Alexander Zverev : ''I can't afford Boris Becker."

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An honest Alexander Zverev has admitted that he can't afford Boris Becker at the moment but would love to work with a great champion like him in the future.

''Boris could definitely help me to improve my game, but if I want to work with him, first I have to win some tournaments because at the moment I cannot afford it. So if I wanted to do it, I would have to wait at least a couple of years.''

http://www.**************.org/news/...-to-hire-boris-becker-but-i-can-t-afford-it-/
 

Big_Dangerous

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An honest Alexander Zverev has admitted that he can't afford Boris Becker at the moment but would love to work with a great champion like him in the future.

''Boris could definitely help me to improve my game, but if I want to work with him, first I have to win some tournaments because at the moment I cannot afford it. So if I wanted to do it, I would have to wait at least a couple of years.''

http://www.**************.org/news/...-to-hire-boris-becker-but-i-can-t-afford-it-/

Yet he wears a wrist watch that's worth almost a million dollars... :rolleyes:
 
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Zara

Guest
I wonder if Murray would be interested in hiring Becker. Lendl was good for him back then but I am not sure if he brought anything new this time. Didn't like the way Andy got distracted against Nishikori at the USO and I don't think it was addressed properly since then. Though Andy did pretty good at WTF especially in the final.

Also the 1st serve needs work - need to be more consistent so that he won't have to rely on his 2nd too much. The 2nd needs a bit of work too though it has apparently improved over the last few months, I still don't find it reliable. Zverev punished it quite a bit at AO. Murray though hinted recently that he was ill prepared for the AO but still. I just want his serves to be more reliable because that's all he needs. He finds lots of confidence when he serves well (or perhaps vice versa) and that helps rest of his game.

Anyway, I think Becker can help in those regards. Sampras would be ideal but that's probably far fetched.

Sorry for making this all about Murray. Hope Zverev can afford BB in the future or perhaps BB should compromise and see the potential in Zverev? It's an open offer after all.
 

mike danny

Bionic Poster
I wonder if Murray would be interested in hiring Becker. Lendl was good for him back then but I am not sure if he brought anything new this time. Didn't like the way Andy got distracted against Nishikori at the USO and I don't think it was addressed properly since then. Though Andy did pretty good at WTF especially in the final.

Also the 1st serve needs work - need to be more consistent so that he won't have to rely on his 2nd too much. The 2nd needs a bit of work too though it has apparently improved over the last few months, I still don't find it reliable. Zverev punished it quite a bit at AO. Murray though hinted recently that he was ill prepared for the AO but still. I just want his serves to be more reliable because that's all he needs. He finds lots of confidence when he serves well (or perhaps vice versa) and that helps rest of his game.

Anyway, I think Becker can help in those regards. Sampras would be ideal but that's probably far fetched.

Sorry for making this all about Murray. Hope Zverev can afford BB in the future or perhaps BB should compromise and see the potential in Zverev? It's an open offer after all.
Sorry to being this up myself, but maybe Murray hiring Becker would be just the inner fire Novak needs at the moment.
 
Alex .... just quit altogether ...... you remind me of the 1970s + 80s German Soccer teams ...... ARDUOS TO WATCH !!!! ...... or you could do some introspection and figure out just how to EXPRESS YOURSELF !!!


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Big_Dangerous

Talk Tennis Guru
Sponsors don't make you pay to promote their gear. They pay you. Zverev is a brand ambassador for RM.

That's my whole point though... If he's that hard up for cash and wants a coach, why not sell his million or 800 thousand dollar watch to the highest bidder and then use that money to invest in his future? As if anyone needs a Richard Mille or Rolex to play tennis...
 

Lukhas

Legend
That's my whole point though... If he's that hard up for cash and wants a coach, why not sell his million or 800 thousand dollar watch to the highest bidder and then use that money to invest in his future? As if anyone needs a Richard Mille or Rolex to play tennis...
His sponsor his paying him to wear it, not to sell it. Also, good luck getting any future sponsorships if you sell what they ask you to use.
 

Big_Dangerous

Talk Tennis Guru
His sponsor his paying him to wear it, not to sell it. Also, good luck getting any future sponsorships if you sell what they ask you to use.

Yeah I guess that's true, but why not use his sponsorship money then? Also, didn't Nadal have one of his Richard Mille's stolen a few years ago and it was never recovered. Imagine having to tell them that you lost a watch worth hundreds of thousands of dollars because it was stolen from the locker room.
 

Lukhas

Legend
Yeah I guess that's true, but why not use his sponsorship money then? Also, didn't Nadal have one of his Richard Mille's stolen a few years ago and it was never recovered. Imagine having to tell them that you lost a watch worth hundreds of thousands of dollars because it was stolen from the locker room.
He just said he can't afford it regardless of that.
YAlso, didn't Nadal have one of his Richard Mille's stolen a few years ago and it was never recovered. Imagine having to tell them that you lost a watch worth hundreds of thousands of dollars because it was stolen from the locker room.
You can easily suppose that having Nadal wear the watch is more valuable to them than the watch itself. Think about it: Wilson took the plane from Chicago to Switzerland (or wherever Federer was at that time) to make him try new racquets and customise them between training sessions. Surely that seems a bit excessive right? Well not at all: Federer is worth a lot more to Wilson than the racquets they give him or than a plane trip to Switzerland, a pack of lead tape and a bottle of silicone. Federer brings them much, much more money and recognition than he costs them.

That's really the gist of sponsorships: it's a relationship between you and a company. Both of you must be getting something out of it. And for a company to give you discounted or even free stuff, you must be more valuable to them than the cost of the stuff they give to you. Same when a player gets paid to appear at a specific tournament. Now, if Nadal was losing a lot of watches, RM would most likely become suspicious, but it doesn't seem to be the case.
 
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Zara

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Sorry to being this up myself, but maybe Murray hiring Becker would be just the inner fire Novak needs at the moment.

I'd say Djokovic is in a much better place than this - more matured. He'll be completely fine with it if Murray indeed hires Becker. It's his love for tennis, the joy that he experiences when he wins a Slam, when he comes out of a very competitive match winning, the crowd cheering for him etc., that should bring him back.
 

clayqueen

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An honest Alexander Zverev has admitted that he can't afford Boris Becker at the moment but would love to work with a great champion like him in the future.

''Boris could definitely help me to improve my game, but if I want to work with him, first I have to win some tournaments because at the moment I cannot afford it. So if I wanted to do it, I would have to wait at least a couple of years.''

http://www.**************.org/news/...-to-hire-boris-becker-but-i-can-t-afford-it-/
So he's not planning to win many tournaments for at least a couple of years. :::::)
 

Big_Dangerous

Talk Tennis Guru
He just said he can't afford it regardless of that.

You can easily suppose that having Nadal wear the watch is more valuable to them than the watch itself. Think about it: Wilson took the plane from Chicago to Switzerland (or wherever Federer was at that time) to make him try new racquets and customise them between training sessions. Surely that seems a bit excessive right? Well not at all: Federer is worth a lot more to Wilson than the racquets they give him or than a plane trip to Switzerland, a pack of lead tape and a bottle of silicone. Federer brings them much, much more money and recognition than he costs them.

That's really the gist of sponsorships: it's a relationship between you and a company. Both of you must be getting something out of it. And for a company to give you discounted or even free stuff, you must be more valuable to them than the cost of the stuff they give to you. Same when a player gets paid to appear at a specific tournament. Now, if Nadal was losing a lot of watches, RM would most likely become suspicious, but it doesn't seem to be the case.

Just seems a little hard to believe, because he's had reasonable amount of success, though his career is in it's infancy right now. But despite that, he's sponsored by a few companies, Richard Mille and Adidas to name just a couple, so unless Boris would be charging an arm and a leg, I can't see why he couldn't afford Boris, at least for a few months to try it and see if they work well together.
 

maratha_warrior

Hall of Fame
Sorry to being this up myself, but maybe Murray hiring Becker would be just the inner fire Novak needs at the moment.

I dont think BB wud ever Coach Novak's rivals ever.. He seems to be a loyal friend .. Hiring BB as a coach was as helpful to Boris as it was to Novak.His fitness improved and he seems to love to be in djokovic Camp.
BB was never shy to play mind games with even "Roger " which I think noone else on the tour would dare to do ( remembr the Sabr and potshots on Roger ).. Boris really was commited with Novak . I cant get over the disappointment that , how cud Novak affod to lose such a Friend, Coach and Strong personality so easily..
Roger or Nadal wud never have splitted wid Boris , if they had such a Coach and former Champ alongside..
 

mike danny

Bionic Poster
I dont think BB wud ever Coach Novak's rivals ever.. He seems to be a loyal friend .. Hiring BB as a coach was as helpful to Boris as it was to Novak.His fitness improved and he seems to love to be in djokovic Camp.
BB was never shy to play mind games with even "Roger " which I think noone else on the tour would dare to do ( remembr the Sabr and potshots on Roger ).. Boris really was commited with Novak . I cant get over the disappointment that , how cud Novak affod to lose such a Friend, Coach and Strong personality so easily..
Roger or Nadal wud never have splitted wid Boris , if they had such a Coach and former Champ alongside..
Why did Djoker split with him in the first place? Did he give any specific reason?
 
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Zara

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I dont think BB wud ever Coach Novak's rivals ever.. He seems to be a loyal friend .. Hiring BB as a coach was as helpful to Boris as it was to Novak.His fitness improved and he seems to love to be in djokovic Camp.
BB was never shy to play mind games with even "Roger " which I think noone else on the tour would dare to do ( remembr the Sabr and potshots on Roger ).. Boris really was commited with Novak . I cant get over the disappointment that , how cud Novak affod to lose such a Friend, Coach and Strong personality so easily..
Roger or Nadal wud never have splitted wid Boris , if they had such a Coach and former Champ alongside..

The need for Becker simply expired for Djokovic. He wouldn't be able to create the magic again and keep Djokovic on his toes. That's why he had to go because Djokovic felt that way. It's not about how we feel about this partnership but rather how the player feels about it. It's now entirely up to Nole to hire someone he feels would be the right person for him given the stage he is in. Jamie Delgado is doing wonders for Murray so it doesn't have to be a big profile player like BB or Lendl. He can have someone as simple as Delgado or Annacone.
 

Noelan

Legend
Djokovic didn't wear such expensive watch at age 19. Speaking publicly aboout money won't get him Boris .This would mean that Boris lowered his criteria. Bad move Sasha
 

Fridge

Professional
Boris would be smart to join the team. Money shouldn't be an issue for someone like him and I would think that having a coach from the same country would help young Zverev.
 

maratha_warrior

Hall of Fame
Why did Djoker split with him in the first place? Did he give any specific reason?

I have read all interviews of Boris after split.. and even Vajda's interviews..Boris clearly mentioned Novak and Jelena didnt spend enough time together during his 2 year Dominance in 15-16.. And the reason is BB as a coach mi8 hve been strict abt daily training schedules and strategy which made Djokovic the dominating Champ he was in 15-16. And if I remember properly Vajda was nt much involved in the core team in 15-16 ,he was a side kick.. After French Open Novak had to chose between his training schedule or family and the thorn between them was BB.. Simple
BB clearly mentioned this many times in interviews..
Worst thing is now Novak doesnot even care about Slam record.. Win or lose but ATG should not have such an average goal ..
 

maratha_warrior

Hall of Fame
The need for Becker simply expired for Djokovic. He wouldn't be able to create the magic again and keep Djokovic on his toes. That's why he had to go because Djokovic felt that way. It's not about how we feel about this partnership but rather how the player feels about it. It's now entirely up to Nole to hire someone he feels would be the right person for him given the stage he is in. Jamie Delgado is doing wonders for Murray so it doesn't have to be a big profile player like BB or Lendl. He can have someone as simple as Delgado or Annacone.

Sorry Zara but I disagree wid you.. People do engage in business ,that true.. But Boris forged good frndship and seems to like his student genuinely.. Go through interviews of Boris and Novak..its clear..
After RG 16 win,Novak had to choose between Strict training schedule wid Boris at the helm ,or a light schedule with enough time to spend wid Jelena and kid along wid friend Vajda as a part-time Coach..
Novak choose the latter..
Boris transformed a great player into an ATG and one of the greatests ever.
He didnt allow Novak to aim less which he can do in presence of friend Vajda. Simple !
 

ChanceEncounter

Professional
Just seems a little hard to believe, because he's had reasonable amount of success, though his career is in it's infancy right now. But despite that, he's sponsored by a few companies, Richard Mille and Adidas to name just a couple, so unless Boris would be charging an arm and a leg, I can't see why he couldn't afford Boris, at least for a few months to try it and see if they work well together.
Because you can't just take the watch Richard Mille gives him to promote and sell it to pay Boris Becker?

Or maybe you're reading this too literally. I'm sure if you named a serious luxury item (e.g. a Ferrari, a Richard Mille watch, etc), you *could* pay for it. You could take out a loan with a long term payment plan, and if you aren't living in a third world country or have no income, you could probably cobble together enough money to afford any luxury item you can list. But the question is if that item would offer you the utility enough to justify such a hefty expense.

It's like no one on this forum understands finance. Which doesn't surprise me, actually.
 

Big_Dangerous

Talk Tennis Guru
Because you can't just take the watch Richard Mille gives him to promote and sell it to pay Boris Becker?

Or maybe you're reading this too literally. I'm sure if you named a serious luxury item (e.g. a Ferrari, a Richard Mille watch, etc), you *could* pay for it. You could take out a loan with a long term payment plan, and if you aren't living in a third world country or have no income, you could probably cobble together enough money to afford any luxury item you can list. But the question is if that item would offer you the utility enough to justify such a hefty expense.

It's like no one on this forum understands finance. Which doesn't surprise me, actually.

This was established in a previous post.

I was talking about the money he gets from those companies that sponsor him. I get that they pay him to wear the watch and that it doesn't really belong to him, probably something in his deal that once their sponsorship ends, the watch has to be returned to them, but I'm sure he gets a nice stipend from them and from his other sponsors.
 

ChanceEncounter

Professional
This was established in a previous post.

I was talking about the money he gets from those companies that sponsor him. I get that they pay him to wear the watch and that it doesn't really belong to him, probably something in his deal that once their sponsorship ends, the watch has to be returned to them, but I'm sure he gets a nice stipend from them and from his other sponsors.
Of course he gets a stipend. Doesn't mean that it's particularly substantial, or that it's worth it for him to break the bank to hire a coach with no guarantee to recoup his investment.

The point he's making isn't that it would literally be impossible, with all manner of financing available and going for broke, to hire Becker. But that at this point he is not financially established enough to warrant taking the chance.
 
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Zara

Guest
Sorry Zara but I disagree wid you.. People do engage in business ,that true.. But Boris forged good frndship and seems to like his student genuinely.. Go through interviews of Boris and Novak..its clear..
After RG 16 win,Novak had to choose between Strict training schedule wid Boris at the helm ,or a light schedule with enough time to spend wid Jelena and kid along wid friend Vajda as a part-time Coach..
Novak choose the latter..
Boris transformed a great player into an ATG and one of the greatests ever.
He didnt allow Novak to aim less which he can do in presence of friend Vajda. Simple !

They say the teacher only arrives when the student is ready. Novak was ready before but he is no longer in the same frame of mind so even if Becker sticks around, I don't think it will get the desired results.

Although I'd love for Djokovic to come back in the way he was. It's looking a little suspect right now. Some of us sort of wrote him off when he had a flat year in 2010 but he came back strong the next year. Hopefully the tide will turn again and Nole will find a reason to be competitive again.
 

maratha_warrior

Hall of Fame
They say the teacher only arrives when the student is ready. Novak was ready before but he is no longer in the same frame of mind so even if Becker sticks around, I don't think it will get the desired results.

Although I'd love for Djokovic to come back in the way he was. It's looking a little suspect right now. Some of us sort of wrote him off when he had a flat year in 2010 but he came back strong the next year. Hopefully the tide will turn again and Nole will find a reason to be competitive again.

As a Novak Fan , my only wish is to see him fight for Slam titles with all his might.. Win or lose doesnot matter.
Effort does !
 

Mainad

Bionic Poster
Gotta feed that belly and pay his bills for his houses, parties, etc. somehow :p

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Mostly his belly though

It's a dirty job but someone's gotta do it! :D

Actually his belly doesn't look too bad (unless he's holding it in for the camera). ;)
 

SpinToWin

Talk Tennis Guru
It's a dirty job but someone's gotta do it! :D

Actually his belly doesn't look too bad (unless he's holding it in for the camera). ;)
He takes the burden of obesity so that we mustn't suffer through it! What a hero!!

Though... I'd have thought that the almighty black hole sureshs would be enough :eek:

And yeah clearly BB is holding it in haha
 

Mainad

Bionic Poster
I wonder if Murray would be interested in hiring Becker. Lendl was good for him back then but I am not sure if he brought anything new this time. Didn't like the way Andy got distracted against Nishikori at the USO and I don't think it was addressed properly since then. Though Andy did pretty good at WTF especially in the final.

Also the 1st serve needs work - need to be more consistent so that he won't have to rely on his 2nd too much. The 2nd needs a bit of work too though it has apparently improved over the last few months, I still don't find it reliable. Zverev punished it quite a bit at AO. Murray though hinted recently that he was ill prepared for the AO but still. I just want his serves to be more reliable because that's all he needs. He finds lots of confidence when he serves well (or perhaps vice versa) and that helps rest of his game.

Anyway, I think Becker can help in those regards. Sampras would be ideal but that's probably far fetched.

Sorry for making this all about Murray. Hope Zverev can afford BB in the future or perhaps BB should compromise and see the potential in Zverev? It's an open offer after all.

I'm not at all easy at the thought of him parting with Lendl again just yet but, should it come to pass, (and it has done so before), then I also wondered if he might hook up with Boris if the latter is still available. After all, Boris helped Novak to double his number of Slams. Would be fantastic if he could do the same for Andy! ;)
 

MLRoy

Hall of Fame
Gotta feed that belly and pay his bills for his houses, parties, etc. somehow :p

becker.jpg


Mostly his belly though
Even sadder, it looks like he's sucking "it" in. Yikes. THIS is why God invented tshirts... and caftans.
Das Kid, stick with your old man. You'll be fine. Only someone with too much money would pay fees like his. (Who were BB coaches? Get them!)
 

SpinToWin

Talk Tennis Guru
Even sadder, it looks like he's sucking "it" in. Yikes. THIS is why God invented tshirts... and caftans.
Das Kid, stick with your old man. You'll be fine. Only someone with too much money would pay fees like his. (Who were BB coaches? Get them!)
When you hear him speak about tennis (especially in German TV).... well, that's plenty to know he's probably not worth his money :D
 

Fabolous-vs

New User
When you hear him speak about tennis (especially in German TV).... well, that's plenty to know he's probably not worth his money :D
This isn't true. He received a lot of positive feedback in Germany for his role as a TV host (Eurosport) at the Australian Open. Maybe you have memories from 10-15 years ago where his public standing was indeed not the best given is extensive lifestyle at this time.
 

SpinToWin

Talk Tennis Guru
This isn't true. He received a lot of positive feedback in Germany for his role as a TV host (Eurosport) at the Australian Open. Maybe you have memories from 10-15 years ago where his public standing was indeed not the best given is extensive lifestyle at this time.
Positive feedback =/= insightful commentary.

I watched the whole AO here in german, and I wasn't especially impressed with his commentary.
 
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