All Pro Staff 85 editions in photos.

12oz

New User
There’s also the regular Japan only pro staff 85 with the words ‘db limited’ on the throat. This one weighs around 326g so similar to the lighter asian versions of the ps85.


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Pistol10

Professional
There’s also the regular Japan only pro staff 85 with the words ‘db limited’ on the throat. This one weighs around 326g so similar to the lighter asian versions of the ps85.

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The db limited was produced in 2000 I guess. The price of this one in Japan around 400$, much more expensive than St.vincent!

I'm looking for buying one it when I'll find one with a reasonable price.
 

Pistol10

Professional
Anyone heard about this midsize pro staff before, made in Taiwan, bumperless, 325g strung.

It's written "Junior Graphite" on the throat (from top, near the handle):

 

Pistol10

Professional
Thank you very much!!
nCode is paint job. Actually, 85 sq/in. 18x20.
Nice trick :giggle:.

Are those the same model with different pj?

18×20 for a midsize (85), that's strange! I guess it's too difficult to hit spin using these rackets.

What are the weight of each racket?
How do you rank them base on power level?
How do you rank them based on flexibility?
 

dnguyen

Hall of Fame
What if this one is the first batch that was produced in Taiwan after closing the factory in St.vincent? The one that was made of unidirectional graphite not braided.
You read my mind the other day until you posted it.

How will we know it is? That would be awesome if it does exist.
 

Pistol10

Professional


This one is perhaps one of my favourites along with PSC 6.1 85 pj

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This one is light, right? Is it more flexible than other chinese ps 6.0 85?

Very nice collection by the way (y).

I'll annoy you with my usual questions as what I did to the others :giggle:. Which one is the most flexible? Which one is liter? Which one is the most powerful?

I see all of it made in china except the classic one (made in Taiwan), right? Because the throat is narrower than others, specially the area between the throat & the handle.
 

12oz

New User
This one is light, right? Is it more flexible than other chinese ps 6.0 85?

Very nice collection by the way (y).

I'll annoy you with my usual questions as what I did to the others :giggle:. Which one is the most flexible? Which one is liter? Which one is the most powerful?

I see all of it made in china except the classic one (made in Taiwan), right? Because the throat is narrower than others, specially the area between the throat & the handle.
The Japan spec ones are definitely lighter. They have all come in weighing between 342g-345g strung. So green Sampras 85, PSC6.1 85 and hyper 85.

The others I haven’t gone round to weighing.

As for how they play and one being flexier than the other I can’t say. These are old racquets and I haven’t really tried playing with them.
 

wilson fan

New User
Hello everyone,
I would like to ask Pro Staff master. I got PS 6.6 Stars and Stripes 85sq/in. several days ago. According to my memory, I believed that the string pattern was only 16x18. However, that frame has 76 string holes of 18x20. Of course, I know that 95sq/in. was 18x20 string pattern. Does anyone know if this 85sq/in. 18x20 is a retail version, prototype or Pro Stock version? Although the shape looks like the throat is slightly angular compared to China production, the beam width is 20.5 mm for both frames.

Interestingly, Steffi Graf's Pro Staff 85sq/in. 18x20 grommet may fit.

 

myth

Rookie

I am not sure about this one.
Chicago or St Vincent?
 

Sanglier

Semi-Pro
It's almost certainly a "GMQ" (I say 'almost' only because there is no clear photo of the butt cap in this listing); the little squiggly tail is not always easy to make out. The letter "G" dates the frame to 1984, the "Q" indicates St Vincent manufacture.

PS85 were made in both Chicago and St Vincent in 1984; the ones finished in Chicago were stamped "G_I", those from St Vincent "G_Q". The middle letter ("M" in this case) was the lot identifier. The letter "G" became (erroneously) associated with Chicago among some collectors because 1984 was the only year PS85 were made there, so all Chicago-made PS85 with original butt caps were "G" stamped, even though "G" was never Chicago-specific.

Also, the code "GMO" could not have existed, because both letters "M" and "O" were only used as lot identifiers, and only frames made by Long-Y (Taiwan) had their lot identifier in the last position in 1984 (and their year identifier in the second position). In other words, the only valid code on a 1984 Wilson frame that had an "O" in the last position was "LGO" (at that time, SanHoSun, Wilson's main Taiwanese contractor, followed the same letter order as Chicago and St Vincent, so their production code for lot "O" from 1984 would have been "GOS". They didn't change their letter order to be the same as Long-Y's until 1986, the "J" year).
 

joe sch

Legend
How much is a Pete Sampras 1st St. Vincent manufacture worth? Based on the chart above it is a Version 3 in nice condition. The listing is also on **** for $5,000 however it may be signed. How much is Sampras signature worth?
Depends on condition and current market. Mint condition is worth a premium.
The player signatures do not increase the value like a racket from the players stock and then even lots more if it was played and of course what match it was played at. All this would need some COA otherwise its just a story.
 

joe sch

Legend
I bought two belgian made Pro Staff 85 rackets last summer.





There are some measurement data from last stringing (2007) on both of them. One is clearly visible, the other is faded. Both have leather grips, grip size 4.



Do you know whats this is? Crack under the paint?



Given its a Belgium version that did not have the red primer then the paint would probably not last as long especially at stress points like the throat junctions.
 
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