Alcaraz needs a new coach.

[Break To Win]

I feel like the partnership with Ferrero has reached its peak. There is no more way to help him. I think Carlitos needs more variation, and when I say variation, I mean slice, to take weight off the ball against tennis players like Zverev and Medvedev. I think that on fast courts with low bounce, as is the case with Turin, he feels lost, and doesn't find a plan to execute it. Today it was to vary between slices and drop-shots. I don't think Ferrero will contribute much more to this partnership. I don't have a name in mind, but if anyone does, post whatever you're thinking of in the post.

 

[Razer]

He needs Federer as his coach.

 

[InsuranceMan]

You guys are clueless

 

[Djokovic_is_the_best#1]

Lol. Hyperbole overload. He’s had a bit of a drop off at his worst part of the season. He will be fine next year after a rest. Needs to improve the serve which I’m sure they will work on.

 

[Hitman]

LOL - No.

 

[Milanez82]

Zverev hit a few out of this world passing shots and got lucky on bp, the ball just landed on the line

And he served big when under pressure.

It was really a match where couple of points decided.

 

[BeatlesFan]

You guys are clueless

Understatement of the decade.

Carlos has won 2 slams at age 20 and became the youngest ever #1. But on TTW he sucks, is an untalented mug and only wins events due to a lot of "luck." Now he needs to fire his coach that helped elevate him to such lofty heights.

 

[Born_to_slice]

Lol. Hyperbole overload. He’s had a bit of a drop off at his worst part of the season. He will be fine next year after a rest. Needs to improve the serve which I’m sure they will work on.

His serve is already very good. He'll be scary if he improves it.

 

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[Mark-Touch]

Big Roger could teach Tiny Carlos some grass tricks especially useful in Wimbledon matches against Djokovic.

Right.
Like what strategies to employ at 40-15 championship points.

 

[dr. godmode]

With Patrick on board Alcy would already have won the calendar slam. Best coach ever + best player ever = goat combo. Idk why Patrick is wasting his time with plebs like Rune and Halep when he could be pushing Alcy to new heights of PED.

 

[Mark-Touch]

I feel like the partnership with Ferrero has reached its peak. There is no more way to help him. I think Carlitos needs more variation, and when I say variation, I mean slice, to take weight off the ball against tennis players like Zverev and Medvedev. I think that on fast courts with low bounce, as is the case with Turin, he feels lost, and doesn't find a plan to execute it. Today it was to vary between slices and drop-shots. I don't think Ferrero will contribute much more to this partnership. I don't have a name in mind, but if anyone does, post whatever you're thinking of in the post.

Maybe he should swap coaches with Rune?
Rune doesn't seem to be paying attention to Boris' advice.

 

[nolefam_2024]

I feel like the partnership with Ferrero has reached its peak. There is no more way to help him. I think Carlitos needs more variation, and when I say variation, I mean slice, to take weight off the ball against tennis players like Zverev and Medvedev. I think that on fast courts with low bounce, as is the case with Turin, he feels lost, and doesn't find a plan to execute it. Today it was to vary between slices and drop-shots. I don't think Ferrero will contribute much more to this partnership. I don't have a name in mind, but if anyone does, post whatever you're thinking of in the post.

What will a change in coach do right now? There is always so much hurry to make changes.

ATP finals is competition among top 8. And almost anyone can be anyone else. That's the fun of this tournament. Let's not underrate Alexander Zverev too much either.

 

[CoolCoolCool]

Overreaction, lack of perspective and recency bias. The classic TTW traits.

 

[Milanez82]

Right.
Like what strategies to employ at 40-15 championship points.

He mastered hard court on those too..

Ironically he produced an ace on that famous match on clay didn't he?

 

[Break To Win]

There is no doubt that Ferrero did a great job. But what I said is that it seems to me that Alcaraz with Ferrero will not go any further. Alcaraz needs some improvements in his game, this is nothing unusual considering his age. What I think is that he needs someone who gives him more variation in his game, and who can shorten the points. He clearly has difficulties on faster courts, something like Nadal until 2006. Nadal didn't need to change coaches, but in the case of Alcaraz, I think it's necessary.
Someone with a more offensive mentality.

 

[duaneeo]

Understatement of the decade.

Carlos has won 2 slams at age 20 and became the youngest ever #1. But on TTW he sucks, is an untalented mug and only wins events due to a lot of "luck." Now he needs to fire his coach that helped elevate him to such lofty heights.

The OP simply said Alcaraz's partnership with Ferrero has reached its peak. No one said Carlos sucks or is untalented.

 

[Tennfan123]

The academy will finish draining him of funds first

 

[Federer and Del Potro]

@Kralingen will be his next coach

 

[am1899]

Insane logic.

 

[I Am Finnish]

@Lleytonstation can coach him

 

[BauerAlmeida]

Change of coaches don't always work out, you can regress too (Roddick firing Gilbert).

He should stick with him one more year and then maybe yes.

 

[Musterrific]

You're nuts. Changing good coaches like underwear is something you see on the undignified WTA.

 

[CoolCoolCool]

@Kralingen will be his next coach

Betting money on his opponents is all he needs to do to help him win.

 

[FlyingSaucer]

There is no doubt that Ferrero did a great job. But what I said is that it seems to me that Alcaraz with Ferrero will not go any further. Alcaraz needs some improvements in his game, this is nothing unusual considering his age. What I think is that he needs someone who gives him more variation in his game, and who can shorten the points. He clearly has difficulties on faster courts, something like Nadal until 2006. Nadal didn't need to change coaches, but in the case of Alcaraz, I think it's necessary.
Someone with a more offensive mentality.

Okay. Can he not add someone, rather than doing away with Ferrero altogether? You think what he needs is too different from what Ferrero offers?

 

[Break To Win]

Alcaraz could improve his slice, this could help against Bigfellows like Zverev, Med, Khachanov.

 

[Kralingen]

@Kralingen will be his next coach

I do my 15 minutes on Duolingo every day for a reason.

Guarantee I could get better results than JCF. All I’d need to do is place bets against him

 

[Break To Win]

Okay. Can he not add someone, rather than doing away with Ferrero altogether? You think what he needs is too different from what Ferrero offers?

He needs more variety in his game. For example, he could improve his slice. He has some kind of difficulty on faster courts, this also needs to be improved.

 

[RaulRamirez]

You're nuts. Changing good coaches like underwear is something you see on the undignified WTA.

In my experience, much to my chagrin, they never show then changing their coaches or their underwear. Too much dignity.

 

[dking68]

@Kralingen Sinner to reach a career high of number 2 next year, right?

 

[Pheasant]

Alcaraz is going great with his current coach. During his age 19-20 seasons, he's looking at YE#1, followed by YE#2(if he wins a match, or if Med loses a match) while bagging a slam title in each season. He should keep his coach. Those two years are nearly unprecedented in the Open Era.

Congrats to Carlos for another great season.

 

[Kralingen]

@Kralingen Sinner to reach a career high of number 2 next year, right?

Number 1.

 

[am1899]

He needs more variety in his game. For example, he could improve his slice. He has some kind of difficulty on faster courts, this also needs to be improved.

Not sure what you are watching. Alcaraz and Djoko have more variety than anyone else in the WTF tournament by a wide margin. Also Alcaraz’ backhand slice is excellent.

 

[Mainad]

He needs Federer as his coach.

Federer has stated that he is not interested in coaching anybody.

 

[Fabresque]

These opinions man, kids 20 and has won 2 slams and is #2 in the world only behind the GOAT. There are ZERO problems right now but apparently he’s in a crisis and needs to fire his coaching team who has helped him since he was a child.

 

[CoolCoolCool]

Federer has stated that he is not interested in coaching anybody.

It's pretty interesting that the best tennis players in history are generally not interested in passing on their knowledge of the game.

 

[Mainad]

It's pretty interesting that the best tennis players in history are generally not interested in passing on their knowledge of the game.

He did say apparently that he was open to helping out any up-and-coming young Swiss players but only on an informal basis.

 

[RaulRamirez]

He did say apparently that he was open to helping out any up-and-coming young Swiss players but only on an informal basis.

Which is understandable, and cool. In any sport, it's rare that the very best players become full-time coaches. (Yes, there are exceptions.)

 

[duaneeo]

I agree with the OP, and have expressed the same sentiment before. This year Alcaraz missed a slam due to injury (a continual issue), lost a slam due to cramping (another continual issue), failed to defend a slam due to mentality (seems to have become an issue since winning Wimbledon), and failed to backup the YE#1. Who thought after Madrid that he wouldn't win another Masters? Who thought after Wimbledon that he would enter the WTFs without having since won another title?

This has been a successful season, but not really a progressive season...more so considering the level of competition. Carlos needs another coach to take him to the next level and ATG status.

 

[Hypo Crisis]

I feel like the partnership with Ferrero has reached its peak. There is no more way to help him. I think Carlitos needs more variation, and when I say variation, I mean slice, to take weight off the ball against tennis players like Zverev and Medvedev. I think that on fast courts with low bounce, as is the case with Turin, he feels lost, and doesn't find a plan to execute it. Today it was to vary between slices and drop-shots. I don't think Ferrero will contribute much more to this partnership. I don't have a name in mind, but if anyone does, post whatever you're thinking of in the post.

Maybe just MAyBe, the tour isn't cakewalk thing as you guys claim it is.
Maybe it is not a given that Alcaraz kid should walk through it like he has no resistance at all, no matter how media pumps him, no matter how "passing the torch" or it's "Alcaraz era" narrative is pushed.
Tennis as a sport is a live thing, players evolve, they change, wins are not given thing as they weren't given in 2010, in 2015 or in 2020.
Alcaraz will lose, he will have slumps, even drought years like anyone else, like big 3 had, that doesn't mean his coach has to go

 

[am1899]

And I couldn’t disagree more. What Alcaraz has accomplished already with Ferrero at his side is incredible. Lest we forget, Charlie is only 20 years old(!). And as good as he is, at this early stage, there were bound to be ups and downs. Getting on the coaching carousel is the last thing he needs.

Regardless, it won’t happen.

 

[Rosstour]

Big Roger could teach Tiny Carlos some grass tricks especially useful in Wimbledon matches against Djokovic.

Roger can't teach anyone. That kind of talent doesn't lend itself to explanation

 

[Shaolin]

Gotta nominate this as one if the dumbest threads of the year.

Congrats OP.

 

[Terenigma]

Federer has stated that he is not interested in coaching anybody.

I expect that to change when his kids grow up. Things change and I think Federer does have a love of the game that will come back to him in the form of coaching in maybe 10-15 years or so when his family are less reliant on him and have their own things to focus on.

 

[ScentOfDefeat]

Understatement of the decade.

Carlos has won 2 slams at age 20 and became the youngest ever #1. But on TTW he sucks, is an untalented mug and only wins events due to a lot of "luck." Now he needs to fire his coach that helped elevate him to such lofty heights.

Most of these reactions come from a place of frustration and impatience with his inability to dominate Djokovic and ultimately end his career.
The post-Wimbledon overexcitement has now given way to bitterness.

 

[MeatTornado]

@Kralingen will be his next coach

Kral already is his secret coach. Taking a dive to screw Vegas is the only way to explain some of these losses.

 

[Rosstour]

I expect that to change when his kids grow up. Things change and I think Federer does have a love of the game that will come back to him in the form of coaching in maybe 10-15 years or so when his family are less reliant on him and have their own things to focus on.

Jordan couldn't coach either

The best coaches are the ones who were a level or two below. For them, being a top tier coach is a great way to stay in (or reach) the big show.

But for guys like Fedal, Djoko, Sampras...coaching anyone is a step down. And why would they want to help someone else potentially outshine them? They don't have the makeup to do anything but push themselves to take revenge over petty slights.

 

[Azure]

Maybe just MAyBe, the tour isn't cakewalk thing as you guys claim it is.
Maybe it is not a given that Alcaraz kid should walk through it like he has no resistance at all, no matter how media pumps him, no matter how "passing the torch" or it's "Alcaraz era" narrative is pushed.
Tennis as a sport is a live thing, players evolve, they change, wins are not given thing as they weren't given in 2010, in 2015 or in 2020.
Alcaraz will lose, he will have slumps, even drought years like anyone else, like big 3 had, that doesn't mean his coach has to go

Or maybe, just maybe, the tour is so weak now that we have expectations from a 20 year old kid?

Agree with your last bit.

 

[SonnyT]

He needs Federer as his coach.

Federer's greatest attribute was his touch, his caressing the ball. And that's hard to teach. You either have it, or not.

The games of Nadal and Djokovic, a lot of it involving effort, are easier to teach.

 

[Winners or Errors]

Jordan couldn't coach either

The best coaches are the ones who were a level or two below. For them, being a top tier coach is a great way to stay in (or reach) the big show.

But for guys like Fedal, Djoko, Sampras...coaching anyone is a step down. And why would they want to help someone else potentially outshine them? They don't have the makeup to do anything but push themselves to take revenge over petty slights.

Hmm, I don't think that's it. Lendl and Becker have served as solid coaches.