All the pressure is ON FEDERER at the U.S Open 10

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Facing the possibility of a career threatening and forever most talked about subject in tennis history, the tentatively titled, CAREER Slam domination of one of the greatest if not THE greatest rivalries of all time. Already 2-6 in gs, and 2-5 in GS finals, across all surfaces no less, Federer has his legacy at stake, no matter what happens, Nadal is and will probably always will be a taint on Fed's resume.

1. Federer is EXPECTED to WIN. His favourite surface (you know the one where he has won 48 matches out of 49? One of the FASTEST surface's on the tour (Fed's strength) v the player who CAN'T win on fast surfaces (least preferred).

2. Federer has yet to drop a set, he's looking in very prime form, remember he already has a sublime AO10 perfomance under his belt. NO EXCUSES.

3. Nadal would have 9 Slams, and catching up quick to the supposed GOAT, statisically, and already completed the career slam quciker than ANYBODY, by some margin. Nadal has longevity too, you can't dispute that to anyone who says he peaked earlier and will fade away earlier, first slam in 2005-2010+?.

4. Nadal isn't expected to win, because he has "no slam finals" v a 5 time champion who only lost because he "let" del potro win, right *******s? Still a 5time champion IS expected to win vs an upstart and a very average HC player right?

5. Fed will NEVER be GOAT after this match, if he loses.

6. The best Hardcourt player EVER who has yet to drop a set vs the clay court topspin monkey beaten in his own back yard?

7. There's more and it will be added later ;)
 
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Federer is 29 and Nadal is 24. It is a generation gap in terms of tennis.

So talk after Nadal gets 16 slams, 5-7 consecutive slam finals of each major.
 
1) Fed is not expected to win. He's the #2 in the world and Nadal is #1. Plus, the 14-7 H2H suggests Nadal is the clear favorite for this one.

2) Nadal hasn't dropped a set as well. True, this is Fed's best surface but that's what we all thought about Wimbledon and AO and looked what happened there.

3) True. If Nadal wins, he's got 9 and will be closer to Fed's 16. If Fed's wins, the gap goes back to 9, and it'll be tougher for Nadal to catch up, especially since Fed is still winning titles here and there and is still an active player.

4) Nadal didn't have a slam final at the AO before he took Fed in 5. So what? That's why you actually play matches. That's how Fed lost Wimbly 2008 despite being the clear favorite.

5) I don't think he's the GOAT now. Nadal isn't, either. Neither is Sampras, Laver, Borg, etc.

6) Indeed there is.
 
Let's see, 16 slams, career slam, nearly every record in the book, 29 and already talked of as 'declining'..


why exactly does Roger have pressure on him again?
 
P_Agony said:
1) Fed is not expected to win. He's the #2 in the world and Nadal is #1. Plus, the 14-7 H2H suggests Nadal is the clear favorite for this one.

2) Nadal hasn't dropped a set as well. True, this is Fed's best surface but that's what we all thought about Wimbledon and AO and looked what happened there.

3) True. If Nadal wins, he's got 9 and will be closer to Fed's 16. If Fed's wins, the gap goes back to 9, and it'll be tougher for Nadal to catch up, especially since Fed is still winning titles here and there and is still an active player.

4) Nadal didn't have a slam final at the AO before he took Fed in 5. So what? That's why you actually play matches. That's how Fed lost Wimbly 2008 despite being the clear favorite.

5) I don't think he's the GOAT now. Nadal isn't, either. Neither is Sampras, Laver, Borg, etc.

6) Indeed there is.
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Breakpoint refutes all this, as well as many *******s.
 
tennisaddict said:
Federer is 29 and Nadal is 24. It is a generation gap in terms of tennis.

So talk after Nadal gets 16 slams, 5-7 consecutive slam finals of each major.
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Consecutive slam finals ISN'T important, just like the Semi-final streak. WINNING is however. Remember when Agassi won the AO 03 final? who was the other guy?
 
SLD76 said:
Let's see, 16 slams, career slam, nearly every record in the book, 29 and already talked of as 'declining'..


why exactly does Roger have pressure on him again?
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He has less pressure than before - he has achieved the career slam, broke all time slam records , etc., etc. He doesnt care if Nadal gets the career slam as well as much as his wanting to try hard and win one more time.

How many champions past 29 do you see make finals with such consistency ?

If Nadal gets to 16 slams then we can have a discussion.
 
Turning Pro said:
Facing the possibility of a career threatening and forever most talked about subject in tennis history, the tentatively titled, CAREER Slam domination of one of the greatest if not THE greatest rivalries of all time. Already 2-6 in gs, and 2-5 in GS finals, across all surfaces no less, Federer has his legacy at stake, no matter what happens, Nadal is and will probably always will be a taint on Fed's resume.

1. Federer is EXPECTED to WIN. His favourite surface (you know the one where he has won 48 matches out of 49? One of the FASTEST surface's on the tour (Fed's strength) v the player who CAN'T win on fast surfaces (least preferred).
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That's curious. Betting sites are favouring Rafa.

Betfair has Rafa as the first fave paying 2.12 whereas Fed is the second with a payoff of only 2.38.

Bet365 also has Rafa as the first fave paying 2.00 whereas Fed is the second with 2.10.
 
Betting sites are notoriously skewed. REAL tennis fans know Federer SHOULD beat Nadal, after all the evidence is clear from what i posted. A lot of fed fans like to point this out, so hey, let's go with the flow
 
Mother Marjorie must cook on this....

First, nothing which happends at the 2010 US Open will affect Roger Federer's standing in the sport. He cemented his legacy when he surpassed Pete Sampras in total GS singles titles the same year he won a rare career slam in the sport.

Secondly, if there is pressure on anyone during the 2010 US Open, its Rafael Nadal, because its the GS slam tournament that he's never won. Federer has won it already five times, and winning or losing it won't affect the brilliant records he's already set.

Sunshine on Her Shoulders,

Mother Marjorie
 
Turning Pro said:
Betting sites are notoriously skewed. REAL tennis fans know Federer SHOULD beat Nadal, after all the evidence is clear from what i posted. A lot of fed fans like to point this out, so hey, let's go with the flow
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Right, I better listen to some troll on the Internet who thinks Fed is the fave rather than the betting odds made by experts who have examined the market to evaluate who people think is the fave.

To me Rafa is the favourite to win the US Open too, just like most people think. That's why he's listed as the fave.
 
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Indisputable pile of crap is what it is.

Just noticed point 5 - " Fed will NEVER be GOAT after this match, if he loses."

So if Fed loses in the SF he's a GOAT contender but if he loses in the final, he can't be? That's a logical FAIL.
 
abraxas21 said:
Indisputable pile of crap is what it is.

Just noticed point 5 - " Fed will NEVER be GOAT after this match, if he loses."

So if Fed loses in the SF he's a GOAT contender but if he loses in the final, he can't be? That's a logical FAIL.
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No, it just makes it conveniently worser for him, his hole is getting deeper. If he lost in the semi-finals, he STILL hasd 2-5 Gs final record against the man who he's chasing history with, and who is chasing him. Once the numbers add up, Fed's legacy is in worser condition, i.e Nadal getting closer to his Gs tally, destroying his H2h and other things i.e(getting owned in the biggest rivalry of all time). That's just the way it is, if it was a different opponent, losing would still have an effect on his legacy, but Nadal is DIRECTLY competing against him and grounding down his records as we speak. mmmk?
 
If Nadal doesn't beat Federer's slam count it will forever be a taint on his career and claim to GOAT. I mean the obvious question is, despite having a superior H2H over Federer why was he never able to match the slam count. Therefore he can never be truly GOAT IF he does not at least match the slam count.
 
What pressure? Federer has broken almost every single significant record. If anything, Nadal is the one that has to deal with the most pressure. Most of the pundits picked Nadal to win this one, this is his first USO final and this is his chance to complete the career slam.
 
bethany said:
If Nadal doesn't beat Federer's slam count it will forever be a taint on his career and claim to GOAT.
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Nadal will never be owned by a rival of his of Federer's caliber. Murray, Djoker ain't getting to within a few slams of Nadal's tally. And most unlikely some superstar contender who will be relevant in a few years time. Did Sampras get owned on every surface by Agassi, or even vice versa? The most one sider GOAT rivalry EVER. :)
 
Turning Pro said:
Nadal will never be owned by a rival of his of Federer's caliber. Murray, Djoker ain't getting to within a few slams of Nadal's tally. And most unlikely some superstat contender who will be relevant in a few years time. Did Sampras get owned on every surface by Agassi?
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Yeah but if he cannot match the slam count means he will have been owned by the rest of the much lower calibre field. What other possible reason could there be?
 
@aphex.

Yes, Nadal is far from Done and Federer is apparantly......Or has Fed yet to drop a set? Past his prime....having won the first hard court slam of the year, AO convincingly and Nadal hasn't done anything on HC's in 2 years.....1 winner.
 
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@Bethany.....shhhhh....dont you know...h2h agaisnt the best is better than being less effective agaisnt the rest of the field.
 
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Turning Pro said:
@aphex.

Yes, Nadal is far from Done and Federer is apparantly......Or has Fed yet to drop a set? Past his prime....having won the first hard court slam of the year, AO convincingly and Nadal hasn't done anything on HC's in 2 years.....1 winner.
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let me ask you this: would federer of '04-'07 win or lose against federer of '10?
case closed.
 
Nadal winning the USO will add to his grandslam tally and get the coveted career slam for him.

However it will be always "tainted" for the cakewalk draw and getting it only by beating an "aged" Federer.

Nadal has half the grandslams Federer has - get some perspective from there.
 
OP is a troll.

I'm done with wasting time here or else it will lead to being frustrated... I suggest anyone capable of rational thought to do the same.
 
lol bitter Hewitt fan angry because Hewitt was owning Federer in the earlier part of his career but since then Federer has caught up and had like a 14? match winning streak against him.
 
Nadal fans are taking some weird drugs if they think his 9th slam win would make him GOAT.

Throughout all of tennis history there are examples of players who didn't win when they were sure-winners and those who won when there was apparently little chance of them winning... Agassi was that player on both sides of the fence a number of times. It happened to Lendl, Edberg, Courier, Becker, Gonzales, Sampras, Stich, Krajicek, Del Potro etc etc...

I.e. You. have. to. actually. win. them. for them to count. Until a player actually wins *current highest total* slams they can never be considered the GOAT. That is the bare minimum requirement before you start considering any other factors like H2Hs etc.

At this stage Lendl, Agassi, Federer, Connors, Borg, Sampras all rate higher than Nadal in terms of GOATness. There is simply no debating it unless you have a mental impairment and propensity to argue black is white like a drunk teenager.
 
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Wow, you guys are taking this way too seriously. The pro's are making millions each year and not even worried about who's GOAT or whatever.
I think Nadal can definitely take the title, but Fed is really doing well too. Both haven't dropped sets so far...we'll see what happens tomorrow in Fed vs Djoker match.

Nadal x Federer final FTW! The greatest thing about this match is that we'll see a new milestone for both players. So as a fan it's a win-win situation :)

Long live the game of tennis!!!
 
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