Alcaraz on course to be the youngest winner of the channel slam and youngest to defend Wimbledon since Becker in 85-86

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More history beckons Alcaraz.

Already the youngest world number one, the youngest year ending number one, youngest to win a slam on all three surfaces

But should he win, he will race past Borg and Nadal as the youngest winner of the channel slam, both did it at age 22, he will beat them both by a year.

Also, the youngest player since Becker almost 40 years ago to defend the title.

Thought I get this out now, in case it doesn't happen, but that is all the crazy milestones the new icon from Spain is facing. Absolutely incredible.

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Hitman said:
More history beckons Alcaraz.

Already the youngest world number one, the youngest year ending number one, youngest to win a slam on all three surfaces

But should he win, he will race past Borg and Nadal as the youngest winner of the channel slam, both did it at age 22, he will beat them both by a year.

Also, the youngest player since Becker almost 40 years ago to defend the title.

Thought I get this out now, in case it doesn't happen, but that is all the crazy milestones the new icon from Spain is facing. Absolutely incredible.

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Welcome to the "New Mug Era."
 
His return of serve is incredible, the best returner this wimbledon. Carlos is big match player with super strong mentality, Djokovic couldn't beat him at age 36 so I cant see him beating this Carlos at age 37, only Medvedev might pose a respectable challenge. 2 WIMBLEDONS at age 21 this is faster than TENNIS MEASTRO FEDERER.
 
TripleATeam said:
On track? Maybe. Will he get it? Also maybe.

But I'm expecting him to need to beat the guy that was a point away from victory last year, and Carlos' form looks worse than last year.
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It doesn't just look worse than last year, it is worse by virtually every metric. But he took a step forward today so we will see if he continues to trend up.
 
Rosstour said:
He's not on course to do it while the iceberg named Djoko is in the way

What you mean to say is that Djokovic is on course to win his 25th major and take Federer's last record.
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Explain how if Djokovic cant beat him at age 36 how is he going to pull this miracle of at age 37?
 
TripleATeam said:
On track? Maybe. Will he get it? Also maybe.

But I'm expecting him to need to beat the guy that was a point away from victory last year, and Carlos' form looks worse than last year.
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I agree Carlos doesn't look as good as last year.

But who is that poor guy who lost after having had MP? Refresh my memory, amigo!
 
junior74 said:
I agree Carlos doesn't look as good as last year.

But who is that other guy?
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We all know that missed volley in set 2 last year cost Djokovic set 2. He would've had it on his next serve. Then all Djokovic would've needed was a set - which he got in the end. I'm not using the "1 point away" as in he had MP, just that if you flip one point, Alcaraz would've lost in 4.
 
Hitman said:
More history beckons Alcaraz.

Already the youngest world number one, the youngest year ending number one, youngest to win a slam on all three surfaces

But should he win, he will race past Borg and Nadal as the youngest winner of the channel slam, both did it at age 22, he will beat them both by a year.

Also, the youngest player since Becker almost 40 years ago to defend the title.

Thought I get this out now, in case it doesn't happen, but that is all the crazy milestones the new icon from Spain is facing. Absolutely incredible.

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You and me know how great he is and what he is capable of. We can enjoy the ride. Life moves on, life evolves. Alcaraz is proof.
 
TripleATeam said:
We all know that missed volley in set 2 last year cost Djokovic set 2. He would've had it on his next serve. Then all Djokovic would've needed was a set - which he got in the end. I'm not using the "1 point away" as in he had MP, just that if you flip one point, Alcaraz would've lost in 4.
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Ah, ok. I had forgotten.
 
xFedal said:
Explain how if Djokovic cant beat him at age 36 how is he going to pull this miracle of at age 37?
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That's a bit simple-minded, isn't it? Djokovic didn't have his best day and yet he was very close to winning that match. And since then he has Alcaraz' number. That's not a question about age. It wasn't last year and it isn't this year.
 
ChrisRF said:
Djokovic didn't have his best day
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Please, don't make excuses. He played as well as he could aged 36.

As for the unforced errors in the TB, players make unforced errors in all matches. Novak was unlucky to make the UE during a crucial moment, but that's it.

Not saying Novak can't win though. I think a final between them could honestly go either way, both are looking strong as of now.
 
xFedal said:
His return of serve is incredible, the best returner this wimbledon. Carlos is big match player with super strong mentality, Djokovic couldn't beat him at age 36 so I cant see him beating this Carlos at age 37, only Medvedev might pose a respectable challenge. 2 WIMBLEDONS at age 21 this is faster than TENNIS MEASTRO FEDERER.
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His fh return is the best I’ve seen. His timing is incredible like Agassi but with longer arms. He has long arms for someone so short. Is he really short though? How tall is he.
 
xFedal said:
Explain how if Djokovic cant beat him at age 36 how is he going to pull this miracle of at age 37?
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Because you don't magically lose your ability to win matches from age 36 to 37.

And their last year final could've gone either way, was quite close.

In a hypothetical final between them everything could happen.
 
Incognito said:
His fh return is the best I’ve seen. His timing is incredible like Agassi but with longer arms. He has long arms for someone so short. Is he really short though? How tall is he.
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180 cm (5 ft 11) spot on. Nothing more. He's relatively short for an elite tennis player in the modern sport (all GOAT candidates from the 1990s onwards are about 6' 1" onwards, that is Sampras, Federer, Nadal and Novak). But it doesn't seem to matter that much, he's too talented. And he's in good company with the likes of Borg, McEnroe or Agassi being also 5' 11" (Agassi a weak one, probably a bit shorter).
 
xFedal said:
His about 6 feet tall. Looked taller than Tiafoe.
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6 foot in Timberland boots. Tiafoe is 179 cm then.

Look at 2024 pictures of Nadal with Alcaraz in their Las Vegas exhibition, and you'll see how 184 cm Nadal is much taller than Alcaraz. I said Nadal is 184 cm, because he looks slightly shorter than 185 cm Federer.

Alcaraz is 180 cm flat.
 
Laver and Borg are the only ones to win the "Real (Channel) Slam", back when the differences in the surface were stark.

The single asterisk era, accounting for homogenization, was won by Fedal.

We're now in the double asterisk era of Channel Slams due to the extra week between tournaments. Joker is the only holder in this era.
 
If both Carlos and djoke make it to the final, one them will claim he was “injured”. :D

It will be toddler Carlos vs peak djokovic. Bring it on!
 
Rosstour said:
He's not on course to do it while the iceberg named Djoko is in the way

What you mean to say is that Djokovic is on course to win his 25th major and take Federer's last record.
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Don’t worry bro, good will defeat evil. Your hero alcaraz will protect your precious Feds Wimbledon record from Supervillain Djokovic! ;)
 
Rosstour said:
It's not just that, although that is part of it

It's just not good for the game to have one guy win everything, especially when that dude has done it a million times already
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Yeah but he’s won nothing this year. It is not quite 2023 is it? I get it if you over it and want the end of Djokovic winning slams. Fair enough.
 
The kid is doing some amazing things to start his career and move us to a new era from Fedal.

Could be and epic AF (Alcaraz final) for Wimby, and with tricky draw. And then Meddy had some zingers too. Really shows how embarrassing that other half has been for other players.
 
Juice4080 said:
He's breaking better this year compared to the last 2. If he's breaking he's winning you can take that to the bank. He's figured Tiny out. This sunday he will be standing alone on top as the only tennis player male or female to have won 25 GS
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I hope you right but I don’t expect it. Hope Djokovic proves me wrong again though.
 
As I skim read the thread title my brain inserted Tennis before channel slam and I was like, “who calls Wimbledon the Tennis Channel slam?” They don’t even air it live?

But then I re-read it…
 
Rosstour said:
It's not just that, although that is part of it

It's just not good for the game to have one guy win everything, especially when that dude has done it a million times already
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I guarantee that Djokovic won't ease off until he gets that record breaking Slam #25 and an OSG!
 
Rosstour said:
He's not on course to do it while the iceberg named Djoko is in the way

What you mean to say is that Djokovic is on course to win his 25th major and take Federer's last record.
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Alcaraz is a tough, tough competitor and a defending champ but yeah at this point I'd bet on Novak too. I think Novak's finding his serving rhythm (which is the basis of his game as an "old" player) and Alcaraz is a bit too up and down this year, feel like last year he played cleaner tennis.

We'll find out soon anyway, it would probably be the best possible final at this point.
 
Rosstour said:
Djoko was a missed FH bunny away from going up a break in the fifth last year. I think that match was a fluke
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Tennis is a sport often decided by a few points, of course we know there are several big matches where Djokovic was an ace or winner by the opponent away from losing
 
Rosstour said:
Djoko was a missed FH bunny away from going up a break in the fifth last year. I think that match was a fluke
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If Federer didn't choke '11 US Open and '19 Wimbledon away etc. etc.
Woulda coulda shoulda. There's tons of points that have razor thin margins during a match that would have changed the tide. To throw an asterisk on the win because of this one point is plain silly.
 
Djokovic_is_the_best#1 said:
I hope you right but I don’t expect it. Hope Djokovic proves me wrong again though.
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Have some faith in the GOAT and also his new team. Gritsch is the best in the business and Boris Bosnjakovic is a clear upgrade over Goran as far as strategy and analytics. It's just starting to pay off. His ROS which had become a sore spot the last 2 years is now back to his career average. He's not losing
 
NYTennisfan said:
If Federer didn't choke '11 US Open and '19 Wimbledon away etc. etc.
Woulda coulda shoulda. There's tons of points that have razor thin margins during a match that would have changed the tide. To throw an asterisk on the win because of this one point is plain silly.
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I'm not really asterisking it, just think Djoko was the better player in that match and is even hungrier this year.
 
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