inflation_era
Professional
Shapo, Tse Tse fly and Berreterrible. LOLLLLLLL
Alexander Zverev is the new #2
- Thread starter Dominic & Andrey
- Start date
Shapo, Tse Tse fly and Berreterrible. LOLLLLLLL
nolefam_2024
Bionic Poster
nolefam_2024
Bionic Poster
Last year I think zverev beat around Carlos badly in ATP finals
helterskelter
G.O.A.T.
If he is able to hold #2 through the tour finals, then year-end #2 will be a milestone, as his highest year-end finish is #3.
He's 505 points ahead of Alcaraz, and Alcaraz isn't that great indoors. He has a good chance.
Winner Sinner
Hall of Fame
In Rome both Sinner and Alcaraz were missing, in Bercy both Sinner and Djokovic.
Zverev also BO3 can only dominate when there are illustrious absentees.
nolefam_2024
Bionic Poster
Beat Carlos and get h2h as well
Right. I think it would be funny if 3-0 crowd has no place to hide
tennistiger
Professional
Zverev and Alcaraz now battle in real for No 1 if you consider Sinners very possible ban next year even If it is at a minimum of 6 month.
ChrisJR3264
Hall of Fame
I see zverev potentially playing sinner in the atp finals.
Zverev’s hiccup is medvedev who is projected to be slotted in his group (2/4/6/8). It’s a mental nightmare for him. But med also hasnt been healthy most of the year.
Zverev’s hiccup is medvedev who is projected to be slotted in his group (2/4/6/8). It’s a mental nightmare for him. But med also hasnt been healthy most of the year.
Enceladus
Legend
It is strange that a tennis player who gained the Channel Slam was not at least second in the ranking, let alone first. This shows how uneven Carlos' 2024 season is. I think Carlos's confidence is fickle, losing to Djoker in the Olympics final obviously threw him off the saddle, and losing to Nolo last year in Cincinnati had a similar effect.
nolefam_2024
Bionic Poster
That's an anamoly.
Either Carlos becomes far too consistent next year or goes slamless or 1 slam . This won't continue at all. 2024 is anamoly.
travlerajm
Talk Tennis Guru
This achievement ( year end #2 ahead of a guy who won both RG and Wimbledon ) highlights Zverev’s history as a Bo3 specialist.
nolefam_2024
Bionic Poster
This is as rubbish as possible
| Player | Out of slams | Total Possible | Ratio % | In slams | Total Possible | Ratio % |
| Zverev | 4855 | 13000 | 37% | 2460 | 8000 | 31% |
| Alcaraz | 2360 | 13000 | 18% | 4450 | 8000 | 56% |
Zverev is not BO3 specialist. Alcaraz has won a lot in BO5
Raz has been down 2 sets to 1 three times, its been huge luck to win all 3 and get 2 slams.
Zverev is no BO3 specialist. Slams have way too much weightage.
nolefam_2024
Bionic Poster
Freaking 18% outside slams at age 21. Raz fans should be ashamed before hurling stones.
travlerajm
Talk Tennis Guru
The data above showing Zverev performs better outside of slams supports the statement that he is a Bo3 specialist.
nolefam_2024
Bionic Poster
The data shows Zverev performs just as well outside as inside. Do not try to fool the members
nolefam_2024
Bionic Poster
Raz fans should not try to get cute. The guy is just 21.
He is not like Big 3 in their late 30s that he can only focus on slams. He is not that old and his legacy is not that secured. It takes a decade plus of GOATing before you can pick and choose where to peak. Got insanely lucky this year. Get better now.
He is not like Big 3 in their late 30s that he can only focus on slams. He is not that old and his legacy is not that secured. It takes a decade plus of GOATing before you can pick and choose where to peak. Got insanely lucky this year. Get better now.
Baghdatis, Philippoussis, Speedy Gonzalez, Pigeon Hewitt and Roddick, ROTFLMAO
inflation_era
Professional
24>>>205-4
inflation_era
Professional
24>>>20
Sure but that's because of Tse Tse Fly and Berreterrible, LOLLLLLL. Who gets more slams after 30 than before? Beneficiary of the weakest era in history.
Sudacafan
Bionic Poster
I am keeping my ABZ card, just in case.
Sure, with Baghdatis, Philippoussis, pigeon Hewitt & Roddick, Speedy Gonzalez, Federer only managed to get 20. ROTFLMAO
24 >>> 20
Tennfan123
Legend
I hope zod makes no.1.
that will close the case on if this is the weakest era of all time or not.
that will close the case on if this is the weakest era of all time or not.
InsuranceMan
Hall of Fame
Winner Sinner
Hall of Fame
But it doesn't work like that. The draw is divided into groups;
First band
1/2
Second tier
3/4
Third tier
5/6
Fourth band
7/8
Each pair from one group can take anyone from the other 3 groups in the group. To put it paradoxically, tds n.1 could get 3, 5 and 7.
So there is a 50% chance that Medvedev will end up in Sinner's group, and a 50% chance that he will end up in Zverev's group.
Having said that, the recent history between Zverev and Medvedev, especially after Zverev's injury at RG 22, shows how the German suffers from Medvedev, but frankly I doubt that the Medvedev seen in recent months could start as the favorite in a possible match between the 2.
After all, Zverev also suffered in the matchup with Tsitsipas but in the recent match in Bercy he got rid of him rather easily (also taking advantage of an existential crisis that continues for the Greek).
travlerajm
Talk Tennis Guru
Short hair Tsitsipas’ level should not be compared to the full Jesus version.
inflation_era
Professional
Sure, with Baghdatis, Philippoussis, pigeon Hewitt & Roddick, Speedy Gonzalez, Federer only managed to get 20. ROTFLMAO
24 >>> 20
Exactly, because Fed's competition was better, many of whom own Djokovic. Djokovic getting more slams after 30 than before proves his stats are just accumulated due to incompetent competition. LOLLLLLLLLL
Baghdatis, Gonzalez, Phillipoussis, all never win Grand Slam.
Djokovic beat Slam champions Alcaraz, Medvedev, Sinner, to win Slam titles.
24 >>>> 20
GloW
Professional
zverev alcaraz this year: 1-2
Sinner Alcaraz this year: 0-3
I Am Finnish
Bionic Poster
TTW doesn't care
GloW
Professional
your throwing rocks at yourself, feds peak was thw weakest era in history.
GloW
Professional
80+ replies proves otherwise
Vito Andolini
New User
I generally feel great about Zverev's expectations for himself rising high.
Winner Sinner
Hall of Fame
Tournaments played simultaneously by Sinner and Zverev in this 2024=11, the times in these 11 tournaments in which Sinner finished ahead of Zverev=10.
Sinner beat opponents who had previously eliminated Zverev in the final 4 times, vs Medvedev at the Australian Open, vs Dimitrov in Miami, vs Hurkacz in Halle, vs Fritz at the US Open.
Direct clashes between the 2 in 2024, 1-0 Sinner.
Points difference currently in the race= 3000.
Slams won this season 2-0 Sinner.
Tournaments won this season 7-2 Sinner.
Post US Open 2023, all the times they could have met but this did not happen due to Zverev's defeats in the previous round;
Beijing 2023 final Zverev gets eliminated in SF by Medvedev.
Vienna 2023 semi-final, Zverev is eliminated in the QF by Rublev.
Turin 2023 semi-final, Zverev is eliminated in the rr by Alcaraz.
Australian Open 2024 final, Zverev is eliminated by Medvedev in sf.
Indian Wells 2024 semi-final, Zverev is eliminated by Alcaraz in the QF.
Miami final, Zverev gets eliminated by Dimitrov in sf.
Halle final, Zverev gets eliminated in sf by Hurkacz.
Post US Open 2023, all the times they could have met but this did not happen due to Sinner's defeats in the previous round;
Final of Roland Garros 2024, Sinner is eliminated by Alcaraz in sf.
Let's hope that Zverev will be present in Turin. The time has come to reverse an h2h between the two which is very out of place for what is the real difference in values between the 2.
Funny how even a thread on Zverev as #2 turns into a Big3 weak era threadBaghdatis, Gonzalez, Phillipoussis, all never win Grand Slam.
Djokovic beat Slam champions Alcaraz, Medvedev, Sinner, to win Slam titles.
24 >>>> 20
travlerajm
Talk Tennis Guru
It’s because Z is obviously so flawed. Yet there he is!Funny how even a thread on Zverev as #2 turns into a Big3 weak era thread
johnmccabe
Hall of Fame
came a little late. Thought he would have got here 2 years earlier.
nolefam_2024
Bionic Poster
JoelSandwich
Hall of Fame
Right because watching Berretini unable to hit a backhand, Medvedev unable to attack short balls from geriatrics and Djokovic winning nearly every slam as an ancient fossil is so much better. What does it say about Djokovic that he lost countless times to old fed in bo3 during his peak and multiple times to post prime fed during his peak at majors lol.
Hitman
Bionic Poster
inflation_era
Professional
Baghdatis, Gonzalez, Phillipoussis, all never win Grand Slam.
Djokovic beat Slam champions Alcaraz, Medvedev, Sinner, to win Slam titles.
24 >>>> 20
Safin and Roddick both slam champions. They own Djokovic, LOLLLLLLL
inflation_era
Professional
No, you have rocks for brains.
Safin and Roddick both slam champions. They own Djokovic, LOLLLLLLL
Dominik Hrbaty owns Federer
Djokovic owns Federer
Hardcourt Slam h2h: Djokovic 7 vs Federer 4
Wimbledon h2h: Djokovic 3 vs Federer 1
All matches h2h: Djokovic 27 vs Federer 23
Federer's Baghdatis, Philippoussis, Gonzalez is the weakest era ever.
24>>>20
Similar threads
- Poll
