My point on this is to argue against the idea that post 30 Novak is some very weak version of his 20s self and that this is unavoidable because players in their 30s are always inferior to the same player in their 20s. This is all wrong
I place more value on the competition that the player had to face versus the number of slams that they've won.
Very quietly and beautifully you are downplaying the achievement of others to elevate your player without telling it is roger fedrer you like. Thats how the mind plays tricks on your thought process. No one cares for stats and wining slams is not important than sportsmanship character .global effect .....Very big word.
Peak Federer was a shanking machine and a mental midget, was he not?
I don't think that even Djokovic's family would say something like that.
Yeah he has, its when he goes for his forehands and misses by 2 meters.
When he comes against a legit attacking player on a properly quick court he looks like a child out there. See 2014 Shanghai match vs Federer for reference, or any number of Cincy beat downs. He needs sticky, bouncy slow courts to play his defensive pong game.
Everything here is distorted.
That is the line given to him by the powers that be (in Spain).
Beating Djokovic should always be considered a big deal especially since this version of Djokovic is still a very good player.
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To be fair when both were at their best from 07-14, nadal leads djokovic 8-3 in slams, including 2-1 at the uso (HC slam). Fact is, Djokovic didn’t peak as high as the other big 3,
Not every opinion should be entertainedLOL
How is Djokovic at his best in 2010 when he had zero top ten 10 wins for the eight and half months of the season, and served more double faults than aces.
And it is quite desperate to count W 2007 as any kind of win at their best, when Djokovic was leading at the start being on pain killers, and having a foot that was bleeding all night and was forced to retire.
Funny how Novak is always at his best, both from 07-14, and still continued to be better past that.
Your fact is just your opinion, it is no fact at all. 2-1 at the bud open, you sound just like my good brother beckerserve.
I will disagree about that. I think most perfect tennis played is by Djokovic. His biggest weakness is he is not able to dominate 10 feet behind baseline. That's all. Otherwise you can see a genius at play, playing tactical game.Jean-Paul Loth : "Alcaraz, ce petit bonhomme qui joue mieux que personne n'a jamais joué"
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Yup. Another veteran sees what we see in Raz.
uso 2010 was a prime tournament from him definitely on par with 08 and 13 just below 11/15. Pre 07 is too young for Djokovic post 2014 is end of Nadal’s prime so 07-14 is a good cutoff.LOL
How is Djokovic at his best in 2010 when he had zero top ten 10 wins for the eight and half months of the season, and served more double faults than aces.
And it is quite desperate to count W 2007 as any kind of win at their best, when Djokovic was leading at the start being on pain killers, and having a foot that was bleeding all night and was forced to retire.
Funny how Novak is always at his best, both from 07-14, and still continued to be better past that.
Your fact is just your opinion, it is no fact at all. 2-1 at the bud open, you sound just like my good brother beckerserve.
The Slam head to head means everything to some Nadal fans because besides clay, it's the only thing he has over Novak. They will defend it until their last breath, no matter how warped it is. Lol.LOL
How is Djokovic at his best in 2010 when he had zero top ten 10 wins for the eight and half months of the season, and served more double faults than aces.
And it is quite desperate to count W 2007 as any kind of win at their best, when Djokovic was leading at the start being on pain killers, and having a foot that was bleeding all night and was forced to retire.
Funny how Novak is always at his best, both from 07-14, and still continued to be better past that.
Your fact is just your opinion, it is no fact at all. 2-1 at the bud open, you sound just like my good brother beckerserve.
It's so disingenuous to say Novak didn't peak as high as the other two after what we all witnessed him do from January 2011 until September 2011. He took on legit tough top 3 challengers and went 10-1 against them including a 43 match win streak. Nadal could not do anything with him and he was the #1 player holding 3 Slams, losing 6 finals when he was 24 and 25. When did Nadal dominate a season like that over anybody? Yet he peaked higher? I guess random 2 week peaks in Slams is more important.
Man, it is shi* at times. Kid has his views, knows the game / the sport. He's spot on-I agree his take.
Heh, heh. Why let this truth spoil the almost desperate speculation?
Peak Djokovic vs Peak Roddick 20 matches at each slam?
In that sense, I disagree too. Alcaraz is the best 21 yo (maybe along with Nadal) with flashes of brilliance that's as good as any I've seen in Tennis.
Do you not understand tennis.
Pointless discussion. Move on.
numbers don’t lie. and fed was the goat after AO17. Quite easy to say that.
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Guys who know how to play tennis like Federer and Djokovic never try to play ten feet behind the baseline. Leave that style to the less talented.
Alexander Sascha ZverevGuys who know how to play tennis like Federer and Djokovic never try to play ten feet behind the baseline. Leave that style to the less talented.
uso 2010 was a prime tournament from him definitely on par with 08 and 13 just below 11/15. Pre 07 is too young for Djokovic post 2014 is end of Nadal’s prime so 07-14 is a good cutoff.
2-1 at uso prime to prime isn’t my opinion either it’s a fact
No one can doubt Djokovic has inflated his stats higher than the others in his mid 30s but his peak was a bit lower at 3/4 slams
2011. Lost to Federer at rg. Should’ve lost at USO. Luckily avoided him at W. Lower level at both W/USO than any of 04-07 fed and of course at rg as he lost there.
Everyone knows Djokovic wasn’t as good as Federer at their very best. The guy can barely volley or smash a ball. He needs slow conditions all round to grind down a 30-34 year old fed and even then it was always close.
One loss out of 11. The horror. Very "lucky" this guy. Sounds like you struggle to give credit. Djokovic dethroned the two dominant forces in the game at the time. With all their high peaks, neither did anything like it.
Whichever you choose.
No idea whoIts our bud working overtime to deliver.
Only wins within a certain time period count, even if your blood is bleeding and playing on pain killers.
And 2-1 at the bud open....LOL Djokovic hitting 55 UEs in 2013 is true prime level performance, and basically have zero top ten wins for nearly nine months is a great sign of someone being in their prime. LMAO.
Nobody consider 35 year old Andre Agassi to be a high quality win for Fed.
What happened at slams was the most important. What you mentioned were inconsequential! Fast or slow court, it didn't matter, Djokovic won them all, as long as it was a slam court!
No, Roddick and Hewitt moreso Safin are comparable to Sinner and Medvedev. Why even throw Musseti's name in there, he's never even been a top 10 player, he's not one of the best players of Alcaraz's generation.
