Alexander Zverev has been issued a penalty order for bodily harm against his former girlfriend
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ronalditop
Hall of Fame
I hope theres definite proof and not just going by what her ex says.
Tennfan123
Legend
Read the article and you’ll find out.
RF-18
Talk Tennis Guru
"In German law, a penalty order is utilised by a public prosecutor’s office when it does not consider a trial to be necessary, such as when the case is relatively simple and there is compelling evidence in favour of the accusation. The defendant has a right to contest the penalty order, leading to a public trial."
BeatlesFan
Bionic Poster
It’s three women who have accused this POS, not just one. Are you going to accuse all three of lying?
Aussie Darcy
Bionic Poster
No it's not new. This however isn't the girlfriend Olya who made the allegations when they were at the US Open that he threw her against a wall.
This is ANOTHER woman, Brenda, the mother of his child.
SO he's had not one but 2 ex partners accuse him of domestic violence and now the court has issued the penalty order..
Yes, we know that.
More accusations does not equal guilt you know.
You ever notice when all the girls start crying at a Beatles concert?
Who's the third?
Bill Lobsalot
Hall of Fame
He evidently wears a chain for every woman he's beaten. He's got some mental issues.
Aussie Darcy
Bionic Poster
Tell you what, more accusations sure doesn't paint a damn good picture of him. And it's clearly not just "allegations" since the court has issued a penalty order. Think before you post next time. Your opinions on this seem concerning,
Mediterranean Might
Professional
People are allowed to have their opinions. Signs on and off court point to Zed being a POS
Mazz Retic
Hall of Fame
If the penalty order is upheld after Zverev's defence then he deserves what he gets. However, he is entitled to appeal and even the article states he retains the presumption of innocence before the trial.
Bartelby
Bionic Poster
Popular opinion is mostly wrong.
I've extensively commented on doping cases but usually based on official documents where matters are canvassed with considerable evidence.
I don't see how anyone can comment who hasn't read anything.
mental midget
Hall of Fame
he could pay it but it's not insignificant. cut those earnings in half after taxes, coaches etc., maybe more than half. of course, add endorsements etc...he'll be fine but that's a decent chunk of change.
So you're ready with the pitchfork just based on you seeing enough "evidence"?
Wow. How medieval of you. Very concerning but not surprising.
Aussie Darcy
Bionic Poster
Didn't say lock him up and throw away the key, Just that there is a pattern here and clearly evidence for the penalty order to be issued. You don't seem to care though.
messiahrobins
Legend
Innocent until proven guilty. For now im a fan of zverev and hope he wins slams after that horror injury.
You're still doing it. Your last sentence is more of your lack of evidence sentencing disorder again.
Tennfan123
Legend
Some of you need to do some research on what the penalty order means and why he’s been fined.
Mainad
Bionic Poster
To have 1 ex-girlfriend accuse you of bodily harm may be unfortunate. To have TWO ex-girlfriends say the same sounds careless. Either he has serious problems when it comes to the way he treats the women in his life or, if innocent, needs to hang out with a better crowd. Either way, this is not a good look for him! 
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Note that these fines are proportional to the accused’s income. They’re meant to be painful in a proportionate way. Someone with a more normal income would get maybe a fine of just a few thousand euros. Judging from previous known cases involving athletes and their girlfriends, I would say half a million euros doesn’t indicate a serious offence.
I would say probably a bit of both.To have 1 ex-girlfriend accuse you of bodily harm may be unfortunate. To have TWO ex-girlfriends say the same sounds careless. Either he has serious problems when it comes to the way he treats the women in his life or, if innocent, needs to hang out with a better crowd. Either way, this is not a good look for him!
Aestheticsaboveallelse
Legend
Arent legal systems/government always extremely slow on things like this?
NoleFam
Bionic Poster
I was thinking this was the same case but seems this is from the mother of his child, and this came to light this year. I had no idea a 2nd woman accused him until this. The article said it happened in May 2020 so that's why I though that.
Terenigma
G.O.A.T.
I'm so sick of this case being plastered all over the media when there is still NO PROOF and NO TRIAL VERDICT. This is once again being based on an accusation, be it from one person or two women who were broken up with him when they made the accusations and are maybe trying to get a pay day from a super rich sports star and all we (the public) know about the inner workings is literally what the lawyers are saying but again I must remind people that you are INNOCENT until PROVEN guilty.
Also sorry about the highlighted part of my statement. It's just my opinion of what's happening, just like most of yours is assuming he's guilty. Neither of us have proof and I hope this does go to a full public trial where it can be laid to rest either one way or another.
Also sorry about the highlighted part of my statement. It's just my opinion of what's happening, just like most of yours is assuming he's guilty. Neither of us have proof and I hope this does go to a full public trial where it can be laid to rest either one way or another.
Aestheticsaboveallelse
Legend
Yea seriously how the heck could they posdibly know he beat her
Terenigma
G.O.A.T.
Look I don't know if he did, You don't know if he did. All I know is people should be given the benefit of the doubt until proven guilty and It seems like he and his lawyers are pushing for a public trial where it will end. Even if a trial can find no evidence though, This accusations will stay with him his entire life and that's the part that bothers me about all this, people are too quick too judge just because the subject matter is sensitive.
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Zardoz7/12
Hall of Fame
Can I ask has there been a trial? Surely this is itself is a judgement of guilt though?
If you're in an argument leave the room, leave the house, remember many murders are committed in the heat of the moment over domestic disputes.
I got so much stick for this mentioning this on another site but I've always said Women should learn self defense or encouraged to do so. If you've grown up witnessing domestic violence and abuse towards Women then you could understand my premise.
If you're in an argument leave the room, leave the house, remember many murders are committed in the heat of the moment over domestic disputes.
I got so much stick for this mentioning this on another site but I've always said Women should learn self defense or encouraged to do so. If you've grown up witnessing domestic violence and abuse towards Women then you could understand my premise.
Terenigma
G.O.A.T.
From my admittedly limited understanding, a penalty order is like saying "Look, you we know you're guilty and we have the proof, so you pay the fine and we won't take this to court where it will all become a much bigger deal than it is and gain much more publicity" but the fact Zverev and his lawyers are contesting this and actually want to go to trial suggests to me that it's a bluff on the prosecution side of things.
I think only accepting the fine is an admission of guilt. Maybe someone with better knowledge of the law can correct me on this?
BorgTheGOAT
Legend
How are there three? Who is the third?
Aestheticsaboveallelse
Legend
And just a fine makes no sense anyway... if you know he did it you at least temporary ban. Just a fine indicates you're unsure in which case its BS to punish at all
Boateng was fined 1.8 million euros for similar charges, he took it to court, still was found guilty, fine reduced to 1.2 millions as the judge ruled that prosecutors have exaggerated the accusations. Take this as an example of what could happen. Prosecutors sometimes offer a fine when they don’t have a case. Half a million is peanuts. I expect the case to be dismissed in court.
Rafa4LifeEver
G.O.A.T.
Bartelby
Bionic Poster
All that phrase really means is that the prosecution has to assemble all the proof that the accused committed the crime and convince the jury that he did.
The defence just has to cast reasonable doubt. American shows that depict the defence investigating the crime independently is something that doesn't happen in other jurisdictions.
They do however hire expert witnesses to cast doubt on prosecution forensics and the like.
In Germany there is no jury as far as I know.
jackson vile
G.O.A.T.
I don’t believe her, too many false claims these days
Bartelby
Bionic Poster
I wasn't talking about the German system, but yes the judge decides fact and law.
