Alexander Zverev more boring than Novak Djokovic and Andy Murray

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Hi folks,
am I the only to think that about Alexander Zverev?
Last time I was watching a match involving him. And I find his tennis extremely bland, absolutely nothing to go crazy about...to the point that I'd rather watch a match involving Novak Djokovic or even Andy Murray.
I hope he does not dominate the tour soon, and would much prefer Thiem or Rublev to become number 1 in two or three years.
My 2 cents.
 
I'll get flamed for this, but it's the culmination of the 'new game' (due to equipment). If I'm a kid Sasha's age and want a nice 10+ year career making eight figures all in, it's hard not to copy Djoker, Murray et al. Serve big enough to hold every time and then beat balls until the other guy makes the mistake. Even NK has toned down a bit during just this season...seems to do his best to 'not make the mistake' from behind the wide stripe.

Give me a game like Fed's any day (to watch or play).
 
Zverev will be playing with a handicap after his Laver Cup win against Querry. Gamblestumps nose was so far up Zverev's azz there's a possibility it broke off up there.
 
KingKyrgios said:
Not sure it can get any more boring than Murray but i do think youre on point here ;)
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I dislike Zverev's body language on court. Before every serve he lifts up his shirt in a weird, unpleasant way. Yeah, Rafa's pre-serve ritual is annoying, but he has 16 slams in the bag and can basically do whatever he wants. He's earned the right to be OCD on court since his game speaks for itself. I also despise Z's constant fist pumping, including fist pumping on opponent's DF's, which bugs. He struts around like he's won the CYGS or has a yearly record of 94-3.

Let him win some big titles before being carried away with his own ego. And if I hear one more time, "I have put on 20 pounds of muscle in the past year," I'm going to throw up. Enough is enough.
 
BeatlesFan said:
I dislike Zverev's body language on court. Before every serve he lifts up his shirt in a weird, unpleasant way. Yeah, Rafa's pre-serve ritual is annoying, but he has 16 slams in the bag and can basically do whatever he wants. He's earned the right to be OCD on court since his game speaks for itself. I also despise Z's constant fist pumping, including fist pumping on opponent's DF's, which bugs. He struts around like he's won the CYGS or has a yearly record of 94-3.

Let him win some big titles before being carried away with his own ego. And if I hear one more time, "I have put on 20 pounds of muscle in the past year," I'm going to throw up. Enough is enough.
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Are you really hating him for having a pre-serve ritual and for the way he walks? :rolleyes: C'mon, I get you don't like the boy but at least come with something more sincere and valid than that, like the way he plays or the things he has said, otherwise, you make yourself look like you just have an agenda against him.

There's nothing wrong if someone has a pre-serve ritual as long as it doesn't take much time between each point, and lifting his shirt doesn't do that. He celebrates just as much as any other player out there, there's no standout in him about that. There's nothing particular about the way he moves on court, no indication that he's an arrogant idiot with an inflated ego. You're the only who has found those things because you want for them to be there, you're looking for more reasons to dislike him, but the truth is there's nothing there. Just admit you dislike his game and that's it.

Answering the OP: it all depends on the type of game you like to watch. Yes, he can be boring from time to time, especially if you compare him to someone like Andrey, but he doesn't come close to Djokovic and Murray, they're at a different level.
 
DerekNoleFam1 said:
Not particularly exciting to watch, although does have some good power and depth at times.
It is not about being aesthetically pleasing though, it is about results.
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For a tennis player it's all about results. The tour still needs some young talent that is exciting to watch and puts bums on seats. Zverev is not that man.

If everyone played like Carreno Busta no one would watch tennis! So having some exciting styles is important.
 
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SafinSucks said:
Hi folks,
am I the only to think that about Alexander Zverev?
Last time I was watching a match involving him. And I find his tennis extremely bland, absolutely nothing to go crazy about...to the point that I'd rather watch a match involving Novak Djokovic or even Andy Murray.
I hope he does not dominate the tour soon, and would much prefer Thiem or Rublev to become number 1 in two or three years.
My 2 cents.
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@TheGhostOfAgassi
 
George Turner said:
For a tennis player it's all about results. The tour still needs some young talent that is exciting to watch and puts bums on seats. Zverev is not that man.

If everyone played like Carreno Busta no one would watch tennis! So having some exciting styles is important.
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Good point. Knowing that Pablo Carreno-Busta is more exciting to watch than Alexander Zverev.
 
BeatlesFan said:
I dislike Zverev's body language on court. Before every serve he lifts up his shirt in a weird, unpleasant way. Yeah, Rafa's pre-serve ritual is annoying, but he has 16 slams in the bag and can basically do whatever he wants. He's earned the right to be OCD on court since his game speaks for itself. I also despise Z's constant fist pumping, including fist pumping on opponent's DF's, which bugs. He struts around like he's won the CYGS or has a yearly record of 94-3.

Let him win some big titles before being carried away with his own ego. And if I hear one more time, "I have put on 20 pounds of muscle in the past year," I'm going to throw up. Enough is enough.
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"I lost 1 pound of stomach acid in the past 15 seconds"
 
SafinSucks said:
Hi folks,
am I the only to think that about Alexander Zverev?
Last time I was watching a match involving him. And I find his tennis extremely bland, absolutely nothing to go crazy about...to the point that I'd rather watch a match involving Novak Djokovic or even Andy Murray.
I hope he does not dominate the tour soon, and would much prefer Thiem or Rublev to become number 1 in two or three years.
My 2 cents.
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Interesting POV. I don't find him boring, but I certainly don't find him as exciting as Kyrgios or Shapovalov. Also, perhaps it's just the way I "read" his behaviour, but he seems to come off as a bit arrogant, almost as if he is the rightful heir or something. Maybe I'm wrong. But, that's how he comes across to me.
 
SafinSucks said:
Hi folks,
am I the only to think that about Alexander Zverev?
Last time I was watching a match involving him. And I find his tennis extremely bland, absolutely nothing to go crazy about...to the point that I'd rather watch a match involving Novak Djokovic or even Andy Murray.
I hope he does not dominate the tour soon, and would much prefer Thiem or Rublev to become number 1 in two or three years.
My 2 cents.
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Basically Zverev is sort of a servebot version of Djokovic with a bit less defense in rallies, but better reach for returning. Zverev matches can be on the boring side, but unlike Djoko, the Zedbot owns all servebots with his reach on first return making him a class above Djokovic on returning their big serves. So yes Zverev is on the boring side, but at least he's destroying all the servebots at will, a great service to the game.:p
 
The game is going to be really take a hit when Federer retires. I'm praying someone comes along with some flair and creativity but I don't think its going to happen for along time. Federer is a once in a lifetime kind of player
 
Tiafoe, Thiem and Shapo are more watchable than Zverev.

Don't like Zverev. Djokovic is obv more watchable than all of those, esp at his peak.
 
The so-called 'next gen' players lack of style or creativity can most likely be attributed to the current coaching techniques and space age equipment. When you grab a kid at the age of 4 and start drilling him to be a robot, you're going to get this result. It's probably a conspiracy among the coaches to keep the style the same from player to player so the coaches all stay in demand. One break out player coached to use style and imagination would threaten the job security of the others. It also helps to have racquet development at the stage where that same 4yr old can hit a 95mph forehand.
 
BeatlesFan said:
I dislike Zverev's body language on court. Before every serve he lifts up his shirt in a weird, unpleasant way. Yeah, Rafa's pre-serve ritual is annoying, but he has 16 slams in the bag and can basically do whatever he wants. He's earned the right to be OCD on court since his game speaks for itself. I also despise Z's constant fist pumping, including fist pumping on opponent's DF's, which bugs. He struts around like he's won the CYGS or has a yearly record of 94-3.

Let him win some big titles before being carried away with his own ego. And if I hear one more time, "I have put on 20 pounds of muscle in the past year," I'm going to throw up. Enough is enough.
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Well, he won 2 Masters 1000s in the last few months at the tender age of 20 and beat Djokovic and Federer in the finals to boot so I think we can cut him a little slack if he chooses to express his ego a little! :cool:
 
Meles said:
Basically Zverev is sort of a servebot version of Djokovic with a bit less defense in rallies, but better reach for returning. Zverev matches can be on the boring side, but unlike Djoko, the Zedbot owns all servebots with his reach on first return making him a class above Djokovic on returning their big serves. So yes Zverev is on the boring side, but at least he's destroying all the servebots at will, a great service to the game.:p
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Honestly, I see no similarities whatsoever between Djokovic's game and Zverev's game. None. Zverev is much more aggressive and less defense-minded than Djokovic IMO.
 
What major weapons does Zverev have? None, he is good at everything but not great at any one thing. Djok and Murray have movement as their major weapons. kyrgios has the serve and general talent.
 
I do not think he will ruin tennis. He will be categorized as a boring player, in the murray/djokovic way. Middle aged women like him, and teen gurlz worship him, so i think his popularity will only surge. They might cry when he finally cuts the hair.
He will be an excellent counterpoint to the more interesting tennis of thiem and shapovalov.
Off the court, his public persona will be well-crafted. He has a lot going for him.

That said...

Allez Shapo! Go Thiem!
It is always such a pleasure to see a stylish shotmaker beat a solid player.
 
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Mainad said:
Well, he won 2 Masters 1000s in the last few months at the tender age of 20 and beat Djokovic and Federer in the finals to boot so I think we can cut him a little slack if he chooses to express his ego a little! :cool:
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There’s one problem, in GS play. FAIL.
 
TheGhostOfAgassi said:
What makes him more arrogant than for example Thiem and Shapo?
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Not sure about Shapo, but I've met both Thiem and Zverev (the latter one twice). Zverev was so far up his own rear, even with 18, I was surprised he didn't take off like a hot air balloon with all of that steaming **** he was spewing. Thiem was a down to earth nice fellow.

Yeah, Zverev hasn't left a good impression on me. In particular his behaviour towards chair umps and line judges rubbed me wrong. Beyond that he has the level of charm of a prickly sea urchin dumped in nuclear waste.
 
TheGhostOfAgassi said:
Guys, better start opening up for Alexander the great, as he will do big things in tenns ;)

No other youngster the same league and have a more complete game than him.
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I wish he wasn't that tall. He's very professional and does "all the right things" with a right mindset but his height is still very suspect for an ATG career and longetivity at the top. Will he be the first one?
 
SpinToWin said:
Not sure about Shapo, but I've met both Thiem and Zverev (the latter one twice). Zverev was so far up his own rear, even with 18, I was surprised he didn't take off like a hot air balloon with all of that steaming **** he was spewing. Thiem was a down to earth nice fellow.

Yeah, Zverev hasn't left a good impression on me. In particular his behaviour towards chair umps and line judges rubbed me wrong. Beyond that he has the level of charm of a prickly sea urchin dumped in nuclear waste.
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He is very similar to Shapo in his behavior, in fact Shapo is worse.

But I dont care. He is not like certain someone that stares down the opponent or doing nasty mind games.
He is young, and a very good player for his age, can make the best person a bit of a narcissist. His family doing their best to keep him grounded, but they are not as strict as Toni and Rafas family. Sasha will never be humble like him. And its fine with me. I love when he doesnt break down like many others playing the big guys. He was icy cold taking down Novak in Rome and Federer too.
He will win slams, better get ready for it :D
 
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