Discussion in 'Pro Match Results and Discussion' started by sekine, Feb 3, 2006.
4-6, 2-6. Bye-bye Andre.
Ouch!! Go Vince!!!
andre losing challegers now. fading fast.
Guilllermo only dropped 6 points on his first serve... that's pretty impressive, IMO
Hope Andre picks it up for the SAP because I want him to get to the semis. I had a bad feeling about Garcia-Lopez when I saw the draw, and I've never seen the guy before! Maybe I'm just unsure about Agassi right now. A loss is good for him so he knows where he's at and what he has to do to get back to his 2005 form.
this is a catastrophe.
G-L is qualifier level.
he was beaten by all the Spaniards here in Montreal during training and is one of the smallest.
Agassi said that he was out-hit and hasn't gotten the cobwebs out. Agassi is a lot about outsmarting the other player, but when you haven't played any matches and have only done some hitting in the past weeks, it's unlikely to go and win a tournament. He'll be back in form soon. He's always been good about being able to hit the ball better than anyone at any time, no matter how much practice he's had, but at this age it gets tougher to be a superstar all the time.
Agassi did what was important to him; he picked up his appearance fee and left, and gave his usual song and dance speech. He has played matches, right after the big event in Shanghai, after he faked an injury; he played an exhibition match with Roddick. Time for him to retire.
It is all about the money with him.
why am I not surpirsed?!
This post ended up being nothing more than a chance to bash Andre. I feel as though people should try make good points in a mature manner that respects the discussed person and perhaps even fans of the discussed player. I will come out and say that I really enjoy Agassi but I am man enough to say that on that day we must tip our hats to his opponent for beating him. I myself have beaten players that are stronger, as well as I have lost to opponents that are deemed weaker. A loss doesn't mean you are at that level. At the tennis masters in Montreal I saw Alberto Martins practice partner clean his clock on a practise court. Lets just all be less outspoken.
Agassi time has passed! After his behavior in Shanghai I don't know how anyone can be a fan. Just because you lose, does not mean you pack up and leave, and then 2 weeks later play an exhibition match.
You do know he demanded an appearance fee just to play this event, plus somehow received an easy draw. So if this is bashing, Oh well it is truth bashing!
By the way, Delray isn't a challenger.
The buzz around the tournament has been that Andre didn't even care to be there. His general body language and actions just didn't give off the impression that he had a deep desire to play in this tournament. I'm sure he picked up a sizeable appearance fee to take back to his charity and school.
His behavior in Shanghai?? First of all, his injury was the most serious out of any of those guys, except maybe Safin's long-term knee problem. It was the same torn ligaments injury as Federer, except it was more severe and Agassi was completely off his feet for weeks. He made it clear before the match that he was testing an injury and wasn't sure how he'd hold up. And unlike any of the other players, he actually played that first match and at least gave the audience a show. Going to the Masters cost him a trip to his best Grand Slam.
In Shanghai, some of us actually watched the match, he was not injured. He only played 1 match, not 2 according too: (http://stevegtennis.com/results/2005/a-masters.txt) and was not injured when he arrived. He actually practiced a full week before the tournament, on the courts. Even the ESPN announcers as bias as they are could see no injury. Davydenko beat him easily, and Agassi quit.
2nd year in a row he has quit. Quitting like that cost him a lot of fans and support. I think everyone saw the real Agassi, and it is pretty ugly. Then several weeks later he played and exhibition match with Roddick, you think that was a real injury? I don't. Torn ligaments do not heel in a couple of weeks, they take several months.
Time for him to retired!
I don't know what match you were watching. I watched that match and it was obvious that he was injured. And the ESPN announcers didn't seem bias at all. They also seemed concerned that he appeared to be injured. At least Agassi collects his appearance fees for a good cause. The "real" Agassi ugly? - (I assume you're speaking of his character). That's just laughable. No other athlete in the world is as generous and philanthropic as he is. "You" don't believe he was injured"? Are you an orthopaedic surgeon? Did you see the x-rays? Do you honestly believe that he'd miss his favourite Slam if he wasn't injured? BTW - a "heel" is the back part of your foot. I think you mean "heal".
Did you see the x-rays? Tell us how 3 weeks later he was able to do an exhibitation match with Roddick?
I still have it recorded and will watch it again. If he was injured he would have quit during the match, he did not!
If Agassi was not injured, then why did he skip the Australian Open?
No, I didn't see the x-rays. But I'm not the one accusing him of faking an injury. And he didn't quit at Roland Garros last year - when even you must admit that he was in terrible pain. He said afterward that he had never quit a match and never would if he could manage to play on. As for the exhibition, he also said he and Steffi were committed and didn't want to disappoint anyone. He said the same thing about Shanghai - that people were counting on him coming, so he thought he'd try. In hindsight he shouldn't have gone.
I don't mean to argue with anyone, but what makes me angry is people like you who feel that they should decide when someone should retire. Would you like others telling you what you should do? Wouldn't you think it was arrogant for someone else to decide your life. And Andre is still playing at an extremely high level and generates more interest in tennis than anyone else on the Tour. The way tennis is struggling for any recognition, we should be grateful that he's still playing.
Is sort of strange, he skips the AO and the week after he competes in a small tournament and loses to a qualifier. Guest you need to ask Agassi.
I wouldn't make too much of his loss at Delray. He's just coming back and it takes time to be consitent night after night. Plus the body has to adjust to playing at that intensity, especially when you reach your mid-30s.
Think about it, Agassi could be playing the Senior Tour right now. How ugly would that be? Nobody would take a game off him.
You must be deluded, barry. Why do people have such hateful feelings towards people they don't even know? I watched the entire match and could tell something was obviously wrong. He was hesitant to run and he missed pretty much every single backhand return. This is Andre friggin' Agassi, when he gets his racquet on the return he never misses. I guess he purposely lost the match to a guy that had never previously taken a set off him so that he didn't have to play, then he dropped out of the Australian Open because he didn't have the guts to play in a depleted field in his best Grand Slam.
Like I said ask Agassi, don't ask me why he skipped the AO and played a small tournament. I watched the match too, and I saw him running around and playing his usual game, Davydenko was just better and Agassi lost it and quit.
2nd time he has done this, kind of says it all. Guess it is the only place he ever gets injuried.
not that I agree one way or the other, but I can absolutely understand why Agassi would skip the AO and played a small tournament a week later.
First, it wasn't a week, considering the preparation time for the AO and the 2 weeks during the AO, it is more than 1 month of lead time.
Plus, even assuming Agassi was about 80% healthy before AO, he might not want to work so hard and risking the injury again just to get to the 2nd or 3rd round of AO and then lose at the beginning of the second week due to not being 100% to begin with.
The season is 10-11 month long and AO is in January. It is totally understandable that taking care of his health issue is in his best interest. Playing the small tournament was just simply a better channel to test how fit he was at the time, rather than in a Grand Slam.
I watched the match again and the first set was 6-4 Davydenko. At 2 all in the 2nd set Agassi was up 40-15 and got ripped off on an ace. He got frustrated, and started grabbing his shoulder. After that he quit playing.
His court movement was the same in both sets, just could not serve. So if it was a foot injury, it never was visible during the match. If anything he could have claimed a shoulder problem which would have been believable.
So many injuries, he should retire.
Maybe he didn't claim it was his shoulder, because it wasn't his shoulder that was bothering him. Maybe you can't seem to grasp the idea that he wasn't faking - that it was his ankle that was injured - as he has stated all along. And you contradict yourself - in one sentence you're inferring that he was faking an injury and in the next your saying he should retire because he has so many injuries. Make up your mind. And I'm sure that Andre's just been breathlessly waiting for your opinion on his life, in order to make his next move.
He should retire from the tour, not contradicting anything. Maybe you should go back and watch the match, 2-2 in the 2nd set, see for yourself. Did you even watch the match?
Even Mac said it does not look good, Agasii was grabbing his shoulder!
Can't believe he pulled out with a foot injury, he faked it! and quit the tournament! Took his toys and went home for the exhibition match with Roddick 3 week later.
Yes, I did see the match. I did not tape it, so I can't review it.
But, fine, whatever, of course, if it makes you happy, you're right. He made up the whole thing. All he wanted was the money. He stashed it away with all his other millions while chuckling about how he "fooled" everyone - except you, of course.
How sad to live with such a negative opinion of people you don't even know.
How sad someone like you believe all the hype about a player you don't even know!
I don't believe in "hype". I believe in giving people the benefit of the doubt. I believe in live and let live - even famous people. I believe in trying to look on the positive instead of the negative. I believe in the Golden Rule.
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