Alex de Minaur seems to be really struggling at the tail end of summer

christo

Hall of Fame
hasn't been able to string match wins together lately and a lot of his matches have been gruelling battles. Serve has really been marginal the last few times I've seen him on the telly.
 

sredna42

Hall of Fame
hasn't been able to string match wins together lately and a lot of his matches have been gruelling battles. Serve has really been marginal the last few times I've seen him on the telly.
He was right up there at one point but really seems to have faded hard. I wonder if he is burnt out
 

James P

G.O.A.T.
Yeah, I was sure he was gonna stay perreniel top-15 or so, but it's not happening for him lately.
 

christo

Hall of Fame
Alex lost to Marcos Giron today who is not gonna scare too many of the top players, he just seems to have lost his confidence
 

DjokoLand

Hall of Fame
I said it when he went to 3 with Nadal at the ATP Cup, he won't amount to anything...
People see players rising through the rankings then look at there age and instantly think they’ll hit the top. Alex is a fighter and has great movement but it’s obvious when he came on the scene he didn’t have the weapons to go too the top.
I remember Coric hitting top 40 at 18 and most said he would go to #1 yet anyone who watched him could see his FH was so bad that it would always hold him back.
 
He does not pronate on the serve. Too hard to win free points with that pancake motion.

Grinding out every point even on your serve takes a toll on you, I would think..

Just my opinion as a rec player commenting on the professional game.
 

fundrazer

Legend
He does not pronate on the serve. Too hard to win free points with that pancake motion.

Grinding out every point even on your serve takes a toll on you, I would think..

Just my opinion as a rec player commenting on the professional game.
Uhhh....so unless I'm drunk and this video is playing tricks on my eyes, he's 100% pronating. Unless you think that he somehow pronates after big L position on serve but stops pronating before he makes contact.
 
From article:

De Minaur beat Lorenz Sonego 4-6 6-4 7-7 (7-5) in the Eastbourne final for his fifth ATP title and his second this year. Seeded 15 is quite the achievement, but to be one of the very best, top five, genuinely threatening to win majors, he needs to overcome the technical deficiency on serve.

His problem is this. There’s no shoulder rotation. He’s like a baseball pitcher trying to throw heat while standing too front on.

At the start of the serve, for a right-hander, your right shoulder needs to go as far back and left as possible. You coil your torso and then release power from the knees, hips, tummy and shoulders.

Try throwing a ball with a huge side-on motion, one that has only your left shoulder pointing ahead during the backswing. Then try throwing a ball while standing more front-on. The difference in velocity is vast.

Watch de Minaur serve. His feet start in the perfect position, right foot back behind the left, the ideal start to what should be a huge shoulder turn. But the shoulders and racquet don’t go where the feet are asking them to.

Look at the photo. The problem is when his racquet face drops low, instead of rotating around to his left, it stops and goes straight up on the right. Standing side on, the right shoulder and racquet is supposed to go behind his body. But they stay out to the right.

Alex de Minaur’s serve is the flaw in his game Picture: AFP
When the racquet should be at eight o’clock, below and behind his bum, it’s at about four-thirty. In essence, De Minaur, who has plenty of height at 183cm, is getting his power only from his arm. Which isn’t enough. The biggest servers throw their entire lower body into it. He can still serve quite well, but his glitch makes it more difficult to serve with consistent oomph against the big boppers.

Regardless! He’s just won Eastbourne. He’s the 15th best tennis player in the world, and there’s about a million of them, so he has plenty going for him in other departments.

He hasn’t changed much in the last few years. There’s good and bad in that. What he’s always done well, he still does really well. Fight. Chase. Hit a clean ball.

He’s still quick, he still competes for every point, he’s developed a slightly more looping forehand when required. All of this was enough to get de Minaur into the top 20 two years ago, and it will probably be good enough to get him into the top 10. But the serve is a worry.
 

Visionary

Professional
At the end of many seasons, after the USOs, there have been a few players who could not finish their years well; Rafa has been one example. So, I'd give Alex some time to re-think his training strategies.
 

Wander

Hall of Fame
People see players rising through the rankings then look at there age and instantly think they’ll hit the top. Alex is a fighter and has great movement but it’s obvious when he came on the scene he didn’t have the weapons to go too the top.
I remember Coric hitting top 40 at 18 and most said he would go to #1 yet anyone who watched him could see his FH was so bad that it would always hold him back.
I basically agree. De Minaur is one of those players who has basically already peaked. Like Coric, he'll have a decent career, but I think a top 10 ranking is off the table.
 
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