All Big tournaments Djokovic would have to skip without the certificate

[bigjimbofan]

Sounds like he made a pretty dumb decision then

In time, that may be the wisest decision he and anyone else who did not get the jab has ever made. Do you people seriously think population control billionaires like Bill Gates, Big Pharma, big government and low level beaurocratic pawns like Anthony Fauci have your best interests at heart ? I think there are some dollar signs going on here.

 

[Arak]

Like I said, it's pretty much get vaccinated or be forced into retirement for Novak. Not much of a choice here, is there?

That sums it up pretty well.

 

[bigjimbofan]

Like I said, it's pretty much get vaccinated or be forced into retirement for Novak. Not much of a choice here, is there?

No choice but do not weep for Novak. He has a great life in the grand scheme of things. I admire him for his stance.

 

[Diminic D'Coco]

So, is the whole planet banana?

Yes. You and team "no devils juice in my arm" are the only clairvoyants.

all the rest are either sheep or corrupt. thank god we have geniuses like you and that millionaire from monaco who never even finished high school....

 

[intrepidish]

In time, that may be the wisest decision he and anyone else who did not get the jab has ever made. Do you people seriously think population control billionaires like Bill Gates, Big Pharma, big government and low level beaurocratic pawns like Anthony Fauci have your best interests at heart ? I think there are some dollar signs going on here.

What do you think Bill Gates has to do with researchers at the Cuban national health Institute, the Pasteur Institute in France, researchers in China, Venezuela, Japan and Argentina not to mention thousands of other university researchers all throughout the world who have generated a very high level of consensus?

 

[Zara]

I am living in reality but I fear that a lot of Novak fans don't think like me, they think like him and perhaps his own thoughts might get him in more trouble.

It's not that, really. Most Novak fans probably don't want to impose their opinion on him. Let the man decide what's important to him otherwise I find fans are trying to control his life.

It's a matter of personal choice and not what most want for him.

 

[flanker2000fr]

In time, that may be the wisest decision he and anyone else who did not get the jab has ever made. Do you people seriously think population control billionaires like Bill Gates, Big Pharma, big government and low level beaurocratic pawns like Anthony Fauci have your best interests at heart ? I think there are some dollar signs going on here.

Wow, you are so clever! I never thought about it this way! Do you know where I can get these 5G microchips they injected into me removed?

 

[bigjimbofan]

What do you think Bill Gates has to do with researchers at the Cuban national health Institute, the Pasteur Institute in France, researchers in China, Venezuela and Argentina not mention thousands of others all throughout the world who have generated a very high level of consensus?

Cuba ? France ? Venezuela LOL ! Bunch of commies and you must be one too.

 

[Ledigs]

The NBA is a private organization that has chosen to impose these rules. In the US our supreme court struck down Biden's attempt to force employers to require all employees to get a vaccine.

But Biden does still have much control on entry into the country. And as long as he is in charge I think Novak will need to get the vaccine:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/andyjs...-getting-a-covid-vaccination/?sh=7e1c7aa62e1e

I am not sure what the moral or religious exemption involves but I think that would be a risky route considering the current US government bureaucrats seem about as capricious as Australia's.

So why can Irving play away games but not in nyc ?

 

[intrepidish]

Wow, you are so clever! I never thought about it this way! Do you know where I can get these 5G microchips they injected into me removed?

Dr. Raoult of course...

 

[intrepidish]

Cuba ? France ? Venezuela LOL ! Bunch of commies and you must be one too.

Sure. A 'bunch of commies' whose researchers have generated the same consensus as those from Japan, the US, the UK etc

How do you explain that?

France = a bunch of commies was hilarious btw.

 

[Diminic D'Coco]

In time, that may be the wisest decision he and anyone else who did not get the jab has ever made. Do you people seriously think population control billionaires like Bill Gates, Big Pharma, big government and low level beaurocratic pawns like Anthony Fauci have your best interests at heart ? I think there are some dollar signs going on here.

you missed "woke", "Libs", "Cultural marxism", "snowflake". but you almost hit the right wing buzzword simpleton bingo

 

[Arak]

In time, that may be the wisest decision he and anyone else who did not get the jab has ever made. Do you people seriously think population control billionaires like Bill Gates, Big Pharma, big government and low level beaurocratic pawns like Anthony Fauci have your best interests at heart ? I think there are some dollar signs going on here.

I’m sorry, but at this point, it would be really silly not to see the benefits of the vaccines, especially for people in the high risk groups. Now, is there a lot of money involved, yes. Do manufacturers benefit from people getting more and more jabs, yes. Are the vaccines coming to a point that more does not give a clear benefit, yes. One has to see the big picture.

 

[intrepidish]

you missed "woke", "Libs", "Cultural marxism", "snowflake". but you almost hit the right wing buzzword simpleton bingo

He did tell me that France = commies though so he made up for lost time.

 

[norcal]

Sure. A 'bunch of commies' whose researchers have generated the same consensus as those from Japan, the US, the UK etc

How do you explain that?

France = a bunch of commies was hilarious btw.

I will refute your fact based argument in a minute; brb going to go diagnose my celiac's disease with a piece of bread!

 

[Adam Copeland]

It's not that, really. Most Novak fans probably don't want to impose their opinion on him. Let the man decide what's important to him otherwise I find fans are trying to control his life.

It's a matter of personal choice and not what most want for him.

He might want to retire tomorrow if forced to vaccinate ....

Should we as fans tolerate such a mentality and encourage that ?

At times we too have a vested interest in the journey of an athlete towards a goal and it would upset us deeply to see him/her waver from that vision towards a wrong path !!!

 

[Mustard]

Like I said, it's pretty much get vaccinated or be forced into retirement for Novak. Not much of a choice here, is there?

Thomas More chose to be executed rather than swear an oath that the English monarch was now the head of the Church in England instead of the Pope.

 

[happyandbob]

In time, that may be the wisest decision he and anyone else who did not get the jab has ever made. Do you people seriously think population control billionaires like Bill Gates, Big Pharma, big government and low level beaurocratic pawns like Anthony Fauci have your best interests at heart ? I think there are some dollar signs going on here.

yeah I keep waiting for the vaccine apocalypse you guys keep promising. It’s been over a year already. How much delay do you suppose they engineered into this vaccine before hearts start exploding?

 

[Arak]

Thomas More chose to be executed rather than swear an oath that the English monarch was now the head of the Church in England instead of the Pope.

So you advocate the kamikaze option?

 

[Zara]

He might want to retire tomorrow if forced to vaccinate ....

Should we as fans tolerate such a mentality and encourage that ?

At times we too have a vested interest in the journey of an athlete towards a goal and it would upset us deeply to see him/her waver from that vision towards a wrong path !!!

I am sure he'll be mindful of his fans before taking any decisions.

I do think fans associate themselves with the athletes and get far too involved than they need to be thus creating unnecessary pressure on the players. Which also gives birth to a lot of unfounded hatred (if you didn't like the player etc.). I am okay with him retiring as he pleases or whatever he decides. I don't own him. Relationships should be the same way too.

 

[Mustard]

So you advocate the kamikaze option?

No. It's up to Djokovic.

 

[norcal]

yeah I keep waiting for the vaccine apocalypse you guys keep promising. It’s been over a year already. How much delay do you suppose they engineered into this vaccine before hearts start exploding?

Be patient man, it's all interrelated!
First Obama and Killary will be imprisoned, then Trump reinstated as president. THEN we get the vaccaoypse. Tik-tok mofo, it's all a matter of time!

 

[Username_]

Tomic is goat

 

[Diminic D'Coco]

He did tell me that France = commies though so he made up for lost time.

dont let him know that the **** fascists lib commies of Saudi Arabia and Oman have just announced they will not allow cyclists entering the country for both tours, just like the **** fascists lib commies of France and Australia regarding both cycling and tennis....

he might not handle it well and throw you some "cuck" and "libtard" just for it alone...

 

[Djokovic_is_the_best#1]

No choice but do not weep for Novak. He has a great life in the grand scheme of things. I admire him for his stance.

Yeah I agree he has nothing more to prove. He should what’s best for him.

 

[TopspintheTerrible]

Cuba ? France ? Venezuela LOL ! Bunch of commies and you must be one too.

Lmao

 

[Gazelle]

That was true at the time of writing, in the sense that "France" had no vaccination requirements until the new law was passed

You already needed a covid safe ticket to access horeca and events in France. So you already needed to be vaccinated, unless you had negative test or prior infection.

They only changed it to pure vaccin pass, but France was already one of the stricter countries, so not sure why people had much hope. Germany and Italy are similar. And they're only becoming stricter. Not that different from Australia.

 

[Walrus Gumball]

Americans aren’t big tennis fans. If they aren’t letting NBA players play which is a much more popular sport, they won’t let djokovic play under the roof

NCAA just announced that natural immunity from a prior infection suffices, i.e. no need to "Vax.'" So that's progress in the USA.

 

[Drob]

Australian Open 2022: Novak Djokovic news | Rafael Nadal v Marcos Giron result, video, highlights

amp.nine.com.au

 

[T007]

He could get a few more timely exemptions for RG and maybe the US Open

And a few more embarrasing deportations.

 

[Moon Shooter]

So why can Irving play away games but not in nyc ?

Ok good point. If true then that is a matter of NY state or City law not the NBA - as I had wrongly thought. But it is also not Americans as a whole. I was responding to someone that said:

"Americans aren’t big tennis fans. If they aren’t letting NBA players play which is a much more popular sport, they won’t let djokovic play under the roof"

It is only certain Americans that live in New York and likely a few other big cities - I think Chicago has started draconian measures as well - that aren't letting NBA players play.

The views of American's on vaccine mandates is pretty varied. Some people think the government should require vaccines. Some people think the government should require that private companies can not require vaccines. Some people think all or certain private companies should mandate vaccines. Some people think private companies should not mandate vaccines.

I think it should be up to private businesses if they want to mandate vaccines or not and the government should stay out of it.

 

[sportsfan1]

He has 2 options now
- "Do a Tsitsipas" and get jabbed for the sake of being able to compete, even though he may not believe in it
- "Do a Sandgren" and only show up for Wimbledon and a couple of other choice events (though Sandgren probably also has scar tissue from his most recent outings at the AO)

He may do an option 3 - get a vaccine certificate, would be easy given his stature, and how would anyone/atp/itf be able to confirm/disprove it?

The tarnished legacy of Novak Djokovic | Tennis.com

His actions were so selfish, so tone deaf, so indifferent to the feelings of millions who have suffered through the pandemic, that it’s difficult to see him winning back the esteem he earned over the past few years.

www.tennis.com

 

[Ledigs]

Ok good point. If true then that is a matter of NY state or City law not the NBA - as I had wrongly thought. But it is also not Americans as a whole. I was responding to someone that said:

"Americans aren’t big tennis fans. If they aren’t letting NBA players play which is a much more popular sport, they won’t let djokovic play under the roof"

It is only certain Americans that live in New York and likely a few other big cities - I think Chicago has started draconian measures as well - that aren't letting NBA players play.

The views of American's on vaccine mandates is pretty varied. Some people think the government should require vaccines. Some people think the government should require that private companies can not require vaccines. Some people think all or certain private companies should mandate vaccines. Some people think private companies should not mandate vaccines.

I think it should be up to private businesses if they want to mandate vaccines or not and the government should stay out of it.

That’s nice but that is not how it works. Cities can decide whatever they want.

 

[mightyjeditribble]

To be honest, Covid immigration and vaccination rules could look very different by May depending on the way that the pandemic goes. Very little point in speculating, really.

 

[Moon Shooter]

That’s nice but that is not how it works. Cities can decide whatever they want.

Where did I say they couldn't?

It's not entirely true that "cities can decide whatever they want" but I am just curious what I said that lead to your comment.

 

[Moon Shooter]

To be honest, Covid immigration and vaccination rules could look very different by May depending on the way that the pandemic goes. Very little point in speculating, really.

You might think that would matter. But it seems the rules/politics is not very sensitive to the actual data or science. It is much more driven by emotions and virtue signaling.

 

[Ledigs]

Where did I say they couldn't?

It's not entirely true that "cities can decide whatever they want" but I am just curious what I said that lead to your comment.

The very idea that the government should let businesses decide is more of the sentiment in Florida. New Yorkers don’t believe that. That’s one difference between left and right in the US. So NY is not going to just let businesses decide matters of public health.

 

[One Handed Dynasty]

Wow, you are so clever! I never thought about it this way! Do you know where I can get these 5G microchips they injected into me removed?

Thanks for clearing this up. Much more clever to get a vaccine that doesn’t provide immunity or stop transmission for a coronavirus with a 99% survival rate.

 

[megamind]

Vaccination or retirement? What will Novak choose?

 

[King No1e]

Toronto will probably have a vaccine req if there isn't some major paradigm shift to "living with COVID" before then

 

[Mustard]

Vaccination or retirement? What will Novak choose?

I predict semi-retirement in 2022, and vaccination late in the year.

 

[Permitlady]

America let so many illegal immigrants in without documents let alone a vaccination. Djokovic will be hounded in countries without borders

 

[Diminic D'Coco]

So,

You might think that would matter. But it seems the rules/politics is not very sensitive to the actual data or science. It is much more driven by emotions and virtue signaling.

 

[TopspintheTerrible]

It’s def true in certain cases. There’s plenty of people who still believe lockdowns & school closures are necessary even though scientific consensus has rejected this. “Health experts” during the height of the pandemic endorsed massive protests which of course weren’t “superspreader events” cuz you know, reasons. The VP’s statements on the vaccine while T was still in office?

There are many examples of partisan politics affecting Covid policy. Not even remotely debatable.

 

[Diminic D'Coco]

It’s def true in certain cases. There’s plenty of people who still believe lockdowns & school closures are necessary even though scientific consensus has rejected this. “Health experts” during the height of the pandemic endorsed massive protests which of course weren’t “superspreader events” cuz you know, reasons. The VP’s statements on the vaccine while T was still in office?

There are many examples of politics affecting Covid policy. Not even remotely debatable.

yes. when a ORANGEutang was calling a virus that killed 5 million thus far as "the sniffles", it sure was political. health experts chancing their stance on a novel unknown virus is called Science. Take note you patriot you..

 

[TopspintheTerrible]

yes. when a ORANGEutang was calling a virus that killed 5 million thus far as "the sniffles", it sure was political. health experts chancing tehir stance on a novel virus is called Science. Take note you patriot you..

Oof what a comeback. Way to address the arguments. Try to spend two minutes of your life not thinking about an ex-president, it will do wonders for your brain.

 

[chrischris]

He has 2 options now
- "Do a Tsitsipas" and get jabbed for the sake of being able to compete, even though he may not believe in it
- "Do a Sandgren" and only show up for Wimbledon and a couple of other choice events (though Sandgren probably also has scar tissue from his most recent outings at the AO)

I don't know if he'll be prepared to get into another situation where he has to fight it out in court

Option 1,
Come down from the Imagined pedestal and take the shot. He will be just fine give him a lollipop as a treat when jabbed it can help.

 

[chrischris]

Wow, you are so clever! I never thought about it this way! Do you know where I can get these 5G microchips they injected into me removed?

If I got 3 shots my internet should be 15G. 3 times 5 is 15. Gee man!

 

[TopspintheTerrible]

deleted wrong thread

 

[-snake-]

America let so many illegal immigrants in without documents let alone a vaccination. Djokovic will be hounded in countries without borders

He's gonna have to get into the US a la Mexican.