Alcaraz is carrying the tour
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Rosstour
G.O.A.T.
How do you figure he's better than Carlos when Carlos has won more and is younger not to mention went 3-0 against him during Sinner's best year
nolefam_2024
Bionic Poster
Carlos is very close to him yes. Both are great.
nolefam_2024
Bionic Poster
Exactly. Without the heavyweight champion , the tour will die. He carries it.
Winner Sinner
Professional
When you move from judging the only thing that matters (i.e. the verdict of the field) to marginal issues such as the title of the thread or the discussion about who exudes the most aura, it means that as far as the only thing that matters (the verdict of the field) the arguments in favor of Alcaraz begin to run out if the counterpart is Sinner.
Tennfan123
Legend
Gasquet had the aura of a pigeon feasting on thrown out Taco Bell behind a dumpster.
still, I was a fan.
still, I was a fan.
nolefam_2024
Bionic Poster
He is carrying nothing. Sinner has won 7 titles already. And maybe will win 8th by end of the year plus Davis cup.
Nole carried tennis till 2023. He won 7 last year. Including almost all 4 slams.
Raz is flashy come and go player.
Aussie Darcy
Bionic Poster
I guess Alcaraz doesn’t have access to them good doping drugs like Sinner I guess. How many failed doping tests was it for Sinner again? 1? 2? 3? No announcement til several months later too.
nolefam_2024
Bionic Poster
No player announces early on so be very impartial here.I guess Alcaraz doesn’t have access to them good doping drugs like Sinner I guess. How many failed doping tests was it for Sinner again? 1? 2? 3? No announcement til several months later too.
Also hey only Sinner gets access to sickness being a legitimate precursor to a big tournament loss.I guess Alcaraz doesn’t have access to them good doping drugs like Sinner I guess. How many failed doping tests was it for Sinner again? 1? 2? 3? No announcement til several months later too.
travlerajm
Talk Tennis Guru
Sinner’s best year is probably next year… unless the tennis gods decide to punish him.
Winner Sinner
Professional
LolI guess Alcaraz doesn’t have access to them good doping drugs like Sinner I guess. How many failed doping tests was it for Sinner again? 1? 2? 3? No announcement til several months later too.
Your resentment towards Sinner is my strength.
You are so obsessed with the solidity of the Sinner player that;
1) You put it in the middle by trying to deny it even when a user was talking about something completely different.
2) The only thing you have left to hold onto between now and the next 15 years will always be those two positivities that you can exploit at will, filling your mouth with inaccuracies to give birth to certain fantasies, given that as far as the tennis played is concerned, the arguments for those like you intent on denigrating Sinner are increasingly scarce.
I'm sorry, the Sinner monster from the Beijing 2023 tournament is out of the bottle and after subsequently beating Djokovic in the Davis Cup by canceling 3 match points, now you can't close that monster again, but it will always be there hovering in your subconscious.
FreeJannik
New User
Now he's playing with the weight of the possible incoming ban on his head... when he will be able to play mentally free we will see his real level... wich may be skyhigh. Anyway Alcaraz is a fantastic player too and i hope their rivalry will carry on the tour for the years to come.
nolefam_2024
Bionic Poster
He won't get banned for long if he even gets. He is carrying the sport. You can't ban him.
TheGoldenEra1990’s
Hall of Fame
If Sinner is suspended the tour is essentially dead unless someone steps up to take his place. Sorry but Carlos just isn’t consistent enough now. He may be only dominated for half a season of that. That means someone else has to step up and become a superstar.
Racquet_smash
Semi-Pro
Don't find much difference between Sinner and Alcaraz as far as entertainment goes. One plays like a machine, the other is basically a ball basher.
nolefam_2024
Bionic Poster
Carlos year end rankings
2022 - number 1 (sham ranking by COVID)
2023 - number 2
2024 - number 3
2025????
2022 - number 1 (sham ranking by COVID)
2023 - number 2
2024 - number 3
2025????
hoodjem
G.O.A.T.
Berdych had “aura”? He seemed to have a pretty girlfriend.
Davydenko had “aura”? He did have perseverance.
Tsonga certainly had personality.
Loved Gasquet’s backhand.
But if Gasquet had “insane aura,” then it certainly does not equate to winning.
Racquet_smash
Semi-Pro
Yeah out of all of these the only exciting one was only Tsonga who could come up with insane and creative stuff at any point of the match. But the others were mostly good players and that's it.
nolefam_2024
Bionic Poster
Alcaraz has been 6-1 and 6-0d 6 times already this year , 25 times in his whole career
Sinner is embarrassed 25 times as well but has 2 more years of career.
Rafael Nadal 70 times in much longer career.
GOAT just 55 times in more matches played
Roger Federer just 57 times in even more matches played
If Raz doesn't stop carrying the sport the way he has been, he would soon top the list among these 6 Raz fans.
Sinner is embarrassed 25 times as well but has 2 more years of career.
Rafael Nadal 70 times in much longer career.
GOAT just 55 times in more matches played
Roger Federer just 57 times in even more matches played
If Raz doesn't stop carrying the sport the way he has been, he would soon top the list among these 6 Raz fans.
JoshDragon
Hall of Fame
Yep. He's one of the few that are worth watching. Pro tennis pretty much sucks today. Or maybe I just got spoiled by the Big 3.Nadal retiring. Djokovic close to retiring. That’s basically the two GOATs gone right there. There’s too much drama and controversy with Sinner’s doping and Zverev’s domestic violence cases. Sinner in general is just an aura-less carrot anyways.
Medvedev doesn’t inspire anyone and neither does the rest of the top 10. Just a bunch of names. Guys like Berdych, Tsonga, Davydenko, Gasquet had insane aura. Now we’ve got “Alex de Minaur”. I guess Dimitrov is still around…
Alcaraz is the last hope for the tour going forward. Kid is good and has incredible aura. Time to get behind him.
TearTheRoofOff
G.O.A.T.
Alcaraz is carrying the tour, and Ruud is carrying Alcaraz.
Well, I agree with some things, but have to disagree on others.
Of course Nadal is a huge loss and Djokovic WOULD be the next one. However, who knows if he's really THAT close to retirement.
Of course the Sinner doping case is bad for tennis, but other than that I don't see why he should have less an aura than Alcaraz. They are both great players, each in his way. If excessive fistpumping would be needed to create an aura, then Borg, Sampras and Federer would also never have created an aura. "Fire" AND "Ice", both creates an aura.
I also don't see how Berdych, Tsonga, Davydenko and Gasquet had an "insane aura". On the contrary, I would much rather bet on Medvedev challenging Sinner/Alcaraz than the guys you mentioned challenging the Big 3. Of course that's also because the Big 3 were better, but my point is, there was not much of an "aura" around a challenge from those guys back then.
And the Zverev case is over, like it or not. In real life nobody ever talked about it anyway. Not even my mother cared about it, and she's a big sports fan and frequently shows her dislike of Zverev. In my tennis club it was a non-topic either.
messiahrobins
Legend
Been saying that since 2022. Kept telling Rafa fans on social media that Carlos is the guy take the mantle from Rafa for the next decade just as Rafa took it from Roger and Roger from Pete.Nadal retiring. Djokovic close to retiring. That’s basically the two GOATs gone right there. There’s too much drama and controversy with Sinner’s doping and Zverev’s domestic violence cases. Sinner in general is just an aura-less carrot anyways.
Medvedev doesn’t inspire anyone and neither does the rest of the top 10. Just a bunch of names. Guys like Berdych, Tsonga, Davydenko, Gasquet had insane aura. Now we’ve got “Alex de Minaur”. I guess Dimitrov is still around…
Alcaraz is the last hope for the tour going forward. Kid is good and has incredible aura. Time to get behind him.
Alcaraz is box office. Dont know why he bothers with the indoor season, he hates indoor tennis, always has since a kid.
nolefam_2024
Bionic Poster
DSH
Talk Tennis Guru
Aabye5
G.O.A.T.
It's a shared burden
Lleytonstation
Talk Tennis Guru
Is Carlos the shepherd still playing tennis?
StefanosRespecter
Rookie
He is number 1.
Has 3,500 more points than Raz.
More consistent overall.
70-5.
H2H is not a good metric. Pretty sure Fritz has more wins vs Zverev, would you say Fritz is better?
Rosstour
G.O.A.T.
At this point, maybe he is?
H2H not good metric? How do you feel about 24-16, then?
Aabye5
G.O.A.T.
nolefam_2024
Bionic Poster
Another win for sinner in his best year on the tour. Alcaraz couldn't carry his country from qf.
While sinner carried back to back Davis cup wins. Including decider doubles last year in semis.
While sinner carried back to back Davis cup wins. Including decider doubles last year in semis.
Sport
G.O.A.T.
In all fairness, Italy possesses a better tennis team in 2024 than Spain.
I mean, Sinner + Berrettini + Musetti >>>>> Alcaraz + virtually retired Nadal.
nolefam_2024
Bionic Poster
Alcaraz is special player.
Yes Davis cup is not individual achievement at all. Italy has a strong team, would be very strong if Berrettini becomes fit.
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