That’s true, great take. Not sure why crossess like fed had tho. @Babolast do you know something new about this shoes? will they finally be released or completely forgotten with the vapor 12 even dor carlos?
arthurli22
Semi-Pro
nope, definitely won't be retail release in 2025. What's new are Vapor 12 and Vapor pro 3
innoVAShaun
G.O.A.T.
how many pairs of those silvers did he get? These seems brand new and he is playing since China open in this model
innoVAShaun
G.O.A.T.
HO24 colorway. Technically, still in season.
Sorry for the ignorance but what does “HO” mean?
shinminsoo86
Rookie
HOLIDAY
Dae18
Hall of Fame
Interesting to see JCF wearing Nike. Used to see him in ST or Head (cause of his academy) but make sense being with Carlos’ box/team
innoVAShaun
G.O.A.T.
Nike shoes have the actual dates of when they were released. But when you look at the smaller, inner tags on Nike clothing, they tell you what collection they are from. For example, SP18, SU22, FA23, or HO24 would represent season and year.
Nostradamus
Bionic Poster
Juan Carlos isn't wearing the same shoes ? does he not like them ? and where can i buy that shoe Carlos is wearing, ? i want to just as fast as him
lidoazndiabloboi
Hall of Fame
Carlos tinkering with his specs? Mobile RDC on the left.
Juan Carlos is wearing the sangria colorway of the Nike Vapor pro 2, also worn by Draper in Basel, you can buy those on various websites. However, Carlos shoes are a custom made model made only for him in the retail colorways of vapor 11. Carlos shoe is a mix of Vapor pro and vapor 11.
I recently saw a short clip on X where he´s hitting some balls, then stops and someone inmediately hands him another racket to keep playing. So you could be on something. If I find it I´ll post it here.
Carlos tinkering with his specs? Mobile RDC on the left.
And there you go, custom made to look like a vapor 12, but outsole and mold of a vapor pro. Still looks less customized than tha vapor 11 worn by him
Eravauttennis
Rookie
I wonder if it's because of his orthotic. Part of it is that he probably likes the Vapor Pro traction and feels confident in it. The second part might be that the last might be shallower, allowing for a little more room to accommodate his orthotic.
LiamMiguel
Semi-Pro
Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. That Vapor X/VP1 outsole is great for the way he plays. It's really easy to slide and stop in, which is something he obviously needs. He looked really uncomfortable trying to move in the Vapor 11s when he tried it out in Abu Dhabi in 2023. Way more grip in Vapor 11 than the VP1.
Eravauttennis
Rookie
Agreed, I also am starting to think that the full-length tread is better for how he plays, I'm also noting the comfort is a huge thing, he's played with the same shoe for so long now making a change would throw off his timing, especially with how much he plays shots on the run. I wish Foot Doctor Zach would make a video about what types of customizations he would make for a player like Alceraz. At what point does he switch to a carbon fiber shank or is he a candidate for a double shank? Also, why don't pros like Alceraz have their orthotic molded into the shoe, I feel like having an orthotic that you take out and put in every pair of shoes might be a little annoying, and what if they move a little? Especially if a company is fully customizing your shoe from the ground up why not?
Hey at least these are a way closer match to the retail shoe...looks pretty good tbh
Yep i said that..at least those basically look the same
lidoazndiabloboi
Hall of Fame
Not sure what you mean by the mold of the Vapor Pro. The upper is pretty much identical to the Vapor 12. Same lacing system, same tongue. The sockliner area around the ankle is also same angle as the V12. The heel counter does stick out more, more similar to Vapor Pro. We don't have a picture of it yet, but I wonder if on the medial side, he still has the foam "claws" as he did in his "V11"
innoVAShaun
G.O.A.T.
Agreed but this place can be so funny sometimes.
Carlitos with custom franken-Vapors: "I can't believe Nike is making him a PE they won't release, LAME"
Carlitos with a Vapor that basically looks retail minus the outsole: "I can't believe Nike made his new shoe look identical to the retail model, LAME"
Hansen
Professional
but because the retail v 11 were way uglier than his franken-vapors, the joke was on us
You're not wrong, but I think the main issue with the V11 is that it was a good shoe that simply didn't feel or perform like a Vapor. I'm working through 2 pairs right now and whether it's coaching or playing the shoe is honestly pretty good overall, if a touch heavy, but calling it a Vapor sets certain expectations. Seems like the 12 will be able to meet them better.
lidoazndiabloboi
Hall of Fame
No foam "claws" on the medial side.
jmacdaununder2
Legend
Vale Nikensteins…
Subway Tennis
G.O.A.T.
Nike is going to be taking far more money from each of us than they have for years… Finally proper Vapors again!
Nostradamus
Bionic Poster
is this being sold in the market ?
I dont think that someone thinks like that. I personally think that finally nike gave us what he will wear (if not the outsole but its ok)
its one of my all time favs
Yeah looking better maybe its not a custom mold…they look a bit “sharper” in the heel area tho but maybe its my impression. Finally a great looking shoe that will be availible!
Honestly man I have been on this board for like 20 years that is EXACTLY how a lot of people think. But yes I agree, by the same token I would love a return of the Zoom Zero that Sinner wears!
Smecz
Professional
Will these shoes be available in 2025?or is it only for ATP or WTA players again?
Those will be availible. Only the outsole will be different
Smecz
Professional
Thank you for your answer.
theaceproman
Semi-Pro
I think he just does not like the new vp12, He easily could have gotten a different color of the vp12 but must like the old shoe more
I agree. But you know what? I’ve seen the red vapor 12 on ferrero’s feet and its honestly horrendous on feet. I liked the leak but i dont think its really worth it. Especially since it will be pricey. The custom vapor 11, probably its my point of view, was the best custom vapor ever created at least for looks. And nike fumbled hard on that shoe. But it looks like they dont care about tennis anymore.
literally every colour on that custom silhouette was a complete Banger. I really cant wrap my head around that and it pissess me off a lot the fact that i cant buy it lol
theaceproman
Semi-Pro
The colorways were amazing, I think it is the best looking tennis shoe I have ever seen.
right?? Also for me its like that. Sorry Fedfans but not even fed custom vapors were cool like that custom alcaraz vapor 11, at least for me…happy to not be alone on that opinion.
innoVAShaun
G.O.A.T.
As seen practicing in Melbourne Park today.
Thanks Innovashaun. Look how damnn cool those look. they look sharp, futuristic and also durable, with great colors and details.As seen practicing in Melbourne Park today.
Should we start a petition? Maybe if they see a lot of people wanting that they will produce it…does something like that ever worked? ahahAs seen practicing in Melbourne Park today.
theaceproman
Semi-Pro
I think If they released these instead of the vp12, It would have been the best selling shoes of the 2020s if not on of the best all time.
I think that too, Vapor 12 is looking good and meh at the same time. I would sign the petition in case someone wants to start one lol
