Alcaraz will not win Wimbledon

TheGoldenEra1990’s said:
I’ll go even further. Last years might be his only one. Maybe one more. I see a similar Nadal type career for Carlos on grass. I wouldn’t be surprised if sinner wins 6-7 Wimbledons in a row

The stars aligned perfectly for Carlos last year
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I'm not sure Jarry, Berrettini, Rune, Medvedev, Djokovic in the last five rounds is the stars aligning perfectly. He clearly has some talent on grass.
 
NeutralFan said:
People are hyping Carlos off the roof. After playing full clay season he seems gassed and tired , his grass form is nowhere near last year. He looked like fish out of water at queens. Meanwhile Sinner will be more confident after recovering from injury , his lethal serve + combo will be deadly on grass and I don't see anyone stopping Sinner at SW19. Carlos barly beat Sinner in 5 sets on his worst surface ( after Sinner's run got derailed by injury at Madrid imo Sinner will win in 3 or 4 sets if they meet at Wimbledon.
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Don't worry man. Carlos was just taking it easy at Queens because he was bit tired after french open. he will play 100 % when wimby rolls around. his 100 % is better than everyone elses 150 %
 
NeutralFan said:
Lol at Pusherdev as second favourite
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Agree, now medvedev's worst surface seem to be grass. he's improved great deal on clay courts,, but now he sucks on grass. i think it has to do with the fact that he doesn't play much on grass and his movement isn't as good and he struggles with balance on grass more. its understandable,, i don't think he really cares,, he just plays wimbledon cause its a slam.
 
Correct. Alcaraz is not winning Wimbledon this year or ever again.

Sinner will destroy him again just like in their 2022 4th round match. Sinner does everything better than Alcaraz on grass.
 
Shaolin said:
No one is hyping Carlos at all.

If anyhing he deserves more hype. All I read on here is that he's a 5'6 weaponless grinder with a broken down body.
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This cognitive dissonance is really getting on my nerves. How can you people allow your fan-brain cloud your vision of reality THIS much? I was lurking this forum for a while before the admins gave me an account and, from first being the most prevalent to last being least, this is what I noticed from the forum:

1. Alcaraz is already the GOAT
2. Sinner is already the GOAT
3. Sinner is nothing but a 1-trick Berdych
4. Alcaraz is already an ATG

None of these is currently true.
 
NeutralFan said:
People are hyping Carlos off the roof. After playing full clay season he seems gassed and tired , his grass form is nowhere near last year. He looked like fish out of water at queens. Meanwhile Sinner will be more confident after recovering from injury , his lethal serve + combo will be deadly on grass and I don't see anyone stopping Sinner at SW19. Carlos barly beat Sinner in 5 sets on his worst surface ( after Sinner's run got derailed by injury at Madrid imo Sinner will win in 3 or 4 sets if they meet at Wimbledon.
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Alcaraz will need a soft draw. If he gets Hurckacz in his section he is doomed, and i think Grigor could be a problem and Paul.
I think Halle's final today probably saw the winner of W, one of those two will do it.
 
I didn’t think Carlos would make the semis last year let alone win the final over Novak. But he did. I’d definitely say he’s got to be the favorite going in with Novak potentially out.

I think sinner has a great shot to win. But let’s be honest. That late surge last year that continued through Miami where he looked unbeatable at times - isn’t there right now. Even in Halle there were moments guys had a chance.

If he regains that Australia/Netherlands/Miami open form - yeah he’s not losing this tournament.
 
ChrisJR3264 said:
I didn’t think Carlos would make the semis last year let alone win the final over Novak. But he did. I’d definitely say he’s got to be the favorite going in with Novak potentially out.

I think sinner has a great shot to win. But let’s be honest. That late surge last year that continued through Miami where he looked unbeatable at times - isn’t there right now. Even in Halle there were moments guys had a chance.

If he regains that Australia/Netherlands/Miami open form - yeah he’s not losing this tournament.
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You're beyond deluded if you put Carlos ahead of Sinner as favourite.imo the top 3 favourite would be

1-Sinner

2- Hurkacz

3- Carlos
 
NeutralFan said:
You're beyond deluded if you put Carlos ahead of Sinner as favourite.imo the top 3 favourite would be

1-Sinner

2- Hurkacz

3- Carlos
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I don’t trust hurcakz to get through. He’s a one slam semi final wonder lol.
When the draw was pretty open in 2022 - he lost first round. His draw is most likely not going to be easy.

I project sinner /alcaraz final.
I don’t trust med or zverev to push either of the two on grass. One or both may not make the semis. Not really their best surface.

Sure Hubie can do some damage but I can’t see him winning it. If his draw works out for him - maybe semis. I think dimitrov’s chances of winning are better than Hurcakz.
 
ChrisJR3264 said:
I didn’t think Carlos would make the semis last year let alone win the final over Novak. But he did. I’d definitely say he’s got to be the favorite going in with Novak potentially out.

I think sinner has a great shot to win. But let’s be honest. That late surge last year that continued through Miami where he looked unbeatable at times - isn’t there right now. Even in Halle there were moments guys had a chance.

If he regains that Australia/Netherlands/Miami open form - yeah he’s not losing this tournament.
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Regarding his current form in Halle, I beg to differ. Don’t forget Griekspoor took a set off Sinner in Miami just as he did in Halle, but a set is just a set. Sinner’s performance in Halle looks far more authoritative and fluid than his clay run. He looks confident, relaxed, healthy and in control. His serve and return is lights out, and his net game has improved. These ingredients have proven vital in the days and weeks leading up to Wimbledon.
 
ChrisJR3264 said:
I don’t trust hurcakz to get through. He’s a one slam semi final wonder lol.
When the draw was pretty open in 2022 - he lost first round. His draw is most likely not going to be easy.

I project sinner /alcaraz final.
I don’t trust med or zverev to push either of the two on grass. One or both may not make the semis. Not really their best surface.

Sure Hubie can do some damage but I can’t see him winning it. If his draw works out for him - maybe semis. I think dimitrov’s chances of winning are better than Hurcakz.
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Lol at Dimi's chances. Dude's ship has sailed long ago. Imo Carlos will lose to Hurkacz and then Sinner will beat Hurkacz in straights. Sinner's return + serve combo plus his fire power will be too much for any player. Imo he's peaking like Fed 2004.
 
Humble Crumble said:
Regarding his current form in Halle, I beg to differ. Don’t forget Griekspoor took a set off Sinner in Miami just as he did in Halle, but a set is just a set. Sinner’s performance in Halle looks far more authoritative and fluid than his clay run. He looks confident, relaxed, healthy and in control. His serve and return is lights out, and his net game has improved. These ingredients have proven vital in the days and weeks leading up to Wimbledon.
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I don’t disagree. But he’s not at that level in Australia and Rotterdam where he looked like he could take the calendar year slam haha.

I think him and Carlos are the favorites to meet in the final. I was disappointed that sinner seemed to fold in that French open semi bc I thought he was the better player through 4 sets and just lost it.
 
ChrisJR3264 said:
I don’t disagree. But he’s not at that level in Australia and Rotterdam where he looked like he could take the calendar year slam haha.

I think him and Carlos are the favorites to meet in the final. I was disappointed that sinner seemed to fold in that French open semi bc I thought he was the better player through 4 sets and just lost it.
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Lol
 
NeutralFan said:
Lol at Dimi's chances. Dude's ship has sailed long ago. Imo Carlos will lose to Hurkacz and then Sinner will beat Hurkacz in straights. Sinner's return + serve combo plus his fire power will be too much for any player. Imo he's peaking like Fed 2004.
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I’m honestly not ruling sinner out winning Wimbledon.
He looked like the better player and should’ve won in 4 in that French open SF but idk what happened to him. He just crumbled.
Alcaraz pulled that match out despite not playing well. He pulled out the Wimbledon title last year when I don’t think he was considered a threat in grass and he beat Novak.

So yeah I still have Carlos as the favorite but slightly.

Can hubie pull an upset? I wouldn’t rule it out. But I can also see him going down in the 4th round too.
 
ChrisJR3264 said:
I’m honestly not ruling sinner out winning Wimbledon.
He looked like the better player and should’ve won in 4 in that French open SF but idk what happened to him. He just crumbled.
Alcaraz pulled that match out despite not playing well. He pulled out the Wimbledon title last year when I don’t think he was considered a threat in grass and he beat Novak.

So yeah I still have Carlos as the favorite but slightly.

Can hubie pull an upset? I wouldn’t rule it out. But I can also see him going down in the 4th round too.
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Tbh Sinner played like a Pusher in semi after first set and still took Carlos to 5 , it makes me more confident about their rivalry ( had almost half the numbers of winners to Carlos yet he looked like he could have won ) i won't rule out FO next year and even CYGs.
 
NeutralFan said:
Tbh Sinner played like a Pusher in semi after first set and still took Carlos to 5 , it makes me more confident about their rivalry ( had almost half the numbers of winners to Carlos yet he looked like he could have won ) i won't rule out FO next year and even CYGs.
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I mean that’s what I meant by choking against Carlos…..which could happen again in London? Potentially he doesn’t? Unsure …
 
NeutralFan said:
People are hyping Carlos off the roof. After playing full clay season he seems gassed and tired , his grass form is nowhere near last year. He looked like fish out of water at queens. Meanwhile Sinner will be more confident after recovering from injury , his lethal serve + combo will be deadly on grass and I don't see anyone stopping Sinner at SW19. Carlos barly beat Sinner in 5 sets on his worst surface ( after Sinner's run got derailed by injury at Madrid imo Sinner will win in 3 or 4 sets if they meet at Wimbledon.
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What will you do if by any chance, Alcaraz wins Wimbledon?
 
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Sudacafan said:
What will you do if by sny chance, Alcaraz wins Wimbledon?
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I don’t think saying Carlos being the slight favorite is “hyping him off the roof” lol. It’s just speaking facts. I honestly didn’t think he’d win the French going in - I had sinner but didn’t happen. Thought Carlos arm would probably hinder him when it got to the QF/Sf.
 
Humble Crumble said:
This cognitive dissonance is really getting on my nerves. How can you people allow your fan-brain cloud your vision of reality THIS much? I was lurking this forum for a while before the admins gave me an account and, from first being the most prevalent to last being least, this is what I noticed from the forum:

1. Alcaraz is already the GOAT
2. Sinner is already the GOAT
3. Sinner is nothing but a 1-trick Berdych
4. Alcaraz is already an ATG

None of these is currently true.
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QFT.
 
for consistency, sinner is better than carlos this year but carlos has the experience of winning SW19
i would say it is a 50/50 (esp that carlos cant use moonballs on clay )
 
Nostradamus said:
Agree, now medvedev's worst surface seem to be grass. he's improved great deal on clay courts,, but now he sucks on grass. i think it has to do with the fact that he doesn't play much on grass and his movement isn't as good and he struggles with balance on grass more. its understandable,, i don't think he really cares,, he just plays wimbledon cause its a slam.
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A much easier explanation is that in the last few seasons his serve has gotten considerably worse.

This is probably related to the back problems that forced him to undergo surgery after Miami 2022.

His best Wimbledon level-wise was 2021, in which he pretty much threw away the 4R match with Hurkacz after a rain delay.

Maybe in an alternate universe he did beat Hurkacz and then delivered the coup the grace to Federer, to @Kralingen's delight.
 
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Humble Crumble said:
Moonballing is far less effective on grass than clay. Djokovic choked that fifth set, imho.
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You can say what you want but Alcaraz' variety -- including resetting high forehand balls down the line, bothered Djokovic from set 2 on.

Alcaraz choked that 4th tbh. Sinner being a super strong Djokovic variant is still susceptible to unsettling changes of pace as we can see in their matches this year.

Also yeah, that Djokovic was a million times better than the garbage that Sinner beat at AO. But hey a win is a win.
 
FeroBango said:
You can say what you want but Alcaraz' variety -- including resetting high forehand balls down the line, bothered Djokovic from set 2 on.

Alcaraz choked that 4th tbh. Sinner being a super strong Djokovic variant is still susceptible to unsettling changes of pace as we can see in their matches this year.

Also yeah, that Djokovic was a million times better than the garbage that Sinner beat at AO. But hey a win is a win.
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If we’re going to analyse every set then that AO match was actually up and down for both. Djokovic picked up his game in the third set and played good enough to clinch the TB with Sinner’s level dipping a bit.

The real test for Sinner wasn’t finding the level for the match, but finding it for the most important moments and not letting that 3rd set loss bother him. He kept his nerve and found his game to cross the finish line against somebody that had 10 AO titles to his name and was virtually undefeated. That’s why Sinner deserves the credit despite Djokovic’s poor level.
 
NeutralFan said:
People are hyping Carlos off the roof. After playing full clay season he seems gassed and tired , his grass form is nowhere near last year. He looked like fish out of water at queens. Meanwhile Sinner will be more confident after recovering from injury , his lethal serve + combo will be deadly on grass and I don't see anyone stopping Sinner at SW19. Carlos barly beat Sinner in 5 sets on his worst surface ( after Sinner's run got derailed by injury at Madrid imo Sinner will win in 3 or 4 sets if they meet at Wimbledon.
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Djokovic will beat Sinner. Quite Easily at that.
 
Predicting that someone in particular will not win a tournament is only a prediction that's interesting when someone's super dominant like Rafa, Roger, and Novak were at different times/places in their careers.

Alcaraz isn't dominant like those were, he's never even had a multi-slam year yet, he's not even world #1. There's nobody dominant enough in tennis right now that "this guy WON'T win Wimbledon" is a bold take.
 
GrassCourtFan said:
Predicting that someone in particular will not win a tournament is only a prediction that's interesting when someone's super dominant like Rafa, Roger, and Novak were at different times/places in their careers.

Alcaraz isn't dominant like those were, he's never even had a multi-slam year yet, he's not even world #1. There's nobody dominant enough in tennis right now that "this guy WON'T win Wimbledon" is a bold take.
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Solid take +1
 
GrassCourtFan said:
Alcaraz isn't dominant like those were, he's never even had a multi-slam year yet, he's not even world #1. There's nobody dominant enough in tennis right now that "this guy WON'T win Wimbledon" is a bold take.
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Imagine someone doing a thread declaring Sinner “won’t” win Wimbledon. We all know Neutralfan would come at them like a ton of bricks. Just an immature fan boy.
 
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