war. The drug was digested and not inhaled or injected.
And there is a reason why the pharmaceutical company Lilly (eli lilly) discontinued selling it. They too had it administered in pill format.
I am shocked in the last few days. Hopefully Nadal and Federer are and have been clean.
Sampras wrote a book??
How can sampras the most boring guy to walk the earth write a book that anyone would want to read?? Chapter one "how to turn an entire generation off of tennis" step one : play with no emotion, personality, style or feeling. If Michael Jackson had a copy of sampras' book he would still be with us today.
Don't believe everything you read
So unless you look like a gay pirate (on meth) you are boring and robotic?
How old are you? I'm guessing about ten.
^ I agree.
thats your argument?
i think your pathetic response proves that sampras as well as yourself are the two most boring guys to walk the earth
Did he hate money too?
There is an interesting thread from back in 2004 about Agassi's feelings on the game and his relationship with his father:
This thread is ridiculous. AA came to "love" tennis--his own words in some of the new excerpts out.
Why don't you guys wait until reading the whole book or at least until someone can read it for you before making up your minds.
In the "60 Minutes" interview tonight, Agassi told Katie Couric that he "hated tennis for most of his life", and that it wasn't until he met and married Steffi Graf that he decided tennis wasn't so bad as he realized that if it wasn't for tennis, he never would have met Steffi, so he says that made his opinion of tennis "even out a little bit in his mind".
If he hated tennis that much then he would have quit . . . simple as that. He was probably pushed so hard so young that he burned out. Obviosly his sacrifice and the money he was making were important enough.
At the end of the day. Reason wins.
how about if he had Sampras's serve, Mac's vollley, Chang's quickness....the point is he is who he is. He was an all-time great player. EVERY player has a weakness.
LOL..I doubt Nadal has been clean.
Pete was boring simply because he was not "confrontational/sensational". Pete just wanted to play. He did not get involved with all the ype and circus called pro sports. But he did play with emotion, but he just did not show it on every point ala Monfils. No style?? you mean the way he dressed.. because his game had style. Feeling???? Now you have proven you are completely full of crap. You never read Pete's book, so who are you to judge? Its obvious you are an immature kid and a clueless one at that.
no emotion or feeling??? This is just short clips, Pete showed emotion plenty of times especially in the big matches.
(guess you missed where he was in tears because his beloved coach was DYING. Guess he has no feeling..you are a flake)
(again, he showed emotion. he was just not a jerk about it and did not celebrate EVERY point like many of today's players do..its obviosu you never watched Pete play).
I guessed 9.
hard to give up millions. even if he hated tennis for most of his life, its not easy to give up with all that tennis brought him. maybe he hated "tennis", but loved the limelight, money, fame, etc. how many people hate their jobs, but don't quit because they make too much? pretty simple logic why Agassi never quit tennis (he just took his "breaks" once in a while.).
What can I say, you're right.
He hated tennis for most of his career, did you watch the 60 minutes thing last night? He learned to love the game AFTER he quit meth and made his comeback. His coach said he had to start over, or quit the game. He decided to start over and learned to like the game. But up until after '97, yes he hated tennis. I don't blame him, I was forced into sports, I was forced to play football for 8 years and I hated it, but I was good at it so my parents kept making me play. I totally understand Andre, even though my experience wasn't nearly as bad as his
I know what you meant and I agree. Can you imagien if he had the wheels of Lleyton Hewitt?? My god the possibilities..but its moot. But I get what you mean.
you should be ashamed of yourself. you are from Texas. You HAVE to play football. Don't blame your parents, blame the State of Texas.
Agree with this, what is Federers weakness iyo?
hmm, Fed weakness. I guess maybe his weaknesses (the ones I mention) were not weak like Gonzo BH weak, but none the less not nearly his strength.
His BH would be considered his most glaring weakness because it could be exploited. Fed has a very strong all-around game, but his BH is not at all a strength. 2nd serve to a point. Fed is a tough call...he has owned everyone not named Nadal over the past 5 years so...
oh, mental strength. way too many loses in major finals.
Yeah ,agree with this.
I wonder how hungry he still is, he didnt look very hungry yesterday vs Djokovic imo
My thinking is he will concentrate more on the majors. he has a family now and he is at the tail end of his career. could he play until 35, most likely but now he has kids. so maybe he won't play more than 3-4 years. I could see him play a couple less tourney's/less appearances to conentrate on the majors. I think the loss from Delpio woke him up.
This is vintage TW stuff going on right here:
1) This thread (a poor one at that) about a book that no posters have yet even read becomes about Federer.
2) Posters talk as though Federer is having a bad year when he had the best year of anyone playing, won 2 slams and lost in 5 sets in the finals of the other two slams and does not have a losing record against Nadal for the year.
Great stuff guys!
I think at some point in every player's career, they've hated tennis at times.
Great post LOL !!!
Totally understandable that Andre hated tennis, even more respectable that he was able to attain the level of success he did coping with his disdain for the sport. I've heard sooo many times that it's what's between the ears that separates the great from the rest of us. We all agree that Andre is a complex individual and the fact that he was able to put on his game face on. How simple would it have been for him to collect a few years of checks from Nike, Canon, Donnay and Head and just call it's quits. After bottoming out, he totally rededicates himself, not only to tennis but to himself, burries the demons from his past and becomes more successful in his re-birth.
An inspiration to anyone who's been though a trying time in life..be it financial, personal, work-related. I always find it comforting to know that I'm not the only one who has persevered through a trying time in life. I make mental notes of others' stories, it gives me inspiration for the next time I face a rough patch.
Well said Orion. I think Tennis was thrust on Agassi and he didn't choose it obviously when he under 5, due to his father's obsession. Yet, in 1997, he finally did choose Tennis according to him. So that, he explains, was how he reconnected with the Game and started viewing it differently. He finally "owned" Tennis and it didn't "own" him.
I was a big fan of his while following him throughout his career and watching him play live in Houston during the Masters event here. He was my favorite player during the 1990's-2006 and finally started "filling the void" left for me after Borg left the game so suddenly. I also really liked and admired Sampras as well, but I tended to root for Agassi vs. Sampras because I tend to root for powerful baseliners and underdogs in general (except Borg lol..).
I think he's basically a very complicated, highly intelligent, and talented person, who happens to also be a really good person deep down. He's someone I view as part entertainer, performer, philosopher, and philanthropist. He was at his core a great tennis player who achieved so much through a combination of tennis skill, hard work and determination. For him to go through his childhood and turn out the way he is today is a testament to his sheer determination, intelligence, and talent. His father's influence, like much in life, had a good side and a bad side. The good side was that he made Agassi into a great tennis player, but he may have accomplished just as much with a different approach. The bad side is what his upbringing did to Agassi on a personal level. A junior player I knew when I was very young had a Dad that was much like Mr. Agassi. It was quite sad, but there wasn't much I could do at that age (10-11).
Agassi's interview with Katie Couric was sad. He almost starated crying when he asked for compassion.
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