Alcaraz/Sinner; Swiatek/Sabalenka Projections

[RaulRamirez]

There's much more to life than tennis, and more to tennis than slams, but here we are.

As of now, Carlos (just 21) leads Sinner (23) 4-2 in slams, although arguably, Sinner is the better player on the most prevalent surface, hard courts. Regardless of who you like more, how do you roughly envision their careers playing out?

Same question with Swiatek (23) and Sabalenka (26), with Iga leading 5-3, but Saba looking like the more dominant HC player.

For each tour, who do you see as the player most likely to challenge them over the next, say, 7 years?

 

[nolefam_2024]

I think sinner has taken over reigns.

Just like Nadal did to Nole, sinner may get challenged a lot but he would dominate tennis.

 

[tennis3]

Carlos will win around 30 Slams. He's winning now playing like a jackass. Just until he actually starts playing tennis instead of simply crushing everyone based on talent alone.

Sinner isn't close to the player Carlos is. He'll be #2 for most of his career.

 

[Gizo]

Sabalenka is currently a bigger favourite (a significantly bigger favourite as things stand) than Swiatek at 3 out of the 4 majors (at this point I'd be shocked if she doesn't win Wimbledon in the not too distant future). She also looks to stand a noticeably better chance of striking gold at Roland Garros than Swiatek does at Wimbledon.

Her consistency at the majors, with her only failing to reach the semis at 1 of the last 8 that she has entered (at RG this year when she still reached the quarter-finals and was visibly unwell), is hugely impressive.

But on the flipside Swiatek is 3 years younger, which could be crucial here, and also has played in 183 fewer career matches than Sabalenka at this point in time (i.e. more than 2 full seasons worth of matches), and so has noticeably less mileage on the clock.

I do think that the 'disconnect' between her results at the 2 hard court majors (with 0 semi-final appearances and 1 quarter-final appearance in her last 4 attempts), and at other big hard court events (she is currently the reigning champion at the YEC and 3 WTA 1000 events on the surface), will surely be concerning her. But she should still have time on her side to address that, and technical issues in general - clearly she needs to continue to work on her serve, and I think that more slices, dropshots and sharp angles would help her.

Alongside Sabalenka's bludgeoning power and improved serve (especially compared to a couple of years ago when she had the yips and tapped in underarm serves as a result at times), she's currently also hitting more dropshots and coming to the net noticeably more regularly than Swiatek at this point.

 

[Djokovic_is_the_best#1]

Sinner will end the best player of the 2000’s players. The 90s players are sadly already forgotten about despite the fact I like meddy and Zverev.

 

[Neptune]

Now Sinner-Alcaraz Race: What's your prediction, Sinner fans and Alcaraz fans?

Throne Race: from 5 : 36 to ??

Slam Race: from 1 : 4 to ??

Top10Win Race: from 29 : 31 to ??

Sinner-Alcaraz Race (initial check point Jul 14, 2024)
Throne Race: from 5-36 to 15-36
Slam Race: from 1-4 to 2-4
Big Title Race: 3-9 to 5-9
Top10Win Race: from 29 : 31 to 32 : 31

 

[SonnyT]

There's much more to life than tennis, and more to tennis than slams, but here we are.

As of now, Carlos (just 21) leads Sinner (23) 4-2 in slams, although arguably, Sinner is the better player on the most prevalent surface, hard courts. Regardless of who you like more, how do you roughly envision their careers playing out?

Same question with Swiatek (23) and Sabalenka (26), with Iga leading 5-3, but Saba looking like the more dominant HC player.

For each tour, who do you see as the player most likely to challenge them over the next, say, 7 years?

Jannike & Carlos have played 6 HC matches in their career. Carlos leads 4-2; Jannike won on clay and Wimbledon. So much for depending on one year of data!

Future challenger of Alcaraz/Sinner hasn't emerged yet, such as Novak hadn't emerged in the late 10's, not as serious challenger to Fedal.

 

[nolefam_2024]

Jannike & Carlos have played 6 HC matches in their career. Carlos leads 4-2; Jannike won on clay and Wimbledon. So much for depending on one year of data!

Future challenger of Alcaraz/Sinner hasn't emerged yet, such as Novak hadn't emerged in the late 10's, not as serious challenger to Fedal.

That's fine.

Important matches matter more. The RG semis is weighed heavily

Although sinner was leading in that till midway fourth set. Alcaraz won. So currently sinner needs to beat him on clay preferably in RG

The way sinner played in usopen, he will be huge contender at rg

 

[legcramp]

 

[nolefam_2024]

He won't challenge for slams for at least another year. By then both sinner and raz would be near ATG level stats wise. Rune is not at their level at least as of today and I don't see him doing much more than zverev will do in his career. Maybe rune can prove us wrong.

 

[nolefam_2024]

First round losses are for losers

 

[nolefam_2024]