Alcaraz has the potential to win 30+ slams

[geromino]

The only thing that stopped the big 3 from winning 30+ slams was each other, and Alcaraz has proven himself to be a big 3 level talent. For Alcaraz to achieve this, two factors need to be satisfied:
1. Alcaraz can maintain good health, longevity, and motivation.
2. GOAT level competition will not emerge in the next 5-10 years. I do not expect Rune will reach this level.

If the above are satisfied, Alcaraz has the potential to obliterate every important record in tennis, including total slams, weeks #1, and maybe even 14 victories at a slam.

 

[Backspin1183]

And 500 weeks at #1.

 

[ojo rojo]

Why are tennis fans so greedy? Can't we just enjoy a new young guy having success on the biggest stages without demanding he wins everything and dominates for 10 years, otherwise he's a mug?

 

[mahatma]

Nopes.

 

[tennis_pro]

- courtesy of TTW

 

[geromino]

Why are tennis fans so greedy? Can't we just enjoy a new young guy having success on the biggest stages without demanding he wins everything and dominates for 10 years, otherwise he's a mug?

The possibility of Alcaraz to reach previously unfathomable numbers if he does not face GOAT-level competition or serious injuries cannot be ignored.

 

[ojo rojo]

The possibility of Alcaraz to reach previously unfathomable numbers if he does not face GOAT-level competition or serious injuries cannot be ignored.

I'm proof that indeed it can. You carry on tho.. whatever floats your boat

 

[Enceladus]

Winning 10, 20 grandslams, let alone 30, is no fun at any time. People are deluding themselves into thinking it's going to be a toy and making a threads about it. You completely ignore the hard work that goes into winning a Grand Slam title and you underestimate the burnout factor.

 

[Hood_Man]

And 500 weeks at #1.

1000!!!

 

[Hood_Man]

Why are tennis fans so greedy? Can't we just enjoy a new young guy having success on the biggest stages without demanding he wins everything and dominates for 10 years, otherwise he's a mug?

We're desperate.

 

[jimjam]

Personally I can see Alcaraz reaching a peak tennis level (higher than big 3 even potentially), but then getting bored causing him to stagnate or move on from the sport.

Unlike other greats he seems to enjoy the game itself more than winning, as can be seen from the smiles after losing a great point.

So I'm with @ojo rojo on this one. I don't care how many slams he wins and will just enjoy watching his tennis.

 

[Poisoned Slice]

Why are tennis fans so greedy? Can't we just enjoy a new young guy having success on the biggest stages without demanding he wins everything and dominates for 10 years, otherwise he's a mug?

 

[SonnyT]

Yes, Carlos has the potential. I predict he will lose his current explosiveness.

 

[Djokovic_is_the_best#1]

This is very bold to say and he’s very far from this. However, I can see him doing a CYGS that the big 3 didn’t do.

 

[geromino]

Yes, Carlos has the potential. I predict he will lose his current explosiveness.

Even if he loses explosiveness, he has the tools and talent to adapt.

 

[DSH]

Winning 10, 20 grandslams, let alone 30, is no fun at any time. People are deluding themselves into thinking it's going to be a toy and making a threads about it. You completely ignore the hard work that goes into winning a Grand Slam title and you underestimate the burnout factor.

Besides that if he keeps winning so many tournaments, soon he could have so much money that he could lead a life, let's say, not as methodical as the Big 3.
Let's hope he doesn't lose his way, the boy wonder.

 

[Thundergod]

Besides that if he keeps winning so many tournaments, soon he could have so much money that he could lead a life, let's say, not as methodical as the Big 3.
Let's hope he doesn't lose his way, the boy wonder.

Safin's gonna take him under his wing and show him how it's done.

 

[DSH]

Safin's gonna take him under his wing and show him how it's done.

 

[Bud]

The only thing that stopped the big 3 from winning 30+ slams was each other, and Alcaraz has proven himself to be a big 3 level talent. For Alcaraz to achieve this, two factors need to be satisfied:
1. Alcaraz can maintain good health, longevity, and motivation.
2. GOAT level competition will not emerge in the next 5-10 years. I do not expect Rune will reach this level.

If the above are satisfied, Alcaraz has the potential to obliterate every important record in tennis, including total slams, weeks #1, and maybe even 14 victories at a slam.

I don't think you understand the difficulty of winning 30+ slams. Life and injuries happen. These players aren't machines.

The biggest advantage is he's not playing against 3 other all time greats plus another couple second tier greats in Murray and Wawrinka. The current era is becoming weak as Djokovic steadily declines.

Avoiding injuries, he'll likely rack up many slams within the next 3-5+ years until another exemplary talent shows up.

 

[chjtennis]

To win 30+ slams, he will need some luck. If he gets weak competition, of course, that will be more than possible.

 

[reaper]

Looking at Djokovic's record 30 slams is plausible for someone. No slams for 3 years after his first. A relatively low slam count during what should have been his peak years after 2012. A low French Open count due to Nadal's dominance at the FO. Some slams left on the table late career due to his stance on the Covid vaccine and hitting the ball into the line judge. Djokovic has the record but could have had several more,..so maybe someone will one day get 30.

 

[Kozzy]

Let's hope he gets some real competition - otherwise the ATP will be extremely boring. The big 3 era has already been kind of boring.

 

[InsideOut900]

Alcaraz has proven himself to be a big 3 level talent.

Maybe if tennis started like 3 years ago, lol

 

[BauerAlmeida]

The Big 3 have really skewed the perception of people about how hard it is to win slams.

For decades only Borg and Sampras had only managed to reach double digits. Guys like Connors, Mac, Lendl or Agassi didn't. Someone like Murray only won 3, Safin only won 2, del Potro only won one.

Yeah, Alcaraz is great, but 30 is a ridiculous number. It's 50% more than what Federer won, for instance. He's not unbeatable. He lost to Zverev at RG last year, to Sinner at Wimbledon. They can beat him again. Rune can beat him. Djokovic can still get a win or two before retiring like he did at RG and almost does at Wimbledon. New players will rise. He will also have poor seasons/tournaments and injuries.

I predict double digits for him.

 

[Oval_Solid]

the calendar slam will be called an alcaraz
if someone wins 1 slam it will be called a quarter alcaraz plus the year
2 slams will be half alcaraz etc
example: bob had a quarter alcaraz in year 2045
the open tennis era will be divided between 2 eras pre-alcaraz and post-alcaraz
post-era: a player wont be mentioned in the goat debate unless they have at least a calendar slam or 1 alcaraz

 

[Lleytonstation]

Why he won't :

Injuries and motivation

If he had no competition he will never get closer to 20. The big 3 needed each other to push their selves.

Without another atg he will become burnt out.

 

[Benf15harp]

It’s definitely possible considering after what’s left of Nadal/ Novak and MAYBE rune/sinner…..there’s absolutely no one coming down the pike to challenge the little fella. The current top 100 or so is likely the worst I’ve ever seen.
barring any health issues, after next season he should just be on cruise control for the next 10 years+

 

[Spencer Gore]

Tomorrow is promised to no man.

 

[toth]

I dont think there will be again 15 years without new young GOAT level players who can compete with Alcaraz

 

[NeutralFan]

Why he won't :

Injuries and motivation

If he had no competition he will never get closer to 20. The big 3 needed each other to push their selves.

Without another atg he will become burnt out.

If he's good enough he will have the slam record and it will be easy without any rival. Slam record alone is a big motivating factor.

 

[leodevlin]

You understand that 81 year old Margaret Court is still the record holder , right ?

 

[Lleytonstation]

If he's good enough he will have the slam record and it will be easy without any rival. Slam record alone is a big motivating factor.

Zero chance. He is not winning 24 slams. Period.

Noone to push him.

 

[NeutralFan]

Zero chance. He is not winning 24 slams. Period.

Noone to push him.

If he's that talented then he will win. Remember how Fed was motivated to break Pete's record even before Rafa became a competition on all surfaces? He was marching like wind without getting bored or burned.

 

[jackson vile]

Why not 100?

 

[DSH]

This is very bold to say and he’s very far from this. However, I can see him doing a CYGS that the big 3 didn’t do.

From Rod Laver to Carlos Alcaraz, two giants to win the Grand Slam.

 

[Lleytonstation]

If he's that talented then he will win. Remember how Fed was motivated to break Pete's record even before Rafa became a competition on all surfaces? He was marching like wind without getting bored or burned.

That was 14, not 24. He also would have been done at that point without fed and Rafa.

He would have retired a long time ago.

Plus, his style is injury prone.

 

[Holmes]

Tomorrow is promised to no man.

True. The cruelty of fate can be sad. Roddick, Hewitt, Safin and Federer were supposed to be the new generation of greats leading the game into a new era but instead were all relegated to poodles of Federer, who himself was brought to heel within a few short years of topping the tennis world, ending as third to Nole and Nadal.

At least they all won a slam and spent a bit of time as #1. That in itself is more than 99% ever accomplished.

 

[kkm]

He’s going to win 65 majors.

 

[Sampras-Bruguera 1993]

 

[TheNachoMan]

From Rod Laver to Carlos Alcaraz, two giants to win the Grand Slam.

Everyone forgets Don Budge.

 

[Rina]

Are you out of your mind? 30? He won 2, which is great for his age. How many things did you win? Focus on yourself and stop posting here. Outdoors is great for people's serotonin levels.

 

[DSH]

Everyone forgets Don Budge.

Just talking about the Open Era.

 

[ark_28]

It all depends on where Tommy Paul is on the draw..

 

[LaVie en Rose]

I remember ( even so they pretend otherwise it's all written down) fedal fans were crying before W , Djokovic will win 30.

 

[socallefty]

He has to prove that he is as disciplined about avoiding temptations on the road and working on his game constantly along with withstanding the pressure of being the #1 player in the world that everyone is gunning for before I am ready to say he will win even double-digit Slams. Plus he has a heavy upper body that can lead to lower body injuries unlike less-muscled players like Federer and Djokovic. He certainly has the talent to dominate the game for several years on all surfaces, but talent alone doesn’t bring achievements at the GOAT-level.

 

[nolefam_2024]

Rafa had potential to win 5+ Wimbledons yet he never won another Wimbledon past 2010. Don't ever tell me the potential.

Let's appreciate this young adult and hope he keeps up. Otherwise he will be in the same dustbin as your other non goats now on ttw.

 

[CosmosMpower]

He can’t even beat Tommy Paul two years in a row in a M1000

 

[Eureka]

It all depends on where Tommy Paul is on the draw..

Loooool! Too good.

I am an Alcaraz fan - I like the boy & his game enormously, but also like some of the other youngsters - including Rune / Sinner. At this stage, it would be foolish in the extreme to predict the number of slams any of the current contenders will win.

What interests me is how CA & his rivals will navigate their respective paths ahead and develop as they do so.

 

[nolefam_2024]

As people on this board already have seen, we have seen two full years from Alcaraz. He has beaten Djokovic in Wimbledon finals and has won 5 masters titles. Those are his peaks.

He has not struggled vs next next gen of Medvedev Tsitsipas and Zverev ( I consider Medvedev loss an anamoly).

But he has also lost a lot of lead he had over big 3 at similar age. This year people expected multi slam year for Alcaraz and retaining the number 1 spot. Both these things did not happen. In fact Nadal and Djokovic at similar age might be ahead (at the very least Nadal is ahead) or very close.

He has found a rival in Jannik Sinner now who has beaten him on equal footing. The more damaging loss than Medvedev I think was to Dimitrov, the next gen. I think many people lost confidence on him post this match.

I think Alcaraz currently is the only player who can break slams and masters records since he is good at age 19/20. But he is losing age vs Rafole already it seems. Of course he is still good as them but Nadal was already the god of clay and Djokovic was having very high performances vs fedal while Raz doesn't have same competition.

 

[nolefam_2024]

In the 60 min interview, Djokovic said the tennis careers post 2000s will be short due to rigorous schedule and injuries. Players were retiring by the age 30/32.

But racket revolution is steady in past 20 years. They gave the older guys more power to compete vs new blood but also gave the older guys an advantage because time spent honing tennis skills. I am not sure what medical changes happened in tennis in last 20 years that made these players super fit. But it must be the physios and dietitians they keep along for the ride.

Right now 30 look pretty good in tennis. Djokovic is only over 30 player in top 20. But between 21 to 100 there are a ton of players over age 30. Nadal Wawrinka were in top 10 for a long part of their 30s. If not for injury issues Murray would probably be here easily.

I think the landscape is changed for foreseeable future. Alcaraz Sinner Rune are all pretty young. I don't think they are going to retire until age 35 themselves which means what records are set by Federer and Djokovic are all beatable.