Whether it's easy or difficult makes no difference. The point is that it doesn't matter on its own.
Alcaraz leads Sinner on HC 5-2
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roysid
Legend
Its like Rafa and Fed in early days. Fed is winning everything non-clay but he still loses to Rafa more often than not. While Rafa wasnt consistent on hc at all, he was effective against Fed.
Miami 04, Dubai 06 and AO 09.
While Raz won IW and Beijing match last year , Sinner won everything else on HC from AO 24 to AO 25. So thats why this peeception. It was not there in 22 and 23.
And yes Sinner won their six kings slam match also.
Miami 04, Dubai 06 and AO 09.
While Raz won IW and Beijing match last year , Sinner won everything else on HC from AO 24 to AO 25. So thats why this peeception. It was not there in 22 and 23.
And yes Sinner won their six kings slam match also.
nolefam_2024
Bionic Poster
Yes raz is total mug on hc according to some. I can see that.
Eren
Professional
Below is a ChatGPT excerpt. Sinner needs to f-ck up only once to equal Fed.
"In the 2022 US Open quarter-final between Alcaraz and Sinner, Jannik Sinner did hold a match point.
In the fourth set, Sinner was serving at 5–4 having ADV and stood on the cusp of victory. He had a match point, but Alcaraz broke his serve, forced a decider, and eventually won the match 6‑3, 6‑7, 6‑7, 7‑5, 6‑3 ."
KennyoFatoBoiyo
Semi-Pro
Exactly thanks for confirming Carlos Alcaraz won the match beating the invincible hard court maestro Jannik Sinner.
nolefam_2024
Bionic Poster
Since sinner came back on the tour, alcaraz has now won rome rg and queens. Total of 4500 pts.
We should not make sinner into an immortal monster. Even on HC raz leads 5-2.
They can both beat each other tbh on all courts.
We should not make sinner into an immortal monster. Even on HC raz leads 5-2.
They can both beat each other tbh on all courts.
TheGoldenEra1990’s
Hall of Fame
It’s a bad look for sinner no doubt. If anything he should control is own backyard on hards. Carlos isn’t even very good on hards. Thats the type of stuff that kills sinner right now
Djokovic_is_the_best#1
Bionic Poster
True but would you trust sinner to beat alcaraz in the us open final. It might be on hard courts but the mental edge alcaraz has and it being a final would be tough for sinner to overcome.
Pheasant
Legend
Bad matchups happen, which can make the sport quite interesting. IIRC, Nadal had a 9-6 lead on hard courts over Federer from 2004-2013, yet Fed led 9-3 in hard court slams. Davydenko led 6-1 over Nadal on hard courts, which includes 4-0 after Nadal already had a hard court slam title to his name.
Since the beginning of 2024, Sinner is:
0-2, 0.00 vs Alcaraz on hard courts.
60-1, .984 vs everybody else on hard courts, which includes a blistering DR of 1.49. This includes winning all 4 of the biggest hard court events(3 slams + ATP finals).
Sinner’s run of 60-3, .952 on hard courts is up there with the best in history.
From the 2003 WTF to 2007 Dubai, Fed was:
2-2, .500 vs Nadal on hard courts
170-5, .971 vs everybody else with a DR of 1.44. This includes winning all three WTF that were held on hard courts(2005 was held on carpet) and it includes winning 6 out of the 7 hard court slams. That makes 9 out of 10 wins on the 5 biggest hard court events.
Most consecutive hard court titles at the biggest events(slams + WTF)
Federer 6
Djoker 5
Sinner 4(active streak)
Sinner has become a stone-cold killer on hard courts since 2024.
Since the beginning of 2024, Sinner is:
0-2, 0.00 vs Alcaraz on hard courts.
60-1, .984 vs everybody else on hard courts, which includes a blistering DR of 1.49. This includes winning all 4 of the biggest hard court events(3 slams + ATP finals).
Sinner’s run of 60-3, .952 on hard courts is up there with the best in history.
From the 2003 WTF to 2007 Dubai, Fed was:
2-2, .500 vs Nadal on hard courts
170-5, .971 vs everybody else with a DR of 1.44. This includes winning all three WTF that were held on hard courts(2005 was held on carpet) and it includes winning 6 out of the 7 hard court slams. That makes 9 out of 10 wins on the 5 biggest hard court events.
Most consecutive hard court titles at the biggest events(slams + WTF)
Federer 6
Djoker 5
Sinner 4(active streak)
Sinner has become a stone-cold killer on hard courts since 2024.
nolefam_2024
Bionic Poster
Interestingly we can't say raz is bad matchup for sinner. What raz does will hurt almost anyone , unlike davydenko vs nadal. Isn't it.
The Blond Blur
G.O.A.T.
I didn’t remember posting in this thread and after it was bumped months later I was surprised I did…After reading my OP back with the add context of being tagged first I just lol
TheGoldenEra1990’s
Hall of Fame
Can't trust Sinner against Alcaraz for sure. But we should be trust him to get the job done on hards if nothing else as hes a much better HC player than Carlos overall. I can see Carlos owning him on clay. (Maybe grass). But not hards. Sinner should own hards for a long time because outside of grandaddy Djoker, there really is no one LOL
M4tchP0int
Rookie
I can see Carlos owning Sinner like Nadal was owning Federer outside Indoors HC (WTF+Basel+Paris Masters). Maybe Sinner will dominate again Carlos on HC and grass once Alcaraz will reach 30yo and will lose his footspeed exactly like Rafa. Losing a step prevented Rafa to win against Novak on HC since 2013 and against Federer since 2015.
The upper part of the body declined for Federer (His forehand). It was the lower part of the body for Rafa but his forehand didn't decline. For novak is was neither the upper/lower part it was his overall stamina and being out of breath atfer sudden and brutal rallies sometimes. I don't know how the decline will affect sinner specifically
nighthawkrr
Semi-Pro
I agree I would not bet the farm on either as I would Nadal at RG or Novak at AO back in the day. They are just a perfect matchup for drama.
I hate to tell you this, but Sinner hasn't beat Alcaraz since '23!
Aabye5
Talk Tennis Guru
True, but their last clay match should make Carlitos fans a bit nervous.
Djokovic_is_the_best#1
Bionic Poster
I’m not sure. That last match could scar sinner a bit.
roysid
Legend
I am not saying anything different. Sinner won against everyone from 2024 onwards but not alcaraz.
Unless the six kings tournament is comsidered
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