Right now tennis tv is airing the Alcaraz Hurkacz Toronto final where it is apparent how bad Alcaraz’s mental strength used to be. To combat this, he has to be dominant with his skill. Alcaraz has shown on the biggest stages how well he can dominate the competition. He just doesn’t always do it, probably due to mental errors and nerves. But the level he can play at makes him a legend because it is more than capable of getting him 30 slams. But that’s not the only thing, the fact that Alcaraz had a close match with Hurkacz a while back is relevant enough to show on tv also makes Alcaraz a legend because it is proof he was good enough to take up space in the tennis history timeline, much like emerging Federer I would guess.
Alcaraz already a tennis legend
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Odd post but okay, I agree with some of it. Particularly that Alcaraz is already a Tennis legend and would certainly end up a tier-1 name should everything go well.
30 slams is inhuman. Unless proven otherwise, I'm not buying these predictions.
For him, the immediate goal is to be clear of the Agassi tier.
30 slams is inhuman. Unless proven otherwise, I'm not buying these predictions.
For him, the immediate goal is to be clear of the Agassi tier.
KingCarlitos
Hall of Fame
Whether or not he capitalises on slam success in his 20s, Whether he can adapt his game and maintain dominance in his 30s will determine his status at the end of his career. I don’t like to make wild predictions, particularly about future slam winners but let’s be honest, If Alcaraz doesn’t have at least 8 slams by his retirement he will be seen as a failure. (And some would see it as a disappointment If he doesn’t reach GOAThood)
Kid has 4 in his first 13 appearances. I truly don't see a possibility other than possibilities of the mathematical kind of him not getting 4 more within at least the next 13 slams.
With Raz though, as ambitious as he may be, I have a feeling he may not even crave longevity let alone excell into his 30s. But what do I know?
KingCarlitos
Hall of Fame
Raz should 100% win 4 more slams but hey, what if he gets stabbed like Seles or a nuclear holocaust or some godlike GOAT teen appears and he loses motivation, There was a quote that put it well,
”I never assume that’s all, life is what happens while your busy making other plans”
Also Raz 100% craves GOAThood, the kid already has talked about his desire to be the best player in history.
NYTennisfan
Hall of Fame
Yeah, when people project Alcaraz to break slam records that's when he gets overrated. That takes longevity, health, ability to continuously adapt ones' game and luck quite frankly.
The goal should be one slam at a time obviously but a merely double digit slams career would be a huge accomplishment and place him in an arguably top 5 tier and I only say that as a realistic goal because he's reached 4 already at 21, I would never place that expectation on an up and comer. Anything more than that is gravy.
Lleytonstation
Talk Tennis Guru
Interesting point. Will be the most memorable player of anyone born after 1990.
We might forget about the rest pretty easily.
KingCarlitos
Hall of Fame
Ain’t nobody forgetting Med and his octopus technique, That **** burned into my brain.
I don't disagree. As a fan, every new title is a win personally. I love watching him play Tennis today. Tomorrow who knows who's gonna be alive?
Here's another quote: thou shalt neither live in the past nor the future for it is when the present dies a death with none to mourn.
(No ChatGPT didn't make this up, I did).
Did you send any death threats to Med before the D day happened?
KingCarlitos
Hall of Fame
Aight, gonna pretend I can understand your Shakespearean words.
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I don't even think legit fans claim that nonsense. You don't clearly and neither do I.
Still more cogent than whatever th OP is.
KingCarlitos
Hall of Fame
Yeah, I was wondering If he could translate the OP into English before posting it.
Lleytonstation
Talk Tennis Guru
In the sense of relevancy yes they will. However he might be remembered for breaking the cygs so maybe just him.
KingCarlitos
Hall of Fame
His elegant technique has been irreversibly tattooed on the brains of all those who watch him, His legacy will be left In the mind of mortal men for years even after Med himself has departed the physical realm.
KingCarlitos
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And tbh I consider him having a greater impact on Tennis than Hewitt who faded younger.
Lleytonstation
Talk Tennis Guru
KingCarlitos
Hall of Fame
Thiem was great and glad he won a slam but It was physically painful to watch him play after obtaining that wrist injury.
He also was the great white choke in that AO 2020 F, He wasn’t as impactful or for as long as Med, although much more respectful.
Thiem was still a cut above his peers. Shame what happened to him.
As a Roger stan who hunted for the next great one-hander, that Thiem faded before Tsitsipas hurts me a little.
KingCarlitos
Hall of Fame
I know, Thiem was a very respectful and likeable player, and with an actual decent one hander, Tsitsipas brought disgrace upon his forebackhandbearers, Glad that Tsitsipas is falling down the rankings, He needs to put his foot on the brakes and climb back to where he was or he will fade out, He is meant to be in his prime years after all.
slipgrip93
Professional
I would agree Alcaraz already qualifies for being an ATG in the current generations. He has crazy signature shots and speed. An improved serve
, getting more scary with it. Already winning wimbledon twice, matching Nadal's career wimbledon record this young, and younger than other past ATG's on their first wimbledon record, on a surface that intially wasn't predicted to be better for him. But hard to project, career long, because anything could happen. Then seeing if Sinner steps it up to be more of a rivalry in the next ten years.
, getting more scary with it. Already winning wimbledon twice, matching Nadal's career wimbledon record this young, and younger than other past ATG's on their first wimbledon record, on a surface that intially wasn't predicted to be better for him. But hard to project, career long, because anything could happen. Then seeing if Sinner steps it up to be more of a rivalry in the next ten years.
Lleytonstation
Talk Tennis Guru
The sad part is he never got that French. I will always remember that. Plus his one win was one of the worst slams I have ever seen and the final was a disaster that he should not even had won.
But sports is cruel.
KingCarlitos
Hall of Fame
People predicting grass to be his worst surface only did so because he is Espanish and not because they took his game style into account.
KingCarlitos
Hall of Fame
French was a foregone loss for all players during those years, I’m sure Thiem (and everyone else Barr Djokovic) watching Nadal on TV came to terms with the fact that they would never win French while in the womb lol.
NYTennisfan
Hall of Fame
Likely not but you know there's some fanboys out there that elevate their favorite player to god status no matter what any reason gets presented to them.
But, yeah, most reasonable Alcaraz fans are pretty measured with their expectations of him if not overly critical.
Ew I'll just remember him for his epic duels with Rafole instead of Pandemic Open.
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Oh there are plenty on Twitter. I just don't know of any here.
KingCarlitos
Hall of Fame
You got that right!
Lleytonstation
Talk Tennis Guru
I think thiem thought he was going to do it.
KingCarlitos
Hall of Fame
So did I when I was young, I‘m sure Thiem after the devastation wore off appreciated the excellent career he had/has and the money piles he is sitting on, At least he is not inciting physical pain in tennis viewers anymore.
KantenKlaar
Hall of Fame
Totally agree.
tennis_pro
Bionic Poster
He's a Slam or 2 away from ATG status and he's barely 21.
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junior74
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nolefam_2024
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