Alcaraz’s US Open win: more likely to be a Fed @ Wimbledon 2003 moment, or a PETE @ US Open 1990 moment?

[jl809]

Federer’s first slam win at Wimbledon 03 was the beginning of a new era. He was back the following year with a vengeance, having already won the 2003 YE finals and 2004 AO, and exerted a period of tour-level dominance that would last several years.

A teenage PETE’s magnificent 1990 US Open win, however, was not such an unlocking moment. He would not get past the QF of a slam in 1991 and only made the F of 1 slam, the US Open, in 1992 - losing to Edberg. He finally won his next slam nearly 3 years later, at Wimbledon.

Carlitos clearly has some potential ATG skills, and he is emerging at a time when the 20s-year-old tour group is weak and inconsistent. However, Djokovic is still around and chasing records, and Nadal was able to beat Chaz even on HC when the former was in-form.

Will next season be the start of the King Charles era, or will we have to wait until the Big 2 are done? Will we even see a reign at all?

 

[NatF]

More like PETE. Don't think Carlos is ready to take 2023 by the horns like Fed, I expect him to perform better than Pete in 1991 though and possibly grab a slam.

 

[Kralingen]

Given the choice between one of the 6 or 7 greatest tennis seasons ever (beginning the unparalleled greatest 4 year run tennis has ever seen) or the other option… I’m going to choose the other option

I don’t think he will be as unsuccessful as PETE or indeed post 08 Djokovic though, mostly due to much easier competition. Maybe Becker or Nadal is a better comparison, needs a couple years of seasoning and challenging for Slams before breaking out but will still win more Slams before age 22. Borg’s 2 Slams per year would be best case scenario, but I doubt he’ll reach that either.

 

[Zara]

Disappears into oblivion.

 

[mike danny]

Technically what started the Fed era was 2003 YEC.

 

[Hitman]

I kind of see Federer's win over Sampras at W 2001 as his big step, but he needed two years to kind of get everything together.

 

[Zara]

Fedpras was the real deal; tiny Carlos is all hype.

 

[Nadal_Django]

Federer was bomb waiting to explode before 03 Wimbledon. He was already the top favourite at 2003 RG, kinda underachiever up until that moment, but anyone could have see that he is the most talented and complete player on the tour. He won Wimbledon in pretty dominant fashion.

Alcaraz is also very talented, but clearly not the best on the tour. He scraped through a crippled field at USO and was kinda at the right place in the right time. I would take 4 or 5 players over him on Hard and Nadal and Djokovic maybe even Zverev on clay, and I don't want to start about grass. So the only way he could dominate 2023 is if Djokovic is still banned, Nadal is really injured, Zverev is out, and Medvedev still in a bit of a slump.

 

[The Fedfather]

Alcaraz's serve and cobsistency from the baseline are not at the level that will allow him to dominate almost the entire season the way Federer did. It's likely he'll have plenty of those UEs galore days and, with servebotting not available, it could lead to somewhat random losses and one too many taxing matches.

But then Carlos' top level is incredible already, and as he is improving very quickly it'll be surprising if he doesn't take at least one Slam next year.

 

[Deleted member 758560]

 

[Nadal_Django]

Carlos is the new Hewitt, old wine in new bottle, a transition era champ, both of them have tiny in common.

I thought that short and tiny type of tennis players are stuff of the woolpants vintage era, but voila, here we are.

 

[Deleted member 758560]

Carlos is the new Hewitt, old wine in new bottle, a transition era champ, both of them have tiny in common.

if he;s just a puppet (or transitional) as u said, so who is that dark horse that will become unstoppable force next

 

[FEDERERNADAL13]

I echo the “like Pete but more successful” option — I think he could get a couple slams in the next couple of years, but it’s hard to predict a 2004-2007 esque run. Certainly possible, though!

 

[socallefty]

Neither. He will probably win his 2nd Slam next year and maybe one the year after before he starts possibly winning multiple Slams a year. The problem for him is that he still has Djokovic and Nadal to contend with at least for a couple of years and so there is no chance to dominate like Federer.

 

[Kralingen]

It kills me how TTW is the only place on the planet that is this low on Alcaraz and thinks he’s all hype

 

[metsman]

It will be a Ferrer 2007 USO moment if Ferrer had hypothetically gotten Canas in the SF and Robredo in the F.

 

[sometennisdot]

He lost his first match in Davis Cup following the trophy, and just lost in straights to Goffin, so I don't think he is a multiple Grand Slam winner yet. Let's see, RG 2023 is his most likely chance for 2023 I'd see

 

[BauerAlmeida]

Carlos is the new Hewitt, old wine in new bottle, a transition era champ, both of them have tiny in common.

Alcaraz is not "tiny" by any means.

 

[ibbi]

Somewhere between the two would be my guess. Will be interesting to see how he handles the pressure. He took a little bit of time to adjust to being favourite in matches as this year went along. Being slam champ and number 1 is a whole new thing.

Whether his issues were more physical or mental is anyones guess, but Medvedev struggled with it, and he's much older and more experienced than Alcaraz.

 

[Sudacafan]

I can’t tell.

 

[MurraysMetalHip]

It’s an Alcaraz at USO 2022 moment.

 

[Deleted member 758560]

I can’t tell.

then say

 

[Sudacafan]

then say

Just said I can‘t.

 

[Tennfan123]

Pete. For obvious reasons.

 

[slipgrip93]

It kills me how TTW is the only place on the planet that is this low on Alcaraz and thinks he’s all hype

He's actually taller than Agassi for that matter. Although he could use a bigger serve eventually.

I'm guessing he could do a bit better than Pete. Pete at that age still had a challenge of gauging how he would do and improve against his fellow bolletierri classmates i.e. Chang, Courier, Agassi, etc. along with Becker and Edberg in their mid-primes. I'm glad Alcaraz doesn't seem that stuck on social media (&ttw) for now too.